Drew Richmond

[zydane47]

It makes my boss a bad boss if he allows it to happen and does nothing. If richmond cant block effectively and has penalties all the time, bench him and put in a kid that doesnt get penalties and cant block. You dont get a good block either way but at least you dont get the penalties.

So what you're telling me is that you'd rather the coach just give up on the kid right away? It's apparent we didn't have enough OLinemen to go around this year, so the coaches made due with what they had. They gave the kid a chance, just like maybe your boss is giving you a chance. Doesn't make the coaches bad or your boss bad, says more about Richmond than it does the coaches.

After a few months it is seen that the chance given was wasted, is what it is, time to move on. So Richmond will be shown the door because he wasted his chance.

 

[Gandalf]

Richmond's been the scapegoat for a lot of our problems. I wonder who y'all will use when he's gone.

I think its less of a scapegoat and more of simply one example among a few. All it takes is for one player to be loafing around and boom the pressure comes and JG is flat on his back yet again. That happened a LOT this season and no its not only Richmond at fault in the slightest (I wish it were). But lets not act like his poor play didnt contribute to a lot of busted plays on our side. Same as the defense that couldnt seem to wrap up to save their lives sometimes.

 

[Freak]

I thought I'd look up a few his pff grades.

< 50 = Backup
50-59 = Below average starter
60-69 = Average starter
70-79 = Above average starter
80-89 = Very good
90-99 = Elite

Drew Richmond
Vandy - 67.2
Missouri - 61.8
Kentucky 50.0
Charlotte 38.0
S. Carolina 55.3
Alabama 68.4
Auburn 61.1
Georgia 60.6
Florida 58.9

 

[tbones0711]

Glad to see your positive feedback to players at Tennessee. Im sure they are glad you are a fan.

In an earlier post you said a bunch of players quit. I was curious to know who you think quit. Care to name a few?

Some players have to start before they get to be quitters. In some games UT came out well intentioned, looking to be motivated, then suddenly when a couple of things go against them the entire team just goes slack. The USCe game which we were in until the last offensive series was the turning point,IMO. UT played their hearts out similar to the Gators game in 2015 where Grier threw the TD pass to put them ahead late. In both cases offensive play-calling and inability to execute plays cost UT THE game. Had UT beat USCe this year, as they should have, it would have meant a lot as far as team confidence and morale goes. It's hard to get up just to be deflated again and again. It's like feeling, "what's the use?"
UT needs a fast QB who can get to the edge and improvise and thus give this team time to build up line strength. I don't think JG is fast enough to be a threat as a running QB. UT also needs an OC who is gonna stick around awhile and have some continuity. With a good play-caller maybe UT could try for Kelly Bryant.

 

[Gandalf]

I thought I'd look up a few his pff grades.



Drew Richmond
Vandy - 67.2
Missouri - 61.8
Kentucky 50.0
Charlotte 38.0
S. Carolina 55.3
Alabama 68.4
Auburn 61.1
Georgia 60.6
Florida 58.9

Dang, that is a neat database service (PFF). Thanks for pointing that one out, Freak!

 

[cncchris33]

I’m seeing so many negative comments about Drew Richmond. Does he get any kudos for being moved to an unfamiliar position on the Oline but showing sparks of improvement during his transition?? I mean how many OC and Oline coaches has the kid had... his development has been altered and delayed because of the instability of the stafff..... I’m looking at this from another angle only because it’s so many negative bandwagon comments about the kid and no balance, in his defense. Am I wrong??!!

The kid was overrated coming out of HS. Think Scotty Hopson or Robert Hubbs in basketball. People see 5 *s next to the name and assume greatness awaits. OL are harder to project than most any other position, so Richmond’s size and athleticism was supposed to carry him to stardom. IMO, he never got strong enough to dominate at Tackle. He was also not developed well by his college OL coaches. This was probably his best season to date, and even it wasn’t great, but having decent coaching was enough to get him there in one season. There are times I question his drive and discipline, too. You can’t make a kid want it.

Richmond was probably a top 250 kid coming out, but he was never the borderline 5* talent the majority of our fans believed him to be, and I don’t know if he put in the effort to become better than he was. He sure didn’t receive the coaching for three seasons he needed to get better.

