Dormandy for QB 2016

[DaddyChad]

I was cursed by several for saying this after the Bama game. I hope I'm wrong because I believe Dobbs will be the starter next year but he doesn't seem to be able to win the big game.

Dobbs has more than his fair share of problems but he did more than enough to win the Florida game, and he won the uga game. Arguable that he could've had a few ints vs bama but he played very well versus them as well. He isn't the typical high percentage passer but he has done pretty decent this year.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You mean like UGA?

The defense held on to win that one. And yes Dobbs put us in that situation but.....

I have no confidence in Dobbs with less than 1:30 when we need a drive. He puts the ball in the air and I have the same fear I had with Crompton.

I think Dobbs is the starter till he graduates and I hope that I'm wrong and he brings us a sec championship. I just don't think he can.

 

[johnrlansford]

Rumors happen for every little reason or speculation...c'mon now! There doesn't HAVE to be substance to them because you want them to be true

Of course you have a FAVORITE...you posited that Sheriron was "a better fit" before he even enrolled. Whenever this subject pops up you're front and center about Dormady transferring. In fact you're the first poster I remember bring up the subject.

You misunderstand me. It's not that you prefer Sheriron based on HIGH SCHOOL highlights. That's a faulty basis for comparison because Dormady's are equally impressive. It's your constant shoehorning of that preference whenever a Dormady thread pops up. Unlike you I've never made that preference known. Because I KNOW that we have incomplete true data on both.

I'm constantly on HialeahGator because he repeats the fallacy that they passed on Sheriron because he's a DT QB...(yet they offered JG). I disagree...I see a prostyle passer who can move...he's no Dobbs. In fact I wouldn't bet on him beating Dormady in a footrace. They're on an even footing with Dormady's only advantage being experience in the same system (thanks Dad!) and enrolling early. There is NOTHING in their respective high school highlights that supports your preference. When you first declared Dormady would transfer, your reasoning was that "he doesn't fit this offense". After KB and I started up on you, that was amended to. "He's great...so he'll transfer for playing time". Whenever anyone else repeats that you jump in with your sob story about being harassed by "posters who worship the ground Dormady walks and drops back in". That's a cheap reduction for posters like myself who only want the best QB and admit that NO ONE ON THIS BOARD knows who that is. If you quit hitting that bright shiny lure, every time it flashes you'd enjoy these threads more. I can see equal scenarios for both being our eventual starter or one of them playing second fiddle to JG. Not looking forward to one of them transferring but I'm okay with either doing what's best for themselves.

Easy huh? :wink2:

I do not recall ever saying that Dormady was not a fit for the system, I did say that i felt S. Jones was a better fit for the system but that doens't mean that Dormady is a bad fit.

I have made this very simple, I stated nothing but my opinion about the QB situation. I am on the record saying that i Believe that Dormady will transfer and that he would get beat out by S. Jones this is taking JG completely out of the situation. Don't need any data just my opinion, I am still entitled to that right?

I have made Zero Claims of Knowledge....Zero claims of rumors...Zero claims of anything other than my opinion. I will stand by my opinion and I don't care who it pisses off. If Dormady Transfers i won't be happy, I hope i am wrong. I don't want to see any talented Kids go elsewhere and be great, unless it is better for the Kid. I want UT to win football games and that is all.

Why is my opinion so hard for anyone to grasp, it isn't unrealistic is it? It could happen to S. Jones just as easily as it could happen to Dormady? Its just my opinion, you don't have to agree with it but that doesn't mean I am going to change my opinion. The same way most people on here won't. You can stay neutral and play both sides that is fine, but that doesn't mean we all have too.

Pretty simple Huh?:thumbsup:

 

[butchna]

I do not recall ever saying that Dormady was not a fit for the system, I did say that i felt S. Jone was a better fit for the system but that doens't mean that Dormady is a bad fit.

I have made this very simple, I stated nothing but my opinion about the QB situation. I am on the record saying that i Believe that Dormady will transfer and that he would get beat out by S. Jones this is taking JG completely out of the situation. Don't need any data just my opinion, I am still entitled to that right?

I have made Zero Claims of Knowledge....Zero claims of rumors...Zero claims of anything other than my opinion. I will stand by my opinion and I don't care who it pisses off. If Dormady Transfers i won't be happy, I hope i am wrong. I don't want to see any talented Kids go elsewhere and be great, unless it is better for the Kid. I want UT to win football games and that is all. Why is my opinion so hard for anyone to grasp, it isn't unrealistic is it? It could happen to S. Jones just as easily as it could happen to Dormady? Its just my opinion, you don't have to agree with it but that doesn't mean I am going to change my opinion. The same way most people on here won't. You can stay neutral and play both sides that is fine, but that doesn't mena we all have too.

