Dual QB system for 2025?

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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Realistically, i don't think CJH has a solid grasp on what he is doing next season.
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The coach who just took us to our second 10 win season in 3 years and playoffs doesnt have solid grasp of what he is doing next season

But

A random fan who watched some Youtube videos had ideas !

Now I have lived to see it all 😀😀
 
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HooahVol said:
I referenced this a few weeks ago using Leak and Tebow as the example (and embarrassingly stated Spurs was the coach when it was Meyer). To me that is the best example of the 2 qb working. Leak making the passing plays, Tebow getting yards with his legs. Granted, one of those guys was a Heisman winner so it took some serious talent to make it work. I could see us implementing a Wildcat option and just hike it directly to one of our tailbacks which would kind of accomplish the same thing without tipping our hat to the defense we are running.
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Leak and Tebow wasn't equally shared. Tebow would come in on short yardage situations. Leak played most of the time
 
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Merklinger early enrolled at Tennessee ahead of Citrus Bowl practices in December 2023 before going through 2024 spring practice.
 
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volmandu said:
The coach who just took us to our second 10 win season in 3 years and playoffs doesnt have solid grasp of what he is doing next season

But

A random fan who watched some Youtube videos had ideas !

Now I have lived to see it all 😀😀
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Yes. I should stick to getting my information about Tennessee football from the mouth breathers from the trailer parks of Vonore on Volnation.

You do understand that two weeks ago the coach thought he was walking into next season with a 2nd year starter who was considered by most the top QB recruit of his cycle. Now he's got this mess. His #1 guy is likely someone who couldn't get a scholarship offer from anyone and ended up at App St.. His #2 guy has never started a game in college football and looked suspect in the Orange and white game. and then there's guy #3. So no, CJH probably has no idea what he's going to do going into next season.

Maybe you would sound smarter if you used more emoji's.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
I was watching some youtube videos of our current QB situation. I started wondering about what the QB room really looks like going into the fall and kinda started thinking about how we don't really have a strong option coming into the season. With Aguilar only having fall practice and what he can do this summer to prepare, he's going to have a limited playbook. With Merk having only 1 year under his belt and no starts, he has a limited playbook. Realistically, i don't think CJH has a solid grasp on what he is doing next season. He's likely going to just let some things reveal themselves in fall practice. No huge leap in logic there. But I see him starting Aguilar and bringing Merk in for significant play time. I could see this turning into some Steve Spurrier 2 QB system for the season with guys constantly rotating. I hate the concept but when you're trying to make chicken salad out of chicken $hit, you do what you've gotta do.
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No.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Only because Tim Tebow could barely throw a light switch accurately much less a football so he had to use Leak to throw.

We're not in that position.
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Most people don't think of Tebow & Leak when we talk about Spurrier's 2-QB system. They think about Doug Johnson, Danny Wuerffel, Jesse Palmer, Rex Grossman. Those years.

Tebow & Leak was really a one-QB system (Leak), with Tebow coming in from time to time almost as a Wildcat.

The true 2-QBs were those earlier guys.

IndianaVol said:
As others have stated, only go to 2 QB system because you don't have 1 QB that can be a run threat as well as a passing threat.
Going to a 2 QB system, you tell the opposing defense "Hey, this is a run play so stuff the line" or "Hey, this is a pass play so drop back in coverage".
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Agree with some of what you said, but I think this part isn't always true.

Spurrier did a lot of things with his 2-QB formula. One was, he played the hot hand; one guy might be up, the other having a down day. Another thing was communication--back in that day, a coach often ran the play call in with a sub. Spurrier used his QBs as the sub. Say he had Jesse Palmer in for part of a series; he'd be standing there with his arm on Grossman's shoulder pads the entire time, talking to him blue blazes. And then he'd send Grossman in, with all that information about how to exploit the defense, and Palmer would come out. Spurrier would grab Palmer's shoulder pad, and off they'd go for another rapid-fire live action coaching session.

