Doug Matthews Roasting the AD hiring process

[coffeevol]

Total meltdown on the administration. Basically....led fulmer and blackburn on, cut Anderson out of having a say because he supported Fulmer. Never had a say in things at the end....Big Jim made decision and had contract worked out before Davenport hit the ground in Manhattan. Says it was done dirty with the leading on of other candidates

 

[coffeevol]

Big Orange Sunday 104.5 the zone

 

[CoaxialOrange]

Total meltdown on the administration. Basically....led fulmer and blackburn on, cut Anderson out of having a say because he supported Fulmer. Never had a say in things at the end....Big Jim made decision and had contract worked out before Davenport hit the ground in Manhattan. Says it was done dirty with the leading on of other candidates

None of that would be surprising to me

 

[chargervol]

We were discussing yesterday if Davenport really had any say in it.
But, it always seems to resort back to one of our regulars.

The track record for the last 10 years hasn't been great, hoping Currie can turn that around.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

How exactly was Blackburn lead on when he was never even interviewed?

 

[chargervol]

How exactly was Blackburn lead on when he was never even interviewed?

Probably was told he would be and things were looking good for him.

 

[Power T-Rev]

Ok. John Currie is AD now. Not trying to be a smartass, but how does that matter now?

 

[smokey0625]

We were discussing yesterday if Davenport really had any say in it.
But, it always seems to resort back to one of our regulars.

The track record for the last 10 years hasn't been great, hoping Currie can turn that around.

We will never be back as long as haslam has a say. He's corrupt and a terrible leader.

Or at least he makes it harder to have a good program. Look at the browns.

I'm not referencing Currie as a bad hire. I just hate haslam has power. He obviously sucks at leadership.

 

[KBVol]

How exactly was Blackburn lead on when he was never even interviewed?

He was interviewed by the search firm as late as last week. He was never formally interviewed by Davenport......for that matter, looks like nobody was outside of Currie and perhaps the NC AD who withdrew his name last weekend.

He was also never given the opportunity to take his name out of the running due to being "still in the process" so late. He, along with Fulmer, was strung out until the very end for appearances to make it look like he was given an opportunity when in fact, he never had a chance to get the job.

 

[WeAreTheRealUT.]

Ok. John Currie is AD now. Not trying to be a smartass, but how does that matter now?

It matters because this is business as usual for UT. The underhand dealings is how we keep getting bad coaches and leaders.

 

[KBVol]

Ok. John Currie is AD now. Not trying to be a smartass, but how does that matter now?

It matters that everyone who supports the program and university know how dishonestly the process was conducted. It may never change, but it sure as hell won't if it's not made public so more people know about it. If it played out the way Doug Mathews just said it did, which there's no reason to believe it didn't, it was both dishonest and disgraceful.

And to be clear, not once did Doug say anything about who may or may not have been the better candidate. Only that the process was fixed from the get go and that the two most loyal, most tied in "candidates" to the program and university, were treated like trash.

 

[jmkvols]

In our society money talks, money has power.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Oh look, another thread about someone not liking the AD hire. Who gives a flying monkey's ass? It's over with! The fans and the media need to move on and let Currie do his job. Blackburn wasn't hired. He would have been great but Currie has a chance to be great too. No reason for constant whining over something that's already been done.

 

[wildorange]

Ok. John Currie is AD now. Not trying to be a smartass, but how does that matter now?

It matters because if it is half true it shows some in the BOT and administration really are holding the university back from what it could be. Too much smoke to not be a fire, they come across by media and many others in the know as not caring how or what anyone else thinks. Our administration needs a PR guy, there way of doing things is not how most do them. They seem to looking at things from their view no matter what road that has taken them before. They is no excuse for a school the bring in the money UT does to not have quality and top notch coaches and pay them accordingly. Time will tell, but sometimes perception isn't far off from reality, and when you don't respond and then you start hearing how this process went on it kind of stinks. But I can say, this administration owns this and they are on the clock. If things come together it will be forgotten but if it is not they are going to hear it in droves. GBO!!!!!

 

[WeAreTheRealUT.]

Just go back and read the details of the hiring of the last two fb coaches. It is a power struggle all the time with boosters vs. admin. if what I have read over the years is to be believed.

It has been told that a booster had dooley on a plane before Mike H. knew a thing about him.

Also, during the last hire the boosters were trying to hire certain big names and Hart went on his own and hired Butch. It is a constant power struggle.