Pretty simple Huh?:thumbsup:

So you're admitting you're not "neutral"?...all I asked. :salute:

 

[johnrlansford]

So you're admitting you're not "neutral"?...all I asked. :salute:

You read the whole post and that is all you can say?

Well since I made my opinion known I guess I have made a prediction so I am not neutral. That doesn't mean I am against Dormady playing football here, I just don't think hes going to get the chance too. There is a big difference.

I like A. Kamara but I don't think he is ever gonna be a better back than Hurd. So am I against A. Kamara playing football here? No I just don't think he will ever be our #1 RB. You see what I am saying? Kamara is a great RB but not better than Hurd. The difference is Kamara will get som action because we need multiple RBs but QBs aren't that lucky. If Kamara wasn't getting some playing time here what would he do? Transfer? Transfering isn't always a bad thing, it can be beneficial for the player and the team in the long run.

The difference is you have chosen to not state an opinion on the situation (Stay Neutral) and wait to see what happens, that is fine but don't criticize me for having an opinion of my own.

 

[butchna]

You read the whole post and that is all you can say?

Well since I made my opinion known I guess I have made a prediction so I am not neutral. That doesn't mean I am against Dormady playing football here, I just don't think hes going to get the chance too. There is a big difference.

I like A. Kamara but I don't think he is ever gonna be a better back than Hurd. So am I against A. Kamara playing football here? No I just don't think he will ever be our #1 RB. You see what I am saying? Kamara is a great RB but not better than Hurd. The difference is Kamara will get som action because we need multiple RBs but QBs aren't that lucky. If Kamara wasn't getting some playing time here what would he do? Transfer? Transfering isn't always a bad thing, it can be beneficial for the player and the team in the long run.

The difference is you have chosen to not state an opinion on the situation (Stay Neutral) and wait to see what happens, that is fine but don't criticize me for having an opinion of my own.

Different situations...Hurd and Kamara can BOTH play...to mutual benefit. With Dormady and Jones only ONE can be the guy. I don't care that you have a preference. I care that your preference is based on looking at high school highlights and making out that you have some greater insight on here. The fact that you repeat this ad nauseum on here and take the martyr approach when countered powers this Merry-go- round. I'm not criticizing you for your opinion...I'm reserving that for you trying to make us ingest that opinion on a daily basis.

 

[k-town_king]

The defense held on to win that one. And yes Dobbs put us in that situation but.....

I have no confidence in Dobbs with less than 1:30 when we need a drive. He puts the ball in the air and I have the same fear I had with Crompton.

I think Dobbs is the starter till he graduates and I hope that I'm wrong and he brings us a sec championship. I just don't think he can.

And he had us in position to win the other games but the defense didn't hold. That would mean the defense has trouble closing out big games.

He had a great fourth quarter drive to take the lead that should have won versus Bama.

What qb is going to have success coming from behind with only 1:30 with our line and wrs?

 

[perico]

Dormady haters have nothing to worry about....the TCU rumors look true. He's gone, maybe after spring, but he's gone.

You can enjoy watching him tear up the Big 12 and make a run in the playoffs next year.

Big loss for this program.

That's not exactly a stretch considering that TCU is tearing up the Big XII and making a run at the playoffs this year. In fact, they did the same thing last year but came up just short. They have a great system in place. Too bad Mike Hamilton royally screwed the pooch and completely alienated Gary Patterson.

 

[theFallGuy]

I love Dobbs and I think he's our guy for next year but I feel like dormady could give us a better balance on offense with his strong and accurate arm from the little bit I've seen from him. Does anyone see him winning the job next year or does Dobbs get it based on seniority

We've got a seasoned veteran who has held is own for the most part against some very very good teams this year. Why the F would we put in some kid who hasn't played a lick of college yet because some people "feel" he would be better.

:good!:

Well unless you count that one play against Bowling Green as significant playing time.

 

[KBVol]

I am not claiming a theory, I am just saying that something has changed because rumors like this don't happen when a kid is completely happy where he is.

Once again "I DO NOT HAVE A FAVORITE" I am simply maintaining my opinion that I had before either took a snap here. I am a Tennessee Fan, have been one for 35 years now and I don't ever care what player is the star. All I care is that we win. It is simple just win.