Point is, he had a lot of reasons for alternating QBs in a game.

Now, I don't know if almost every other team that has ever used a 2-QB system did it entirely to have a "runner" and a "passer". I haven't surveyed college football. You could be right that it's the most common reason. But it certainly isn't the only one.

I know this: if Heupel sticks with 1-QB, I'm with Heupel. If he plays with 2-QB rotation, I'm with Heupel. Either way, I'm with Heupel. He's our coach.

Go Vols!
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Doubtful. Heupel likes tempo.

He likes to control defensive subs by leaving guys on the field so the D can't sub a 3rd down package or whatever.

It's anti-Heupel to sub like that.
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Not if both QBs are on the field the same time. H*ll, we could throw Gmac in the mix too and really confuse the defense.
 
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I think a lot people are overreacting and need to chill and let the coaches do their jobs that they’re paid to do. This upcoming season may not be the best season due to this QB debacle or Aguilar or Merk could ball out, but I guarantee that it won’t be the worse season we have had… GBO!!!
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
I was watching some youtube videos of our current QB situation. I started wondering about what the QB room really looks like going into the fall and kinda started thinking about how we don't really have a strong option coming into the season. With Aguilar only having fall practice and what he can do this summer to prepare, he's going to have a limited playbook. With Merk having only 1 year under his belt and no starts, he has a limited playbook. Realistically, i don't think CJH has a solid grasp on what he is doing next season. He's likely going to just let some things reveal themselves in fall practice. No huge leap in logic there. But I see him starting Aguilar and bringing Merk in for significant play time. I could see this turning into some Steve Spurrier 2 QB system for the season with guys constantly rotating. I hate the concept but when you're trying to make chicken salad out of chicken $hit, you do what you've gotta do.
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We had chicken $hit last year and stuck it out with 1 QB. I’d imagine we will this year to. Time for people to stop acting like Nico was awesome and now our offense is doomed. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see better QB play thus year, regardless of who starts. You’ll find out in a few months.
 
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If we ended up getting Gaston back, then I could see a QB rotation with Gaston running the speed offense and Merc coming in with a somewhat slower pace.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Most people don't think of Tebow & Leak when we talk about Spurrier's 2-QB system. They think about Doug Johnson, Danny Wuerffel, Jesse Palmer, Rex Grossman. Those years.

Tebow & Leak was really a one-QB system (Leak), with Tebow coming in from time to time almost as a Wildcat.

The true 2-QBs were those earlier guys.



Agree with some of what you said, but I think this part isn't always true.

Spurrier did a lot of things with his 2-QB formula. One was, he played the hot hand; one guy might be up, the other having a down day. Another thing was communication--back in that day, a coach often ran the play call in with a sub. Spurrier used his QBs as the sub. Say he had Jesse Palmer in for part of a series; he'd be standing there with his arm on Grossman's shoulder pads the entire time, talking to him blue blazes. And then he'd send Grossman in, with all that information about how to exploit the defense, and Palmer would come out. Spurrier would grab Palmer's shoulder pad, and off they'd go for another rapid-fire live action coaching session.

Point is, he had a lot of reasons for alternating QBs in a game.

Now, I don't know if almost every other team that has ever used a 2-QB system did it entirely to have a "runner" and a "passer". I haven't surveyed college football. You could be right that it's the most common reason. But it certainly isn't the only one.

I know this: if Heupel sticks with 1-QB, I'm with Heupel. If he plays with 2-QB rotation, I'm with Heupel. Either way, I'm with Heupel. He's our coach.

Go V
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Bobby Bowden did it at Florida State 40 years ago with Wally Woodham and Jimmy Jordan. Bowden called the duo "The Field General and The Rifle. Both were backups in the NFL. The University of Washington used both Mark Brunell and can't remember the other guy's name. Billy Joe something if I'm accurately recalling it
 
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If the new portal has taught me anything it’s that college football offensive schemes are not hard to learn, no matter who the coach is or system
 
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