Dose of Reality

#26
#26
The thread isn't so bad.... I find it helpful when the morons point themselves out.
 
#28
#28
Dagreek1998 said:
Thats funny, it gave me a laugh.

I know you may not like my point and think I am an idiot. My biggest fear is that we spend two more years going through this only to find out that Dooley is in over his head. Then, we will be screwed.

The reason I fear this is becasue the O-Line is where every great team begins. This is almost two entire seasons in the program for 4 of the 5 starters. and most of the reserves. That means the same coaches, gameplans, and drills. After 23 games, our line is still horrible. We cannot establish the run against even the weak woodshed teams on our schedule. If they have this little improvement after 23 games, do you really think they will be great in another 12 games.

Go ahead and call it trolling and laugh at me, but deep inside, there is a little voice that is saying the same thing. :hi:
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I'm not sure what is wrong with the running game but I will say this. It is my opinion that the one year under Wylie in the S&C program set our OL/DL back because of not working on strength and working on conditioning more.

I could be wrong but I think under Coach Mac's S&C program they will get their strength wise however I'm more worried about their lack of nastiness. You can be as strong as an ox but if you don't want to pulverize the guy lining up across from you, it doesn't do much good.

However wanting Dooley fired after this year is moronic and that is a fact.
 
#29
#29
Just the basic facts. We have played 4 of the top 5 in rush D and did pretty good against three of them.

Ala. - #1 in rush D - gives up 51 a game - UT 92 yards
Cin. - #2 in rush D - gives up 80 a game - UT 126 yards
LSU - #3 in rush D - gives up 83.8 a game - UT 113 yards
UGA - #5 in rush D - gives up 87.3 a game - UT -5 yards
 
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#30
#30
EB14GoVols said:
Just the basic facts. We have played 4 of the top 5 in rush D and did pretty good against three of them.

Ala. - #1 in rush D - gives up 51 a game - UT 92 yards
Cin. - #2 in rush D - gives up 80 a game - UT 126 yards
LSU - #3 in rush D - gives up 83.8 a game - UT 113 yards
UGA - #5 in rush D - gives up 87.3 a game - UT -5 yards
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:question:
 
#31
#31
Dagreek1998 said:
Hey DOOL-HEADS, its that time again. IT'S REALITY TIME and I your host.

Topic: Offensive Line (Running Game vs Non-SEC Teams)

Excuse 1: We are young
Excuse 2: We dont have any talent
Excuse 3: We have no depth
Excuse 4: Injuries have hurt the passing game

Counterpoint:

Against Montana: 46 carries for 128 yards, 2.8 yds per carry. (Montana averaged 3.7 yards per carry)

Against Cincinnati: 35 carries for 126 yards, 3.6 yards per carry. (Cincinnati averaged 6.4 yards per carry)

(After Justin Hunter Injury)

Against Buffalo: 44 carries for 199 yards, 4.5 yards per carry (Buffalo averaged 5.3 yards per carry)

(After Tyler Bray Injury)

Against Middle Tennessee: 45 carries for 120 yards, 2.7 yards per carry (MTSU averaged 4.6 yards per carry)

Now, my point is simple. The most basic princple in football is the ability to run the football. Based on the factual information above, Tennessee has failed to do this against even non-SEC teams.

170 carries for 573 yards, 3.3 yards per carry

So DOOL-HEAD, is your arguement really going to be that we have

Excuse 1: We are younger
Excuse 2: We have less talent
Excuse 3: We have less depth
Excuse 4: Injuries have hurt the passing game

than these teams???? REALLY, I think we can agree that a change to the O-Line and RB coaches is needed. The head coach can stay, oh yeah, he coaches the running backs. :birgits_giggle:

Everyone says theat he needs time to compete against the SEC, it is year two and he has yet establish the run on non-SEC teams. If this is the case and a strong running game is critical to winning in the SEC, how many years is it until we can establish the run against SEC teams. Remember, these linemen will be gone in 2 seasons and it may take them that long to average 4 to 5 yards a carry against Sunbelt or Division II teams.

Oh and before someone brings up the 111 yards against LSU, heres a breakdown on the rushing totals against SEC teams

168 carries for 347 yards, 2.1 yards per carry

3.3 against non-SEC teams
2.1 against SEC teams

Spin that DOOL-HEADS, let me guess, its time to piss the bed to stay warm. Got to keep him for another year that way we dont hit rock bottom. :eek:lol:

WAKE UP. This is the offical kick-off of my new campaign

NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
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This is why I love VN! Where else can the "challenged" people express their opinion! Good job little buddy!:clapping:
 
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#33
#33
Dooley does of course deserve a 3rd year, as would any coach. But most of the points Dagreek makes are valid: when you can't dominate the MTSUs and the Buffalos of the football world with your running game, something is seriously wrong. When you show no improvement whatsover in you running game 23 games in, something is seriously wrong. Many posters here are in a state of complete denial. But the facts speak for themselves.
 
#34
#34
Dagreek1998 said:
Hey DOOL-HEADS, its that time again. IT'S REALITY TIME and I your host.