 

[savannahfan]

All this BS and "news" of this kind needs to be back in politics. Getting tired of the he said, I think, I know more than anyone else comments on this subject. Things are what they are with this issue. They aren't gonna change. Whether we agree with the hire or not, some of us need to quit trying to be sour grape protesters like we see on the political front all over the country. They aren't doing anything that is helpful AND NEITHER IS THIS BS..

 

[KBVol]

Oh look, another thread about someone not liking the AD hire. Who gives a flying monkey's ass? It's over with! The fans and the media need to move on and let Currie do his job. Blackburn wasn't hired. He would have been great but Currie has a chance to be great too. No reason for constant whining over something that's already been done.

You're so emotional. That's not what the thread is about. It's not about Currie at all. It's about the how the process played out, and how it was anything but honest and transparent.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

You're so emotional. That's not what the thread is about. It's not about Currie at all. It's about the how the process played out, and how it was anything but honest and transparent.

I'm very aware of how it was played out but you know what? It is what it is. The hire is done made regardless of how the boosters and Davenport handled it. Also, I've seen plenty of people criticizing Currie when he hasn't even been on the job for a week yet. But if Blackburn were hired, he'd be the next coming of Jesus.

 

[savannahfan]

It matters that everyone who supports the program and university know how dishonestly the process was conducted. It may never change, but it sure as hell won't if it's not made public so more people know about it. If it played out the way Doug Mathews just said it did, which there's no reason to believe it didn't, it was both dishonest and disgraceful.

And to be clear, not once did Doug say anything about who may or may not have been the better candidate. Only that the process was fixed from the get go and that the two most loyal, most tied in "candidates" to the program and university, were treated like trash.

IF it played out like Doug Mathews just said it did.
Did it? How can we know. Has he in his article given any proof for what he says. Provable facts, that's what I would want to see when claims like this are made. Otherwise, as I stated in a post above ,it's BS.

 

[chargervol]

All this BS and "news" of this kind needs to be back in politics. Getting tired of the he said, I think, I know more than anyone else comments on this subject. Things are what they are with this issue. They aren't gonna change. Whether we agree with the hire or not, some of us need to quit trying to be sour grape protesters like we see on the political front all over the country. They aren't doing anything that is helpful AND NEITHER IS THIS BS..

Not being a smartazz but seriously, if you are that tired of reading it, stop opening threads on the subject.

I don't go to political sites for that very reason.

 

[terrypedigo]

Total meltdown on the administration. Basically....led fulmer and blackburn on, cut Anderson out of having a say because he supported Fulmer. Never had a say in things at the end....Big Jim made decision and had contract worked out before Davenport hit the ground in Manhattan. Says it was done dirty with the leading on of other candidates

This is why we are a second class program these day's, we are not elite anymore and don't see nothing changing anytime soon sad but true.:thud:

 

[hmhawk]

IF it played out like Doug Mathews just said it did.
Did it? How can we know. Has he in his article given any proof for what he says. Provable facts, that's what I would want to see when claims like this are made. Otherwise, as I stated in a post above ,it's BS.

No way this is true. Too many posters on here praising or condemning Davenport. VN is never wrong. Big Jim wasn't involved.

 

[KBVol]

I'm very aware of how it was played out but you know what? It is what it is. The hire is done made regardless of how the boosters and Davenport handled it. Also, I've seen plenty of people criticizing Currie when he hasn't even been on the job for a week yet. But if Blackburn were hired, he'd be the next coming of Jesus.

Blackburn was the much better hire here imo, so that's why so many would be so much happier had he been hired. No more difficult to understand than that. Then throw in Currie's reputation during his time here last time and his reputation at KState, and there you have it.

But let's not lose focus here. Doug Mathews' show/comments and this thread were/are not about John Currie.....they're about the disgraceful way the AD hiring process was conducted.

 

[Sudden Impact]

No way this is true. Too many posters on here praising or condemning Davenport. VN is never wrong. Big Jim wasn't involved.

Big Jim or Little Jim. One directly and one indirectly. The hire had to be approved by the Governor. Both were involved to a degree.

 

[savannahfan]

Not being a smartazz but seriously, if you are that tired of reading it, stop opening threads on the subject.

I don't go to political sites for that very reason.

I gave you a like..
The trouble is most everything we have seen posted over the last year or so has had this "bad old admin., bad old big money influence" theme. Hard to ignore. Finding thoughtful info and insight that isn't full of emotion that is "antie" is becoming harder and harder.

Sorry to not respond quicker. Had to stop and feed the dam- dog.

Bye the way, I am as full of BS at times as anyone on here!!

Anyway, thanks for calling me down. I will try to do better.