Doug Matthews Roasting the AD hiring process

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butchna said:
Pretty much. Also weary of unverified tales of backstabbings. :boredom: Go bleed somewhere else and let the man work.
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Agree if all this buzz surrounding this situation continues we'll have nothing but division. Our conference rivals love this kind of stuff. Tennessee One.
 
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Bms4880 said:
Doug Mathews is a Vandy grad, and his opinion is therefore suspect. Forty years isn't quite long enough to get rid of the Vandy stink.
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DM is all UT. He spent most of his coaching life at UT and still goes back to UT. There are ZERO reports now or in the past of DM ever being around a Vandy practice.
 
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Doug Matthews has a pretty nice career that doesn't have anything to do with his radio show. I think he does it for fun and love of UT football.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Currie may end up being the best AD in America but when you have a dysfunctional and backstabbing administration and boosters, you're going to have a hard time hiring the best people. This isn't even a rumor anymore, it's widespread knowledge that UT athletics is a sideshow.

If Haslam truly was the one and only person that chose Currie, why the hell did we wait to fill that void so long? Just for appearances to have Davenport rubber stamp it? That's not only duplicitous, it's also just damn incompetent. There's no way we ever get a keep a coach worth a damn with leadership like that.
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And it doesn't take much looking to see we are mediocre of worse in every sport right now. But as Basilio and gang said after the presser the other day, we have to be all in on Butch and Rick making it now because look who is hiring their replacements if they don't!
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
Pretty out of character for Doug to do like he did this morning but I totally understand why he's so po'd. He usually does his best to put a positive spin on whatever is going on on the Hill. Said Davenport wouldn't have been hired to her position if she would have had to meet the same qualifications as she mandated on the AD hire.
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The admin should have hired a chancellor with a strong Tennessee pedigree, always been against hiring outsiders for admin positions. But it is what it is.
 
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coffeevol said:
Total meltdown on the administration. Basically....led fulmer and blackburn on, cut Anderson out of having a say because he supported Fulmer. Never had a say in things at the end....Big Jim made decision and had contract worked out before Davenport hit the ground in Manhattan. Says it was done dirty with the leading on of other candidates
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I have no problem whatsoever (nor should anyone else) if it's true Anderson was cut out for supporting someone who had no qualifications whatsoever to be AD ANYWHERE.
 
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tennrich1 said:
This place is starting to sound like a gossip column. No one knows the truth and all these hurt feelings are so juvenile it's ridiculous. John Currie is a professional. Amateurs like us should leave our agenda driven opinions at home and tend to the things we know about like gardening, fishing, hunting etc....I've said before I have family members who were legendary coaches in the SEC and most would know immediately who they are but I've NEVER heard this type of stuff from any of them. NEVER...they are professionals and hurt feelings and the like just never enter the pic. I like Doug Matthews personally but his new career is dependant on opinions. Take them with a grain of salt...JMO of course...
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Two of my tomato plants have white mold. I've learned it's caused by high humidity. I live in Southwest Florida, probably why.

Lol, que "WTF does that have to do with this thread?"
 
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smokey0625 said:
We will never be back as long as haslam has a say. He's corrupt and a terrible leader.

Or at least he makes it harder to have a good program. Look at the browns.

I'm not referencing Currie as a bad hire. I just hate haslam has power. He obviously sucks at leadership.
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Builds a billion dollar company yet has no leadership skills? Gotcha!
 
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BigBadVol said:
Builds a billion dollar company yet has no leadership skills? Gotcha!
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I think Sr. built the company although Jr. is definitely credited with being a good businessperson by everyone I've ever heard discuss it.

There will be a new governor in 21 months. Big Jim is 86. Yes, that family will still have money and influence but it will be a fraction of what it is now. Davenport and Currie will have to produce some results pretty quickly and they're going to have to do it with a lot of people being turned off because of this story.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
I'm very aware of how it was played out but you know what? It is what it is. The hire is done made regardless of how the boosters and Davenport handled it. Also, I've seen plenty of people criticizing Currie when he hasn't even been on the job for a week yet. But if Blackburn were hired, he'd be the next coming of Jesus.
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That last line might be right, but not in the way you stated it. The moment Blackburn did not fire someone or hire who they thought should be the next coach, the same critical ding a lings would be looking to crucify him.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Doug Matthews has a pretty nice career that doesn't have anything to do with his radio show. I think he does it for fun and love of UT football.
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Doug usually does a good informative show from perspective of a true UT lover who has important sources of info due to his past coaching connections there. In todays show he was swayed by emotions and personal friendship w Fulmer, and lost some objectivity. If his biggest gripe w Currie is his advocacy for firing CPF, then IMO thats a plus for Currie, a sign he knows when it's time to let a coach go for the good of the program.
 