Topic: Offensive Line (Running Game vs Non-SEC Teams)

Excuse 1: We are young
Excuse 2: We dont have any talent
Excuse 3: We have no depth
Excuse 4: Injuries have hurt the passing game

Counterpoint:

Against Montana: 46 carries for 128 yards, 2.8 yds per carry. (Montana averaged 3.7 yards per carry)

Against Cincinnati: 35 carries for 126 yards, 3.6 yards per carry. (Cincinnati averaged 6.4 yards per carry)

(After Justin Hunter Injury)

Against Buffalo: 44 carries for 199 yards, 4.5 yards per carry (Buffalo averaged 5.3 yards per carry)

(After Tyler Bray Injury)

Against Middle Tennessee: 45 carries for 120 yards, 2.7 yards per carry (MTSU averaged 4.6 yards per carry)

Now, my point is simple. The most basic princple in football is the ability to run the football. Based on the factual information above, Tennessee has failed to do this against even non-SEC teams.

170 carries for 573 yards, 3.3 yards per carry

So DOOL-HEAD, is your arguement really going to be that we have

Excuse 1: We are younger
Excuse 2: We have less talent
Excuse 3: We have less depth
Excuse 4: Injuries have hurt the passing game

than these teams???? REALLY, I think we can agree that a change to the O-Line and RB coaches is needed. The head coach can stay, oh yeah, he coaches the running backs. :birgits_giggle:

Everyone says theat he needs time to compete against the SEC, it is year two and he has yet establish the run on non-SEC teams. If this is the case and a strong running game is critical to winning in the SEC, how many years is it until we can establish the run against SEC teams. Remember, these linemen will be gone in 2 seasons and it may take them that long to average 4 to 5 yards a carry against Sunbelt or Division II teams.

Oh and before someone brings up the 111 yards against LSU, heres a breakdown on the rushing totals against SEC teams

168 carries for 347 yards, 2.1 yards per carry

3.3 against non-SEC teams
2.1 against SEC teams

Spin that DOOL-HEADS, let me guess, its time to piss the bed to stay warm. Got to keep him for another year that way we dont hit rock bottom. :eek:lol:

WAKE UP. This is the offical kick-off of my new campaign

NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
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Actually, running the ball is way overrated. NFL has been getting away from it for years. Since we run pro-style, it's just all makes sense. BTW eat...t!
 
#35
#35
All this idiot is doing is showing his ignorance. The Vols would be a lot better off if people like you would go elsewhere. Your kind is the stereotype vol fan that gives us a bad name. Stupidity continues...
 
#37
#37
Whoa, so you mean our offensive line is not good at run blocking this year?!? I am glad you created this thread to open my eyes to that fact. We all were in the dark about the fact that our offensive line has not been good at run blocking this year. And to the rest of your point, yes an offensive line that is not run blocking well is ABSOLUTELY a good reason to fire the Head Coach in his second year.
 
#40
#40
There will be no coaching change at seasons end, thats kinda ridiculous. 2012 however; will be a defining moment in Dooley's tenure. As Coach Summitt would say, "Git 'er Done".
 
#41
#41
Dagreek1998 said:
Hey DOOL-HEADS, its that time again. IT'S REALITY TIME and I your host.

Topic: Offensive Line (Running Game vs Non-SEC Teams)

Excuse 1: We are young
Excuse 2: We dont have any talent
Excuse 3: We have no depth
Excuse 4: Injuries have hurt the passing game

Counterpoint:

Against Montana: 46 carries for 128 yards, 2.8 yds per carry. (Montana averaged 3.7 yards per carry)

Against Cincinnati: 35 carries for 126 yards, 3.6 yards per carry. (Cincinnati averaged 6.4 yards per carry)

(After Justin Hunter Injury)

Against Buffalo: 44 carries for 199 yards, 4.5 yards per carry (Buffalo averaged 5.3 yards per carry)

(After Tyler Bray Injury)

Against Middle Tennessee: 45 carries for 120 yards, 2.7 yards per carry (MTSU averaged 4.6 yards per carry)

Now, my point is simple. The most basic princple in football is the ability to run the football. Based on the factual information above, Tennessee has failed to do this against even non-SEC teams.

170 carries for 573 yards, 3.3 yards per carry

So DOOL-HEAD, is your arguement really going to be that we have

Excuse 1: We are younger
Excuse 2: We have less talent
Excuse 3: We have less depth
Excuse 4: Injuries have hurt the passing game

than these teams???? REALLY, I think we can agree that a change to the O-Line and RB coaches is needed. The head coach can stay, oh yeah, he coaches the running backs. :birgits_giggle:

Everyone says theat he needs time to compete against the SEC, it is year two and he has yet establish the run on non-SEC teams. If this is the case and a strong running game is critical to winning in the SEC, how many years is it until we can establish the run against SEC teams. Remember, these linemen will be gone in 2 seasons and it may take them that long to average 4 to 5 yards a carry against Sunbelt or Division II teams.