 

[JazzMaster001]

You're actually right to some degree. Richmond takes more heat than he should, I think probably because the expectations were so high for him. I remember at least one game this year where he was graded as one of our best lineman (Alabama game maybe?). Granted, that's not saying much.

Yep, we actually saw flashes of the real deal this year finally. I for one would like to see him back next year to see if he can finally put it all together consistently.

 

[RollerVol]

well, Richmond was a 5 star recruited by Butch and it was supposed to be a steal from Ole Miss...huge expectations mixed with an incompetent staff made for some bad feelings concerning Richmond...people's expectations can be hard to achieve...

GO VOLS...RECRUIT LIKE HECK!

 

[SmokeyLives]

I thought I'd look up a few his pff grades.



Drew Richmond
Vandy - 67.2
Missouri - 61.8
Kentucky 50.0
Charlotte 38.0
S. Carolina 55.3
Alabama 68.4
Auburn 61.1
Georgia 60.6
Florida 58.9

He ain’t tryin’ !!! Aight?

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Is that what he thinks or is that your interpretation of however he looks?

I had a family member that played at MUS with Drew. Drew never wowed with the work ethic in HS but he got by on sheer size and athletic ability playing against 195 lb Memphis private high school DEs. In hindsight, Drew made a huge mistake committing to a coach that was never going to push him due to his star status.....

 

[05_never_again]

I thought I'd look up a few his pff grades.



Drew Richmond
Vandy - 67.2
Missouri - 61.8
Kentucky 50.0
Charlotte 38.0
S. Carolina 55.3
Alabama 68.4
Auburn 61.1
Georgia 60.6
Florida 58.9

Thanks for that. That's actually quite a bit better than I expected he'd score. His average score in those games is a 57.9, which says he's a below average but close to average starter. I honestly figured there'd be a ton of scores below a 50, but he only had the one.

 

[dduncan4163]

I thought I'd look up a few his pff grades.



Drew Richmond
Vandy - 67.2
Missouri - 61.8
Kentucky 50.0
Charlotte 38.0
S. Carolina 55.3
Alabama 68.4
Auburn 61.1
Georgia 60.6
Florida 58.9

That shows a complete lack of effort on Drew's part. What's the point of him staying around? Football is obviously not his bag.

 

[Russdaddy2027]

I have no hard feelings toward the young man, I think he was recruited into an atmosphere that he was not qualified for and it showed. He could have excelled in a lower tier conference.

 

[Russdaddy2027]

He came in as a 5 star and there is something that should mean. Instead he lines up wrong and gets beat on every play with what looks like half effort at best. Its been 4 years i think he would have shown some promise regardless of where on the line he was placed.

I think those 4th & 5th stars may have been lobbied for by Lyle.

 

[livefaith]

I don't know what the problem is. Don't like seeing young men trashed for lack of ability. I'm just not sure that's what's going on here. If you've DVR'd any games, watch 10 minutes only keeping an eye on him. It looks much more like attitude than ability. He doesn't look like he tries most of the time.

Here's what is sad. Our staff has nobody that can apparently do a better job! CJP said directly post Vandy that at alot of positions we literally don't have competition. This is probably one of them.

 

[wasteroftimelord]

I rarely post on here unless it’s about events because I’m busy, but I got quick snapshot of Drew Richmond and the offensive line last Saturday from a buddy sitting behind the bench. He told me that Drew was trying to get the line fired up to play and appeared to give his all even when his words fell on deaf ears. Some of our guys like Locklear would joke on the sideline not paying attention to the game until a coach walked by, and other players on the team weren’t fired up to be there at all. I can’t vouch for Drew’s attitude all season, but I’m in agreement that he’s had a difficult time being utility guy on our line and a lineman can only be as good as the other 5 (including TE) and our guys have to want to play. My buddy also said Will Ignot threw a chair in disgust at the attitudes on the sideline and called people out.

My friend also said that he got fed up with them too, and Vandy was pumping music and the D dancing on the sideline going into the fourth quarter. He started yelling “you see that! They’re dancing on you! You’re letting that happen. Only you can stop it. It’s a party at your expense” and one player pointed at him in agreement because they could hear him over the coach. We all know some of those guys gave their all each Saturday this season and others were just present wasting a scholarship on our team. We are all also victims of BVS (Battered Vol Syndrome). I just hope that the guys with the fire to Carry a Fight for 60 minutes for an entire season are the ones on the field next fall.