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KBVol said:
Pretty sure Mathews said he was fully on board for Currie.
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Difference in being "on board" and voting for. Could've done both but Matthews didn't specify...not sure how he would know.
 
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LTVol said:
Doug usually does a good informative show from perspective of a true UT lover who has important sources of info due to his past coaching connections there. In todays show he was swayed by emotions and personal friendship w Fulmer, and lost some objectivity. If his biggest gripe w Currie is his advocacy for firing CPF, then IMO thats a plus for Currie, a sign he knows when it's time to let a coach go for the good of the program.
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^ this
 
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coffeevol said:
Total meltdown on the administration. Basically....led fulmer and blackburn on, cut Anderson out of having a say because he supported Fulmer. Never had a say in things at the end....Big Jim made decision and had contract worked out before Davenport hit the ground in Manhattan. Says it was done dirty with the leading on of other candidates
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especially given the early reports that it was Blackburn and then 247 reporting that Fulmer was going to be the next AD.

It's done now but I am still concerned. Hamilton really set TN back with some very poor choices. Hopefully, Currie has learned from Hamilton's mistakes and does not repeat them here at TN.

GO VOLS!!!
 
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midtnvol2 said:
DM is all UT. He spent most of his coaching life at UT and still goes back to UT. There are ZERO reports now or in the past of DM ever being around a Vandy practice.
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Doug went back to coaching at Vandy and has never been ashamed of being a Vandy guy. The reason he is not closely tied to them is because DiNardo fired him and then Vandy sort of barred him from anything to do with their FB program. It does not bother me that Doug is a Vandy guy and does not disqualify him and a big supporter of the Vols.
 
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It has always amazed me how so many think that the money guys can do no wrong. Look at the past 15 years and tell me that the money guys had nothing to do with the decisions made on the hill. Everything form football to ping pong has slowly gone dowm the tubes. Football has shown signs of life since Butch arrived but not enough to appease the masses and the basketball program has shown flashes but nothing special and yet the Haslams and their ilk have only done the good stuff.....what good stuff. I have been a vol fan since Dicky was coach and Mears was riding a unicycle, things have changed. Call it power struggles call it egos call it what ever the hell you want but the climate of college sports is changing and we seem to get in our own way at every turn. Fulmer was a great coach, got lazy got canned. Pearl was a showman got stupid got fired. The greatest of all got sick.....enough said. There is a new sheriff in town and she seems to be going to do it the right way or her way no matter what the masses think. The accustions by the ladies against the vols, the whole culture of athletics not only in Knoxville but around the country has made the ways of the past just that, the ways of the past. As much as it is a great place for sports it is still above all a Tennessee State run University and will remain so as long as it is open and Education is still why it is there and as much as we all want football to be the main reason the powers that be are determined to make education number one and athletics number two. The days of a basket weaving class are behind us and I think the days of athletic money men calling the shots may be a thing of the past as well. Sports has always been a big part of UT, before pro football we had the vols. Before every game being on the TV we listened to John Ward while riding around on the back rodes and imagining we were there and hanging on his every word. Times are changing for better or worse they are changing. This may be the greatest AD hire of all time, may be the worst but no matter what I am a VOL and I went through the good and the bad and yes I cheered as we won a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP and I have ranted when we didn't go for two because of the sheet..... I watched as we stomped Miami the same year we got tied by Army. Being a Vol means you have got to learn to roll with the flow and always expect the next drama. Nobody does it better or has done it longer then us. GO VOLS !!!!
 
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If you are hiring a contractor to build your dream home worth a couple million, do you :

1) hire a guy who this will be their first house to build
2) hire a guy who has built thousands of mobile homes
Or
3) hire a guy who has built several million+ dollar homes?

It's a no ****in brainer decision.

Hell Haslam has made a lot tougher decisions than this.
 
#98
#98
Never heard Doug so emotional and down on anything Tennessee. He hates this hire.
 
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Did Mathews say WHO led on Fulmer? If he didn't, or doesn't know, than he's just blathering. But, obviously the only people who could have doe so are boosters--since we didn't have a chancellor for months. In the end, it was Davenport's decision to make. She had a firm idea of the background/experience she was looking for, and neither Fulmer or Blackburn met her criteria. It was her decision to make, and she made it.
 
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