Oh and before someone brings up the 111 yards against LSU, heres a breakdown on the rushing totals against SEC teams

168 carries for 347 yards, 2.1 yards per carry

3.3 against non-SEC teams
2.1 against SEC teams

Spin that DOOL-HEADS, let me guess, its time to piss the bed to stay warm. Got to keep him for another year that way we dont hit rock bottom. :eek:lol:

WAKE UP. This is the offical kick-off of my new campaign

NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
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Stop. Just stop.
 
#42
#42
Just when I thought I had seen it all, this thread rears its ugly head

Poster already on my ignore

thread added to my ignore list

BUUBYE!!
 
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#43
#43
Go ahead and call it trolling and laugh at me, but deep inside, there is a little voice that is saying the same thing.
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Not just any troll, but a troll that has "voices" that tells him things. A troll possessed perhaps.
 
#44
#44
Dagreek1998 said:
Hey DOOL-HEADS, its that time again. IT'S REALITY TIME and I your host.

Topic: Offensive Line (Running Game vs Non-SEC Teams)

Excuse 1: We are young
Excuse 2: We dont have any talent
Excuse 3: We have no depth
Excuse 4: Injuries have hurt the passing game

Counterpoint:

Against Montana: 46 carries for 128 yards, 2.8 yds per carry. (Montana averaged 3.7 yards per carry)

Against Cincinnati: 35 carries for 126 yards, 3.6 yards per carry. (Cincinnati averaged 6.4 yards per carry)

(After Justin Hunter Injury)

Against Buffalo: 44 carries for 199 yards, 4.5 yards per carry (Buffalo averaged 5.3 yards per carry)

(After Tyler Bray Injury)

Against Middle Tennessee: 45 carries for 120 yards, 2.7 yards per carry (MTSU averaged 4.6 yards per carry)

Now, my point is simple. The most basic princple in football is the ability to run the football. Based on the factual information above, Tennessee has failed to do this against even non-SEC teams.

170 carries for 573 yards, 3.3 yards per carry

So DOOL-HEAD, is your arguement really going to be that we have

Excuse 1: We are younger
Excuse 2: We have less talent
Excuse 3: We have less depth
Excuse 4: Injuries have hurt the passing game

than these teams???? REALLY, I think we can agree that a change to the O-Line and RB coaches is needed. The head coach can stay, oh yeah, he coaches the running backs. :birgits_giggle:

Everyone says theat he needs time to compete against the SEC, it is year two and he has yet establish the run on non-SEC teams. If this is the case and a strong running game is critical to winning in the SEC, how many years is it until we can establish the run against SEC teams. Remember, these linemen will be gone in 2 seasons and it may take them that long to average 4 to 5 yards a carry against Sunbelt or Division II teams.

Oh and before someone brings up the 111 yards against LSU, heres a breakdown on the rushing totals against SEC teams

168 carries for 347 yards, 2.1 yards per carry

3.3 against non-SEC teams
2.1 against SEC teams

Spin that DOOL-HEADS, let me guess, its time to piss the bed to stay warm. Got to keep him for another year that way we dont hit rock bottom. :eek:lol:

WAKE UP. This is the offical kick-off of my new campaign

NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
NO YEAR THREE FOR DOOLEY
Click to expand...


Hey Dagreek, you missed your bus!!!

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#45
#45
Dagreek1998 said:
Thats funny, it gave me a laugh.

I know you may not like my point and think I am an idiot. My biggest fear is that we spend two more years going through this only to find out that Dooley is in over his head. Then, we will be screwed.

The reason I fear this is becasue the O-Line is where every great team begins. This is almost two entire seasons in the program for 4 of the 5 starters. and most of the reserves. That means the same coaches, gameplans, and drills. After 23 games, our line is still horrible. We cannot establish the run against even the weak woodshed teams on our schedule. If they have this little improvement after 23 games, do you really think they will be great in another 12 games.

Go ahead and call it trolling and laugh at me, but deep inside, there is a little voice that is saying the same thing. :hi:
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Think?
 
#46
#46
EB14GoVols said:
Just the basic facts. We have played 4 of the top 5 in rush D and did pretty good against three of them.

Ala. - #1 in rush D - gives up 51 a game - UT 92 yards
Cin. - #2 in rush D - gives up 80 a game - UT 126 yards
LSU - #3 in rush D - gives up 83.8 a game - UT 113 yards
UGA - #5 in rush D - gives up 87.3 a game - UT -5 yards
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No offense because it seems you worked hard on this but stats are for losers the results on the scoreboard are all that matter. And by the way the stats from bammer and lsu we had to run the ball we had no passing game it wasn't like we were pushing anyone around either, what were our total yards for those two games? Probably pretty close to our run totals
 
#48
#48
Crew said:
The thread isn't so bad.... I find it helpful when the morons point themselves out.
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Agreed. I think I was able to ignore at least half of the orange overall brigade based on the responses to the op on the first two pages.

PS: If you're thinking about responding to this post I've probably ignored you.
 
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#50
#50
I just want to know what you plan on doing about it. You seem to have so much authority and all with your "campaign."
 
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