 

[ProudVOLfan]

I rarely post on here unless it’s about events because I’m busy, but I got quick snapshot of Drew Richmond and the offensive line last Saturday from a buddy sitting behind the bench. He told me that Drew was trying to get the line fired up to play and appeared to give his all even when his words fell on deaf ears. Some of our guys like Locklear would joke on the sideline not paying attention to the game until a coach walked by, and other players on the team weren’t fired up to be there at all. I can’t vouch for Drew’s attitude all season, but I’m in agreement that he’s had a difficult time being utility guy on our line and a lineman can only be as good as the other 5 (including TE) and our guys have to want to play. My buddy also said Will Ignot threw a chair in disgust at the attitudes on the sideline and called people out.

My friend also said that he got fed up with them too, and Vandy was pumping music and the D dancing on the sideline going into the fourth quarter. He started yelling “you see that! They’re dancing on you! You’re letting that happen. Only you can stop it. It’s a party at your expense” and one player pointed at him in agreement because they could hear him over the coach. We all know some of those guys gave their all each Saturday this season and others were just present wasting a scholarship on our team. We are all also victims of BVS (Battered Vol Syndrome). I just hope that the guys with the fire to Carry a Fight for 60 minutes for an entire season are the ones on the field next fall.

In that case give me a team full of Ignots and Banks.. Tired of the mediocre effort given on the field. IDC if you arent the most talented but you should damn well give it all you have. Jumper was far from the most talented on the team but he gave it all he had and earned my respect in the process. I will take a whole team of Banks and Ignots instead of highly talented with no fire in them.. JMO tho

 

[TN_Transplant]

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[ShoalCreekVol]

I’m seeing so many negative comments about Drew Richmond. Does he get any kudos for being moved to an unfamiliar position on the Oline but showing sparks of improvement during his transition?? I mean how many OC and Oline coaches has the kid had... his development has been altered and delayed because of the instability of the stafff..... I’m looking at this from another angle only because it’s so many negative bandwagon comments about the kid and no balance, in his defense. Am I wrong??!!

LOL "Sparks of Improvement". I'm glad Butch and/or Dooley aren't still here. That would be one embarrassing marketing campaign.

Today our guys showed great resiliency and improvement sparks.

 

[ShoalCreekVol]

I thought I'd look up a few his pff grades.



Drew Richmond
Vandy - 67.2
Missouri - 61.8
Kentucky 50.0
Charlotte 38.0
S. Carolina 55.3
Alabama 68.4
Auburn 61.1
Georgia 60.6
Florida 58.9

Wow, that is awful. And to think his position coach may get a promotion and raise. Look, I'm glad Richmond loved being a Vol. But his effort on the field was often very weak, and he never really improved in between games. There is no way to sugarcoat it.

 

[martyvols]

He is probably talented, at least he has shown flashes of it, but he seems really lazy most of the time based on a lack of effort. I wish him well but he isn't a 5* talent.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

I always got the impression he would take many games off due to laziness or no desire to get better.

Richmond was overrated from the start and had no business starting.

But that’s what happens when your depth is awful.

 

[OrangeMagic]

Yeah, if i badmouth him personally and develop a personal hatred for him, would it help anything or make you feel better?

Of course it would, misery loves company (good Rossington-Collins song)

 

[volfannbama]

So what you're telling me is that you'd rather the coach just give up on the kid right away? It's apparent we didn't have enough OLinemen to go around this year, so the coaches made due with what they had. They gave the kid a chance, just like maybe your boss is giving you a chance. Doesn't make the coaches bad or your boss bad, says more about Richmond than it does the coaches.

After a few months it is seen that the chance given was wasted, is what it is, time to move on. So Richmond will be shown the door because he wasted his chance.

He gets a chance to earn his spot back in practice. Seems thats how sports works.

 

[OnlyGodForgives]

All that PT he logged this year? An investment by the staff in his future production. They will do everything they can to keep him around. If he leaves it's because he is tired of football.