I could care less is Jancek was our #2 QB. You are reading way too much into this. I did say that Dormady would transfer before he steped on campus but that doesn't mean I will be upset if he comes in and wins the starting job. Because all I care about is winning.

I just made a simply statement and got stoned for it. I may turn out to be right but that doesn't mean I am happy about it. It was simply my opinion as to what I thought would happen with the future of this football team, not a proclamation for S. Jones just what I thought would end up happening.

Come on John, just say it. I don't know who your "favorite" is, but you've made it very clear who your least favorite is since you started saying Dormady was sure/likely to transfer before Spring practice even started.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Yeah, JohnR, you started beating the "Dormady will transfer, Sheriron will be the next starter after Dobbs" drum for more than six months now. Starting before spring practice even began, iirc. Then, when Dormady was named the backup QB after spring camp, you briefly got on the "he's the backup because he's not as good, the second-best QB is the one that redshirts this year" angle. Now you've seen some other random person start a "Dormady will transfer to TCU" rumor, and you've latched onto it like a remora on a great white.

None of this makes you correct. Just consistent.

You have every right to your opinion. It's just disappointing to most of us that a fellow Vols fan would talk down a promising young man, almost seeming at times to be encouraging the lad to transfer away.

That's why people shake their heads at you, not just because you have an opinion.

Go Vols!

 

[butchna]

Yeah, JohnR, you started beating the "Dormady will transfer, Sheriron will be the next starter after Dobbs" drum for more than six months now. Starting before spring practice even began, iirc. Then, when Dormady was named the backup QB after spring camp, you briefly got on the "he's the backup because he's not as good, the second-best QB is the one that redshirts this year" angle. Now you've seen some other random person start a "Dormady will transfer to TCU" rumor, and you've latched onto it like a remora on a great white.

None of this makes you correct. Just consistent.

You have every right to your opinion. It's just disappointing to most of us that a fellow Vols fan would talk down a promising young man, almost seeming at times to be encouraging the lad to transfer away.

That's why people shake their heads at you, not just because you have an opinion.

Go Vols!

^Crystal

 

[johnrlansford]

Different situations...Hurd and Kamara can BOTH play...to mutual benefit. With Dormady and Jones only ONE can be the guy. I don't care that you have a preference. I care that your preference is based on looking at high school highlights and making out that you have some greater insight on here. The fact that you repeat this ad nauseum on here and take the martyr approach when countered powers this Merry-go- round. I'm not criticizing you for your opinion...I'm reserving that for you trying to make us ingest that opinion on a daily basis.

I am not basing it solely on the High School tapes i ams just making a guessbased on what i think. Dormady was signed and Butch persued S. Jones he obviously saw something in him that made him recruit him. So why would he do that if he was happy with just Dormady assuming he knew he was gonna convert J. Jennings eventually to another position? Then he Redshirts Jones, who if he really thought that Dormady was going to be the guy of the future here at QB then i would have wanted to save him for an extra year by redshirting him, but Butch decided to Redshirt Jones instead. I am just reading the signs, it may turn out to be nothing but it might be right. Only time will tell my opinion is based on far more than their High School tapes.

Simple enough for you?

 

[OrangeInKy]

That will never happen because he is on his way to Bama! He is willing to sit for a year there. The guy was a five star before he got hurt and now he is more accurate than ever. We will keep Dobbs and let him get sacked time and time again. Dobbs is good but he takes too long to make a decision. Dormady makes a much quicker read and is a much quicker and accurate passer! Good reads and quick decisions will always nullify a blitz!!!

You seemed to get a lot of analysis from the 10 or so passes the guy has thrown in a game

 

[johnrlansford]

Yeah, JohnR, you started beating the "Dormady will transfer, Sheriron will be the next starter after Dobbs" drum for more than six months now. Starting before spring practice even began, iirc. Then, when Dormady was named the backup QB after spring camp, you briefly got on the "he's the backup because he's not as good, the second-best QB is the one that redshirts this year" angle. Now you've seen some other random person start a "Dormady will transfer to TCU" rumor, and you've latched onto it like a remora on a great white.

None of this makes you correct. Just consistent.

You have every right to your opinion. It's just disappointing to most of us that a fellow Vols fan would talk down a promising young man, almost seeming at times to be encouraging the lad to transfer away.

That's why people shake their heads at you, not just because you have an opinion.

Go Vols!

I didn't latch on to anything!!! Everyone else is driving it into the ground. I have never once said a cross word about Dormady, NOT ONCE. In fact the reason I think he will transfer is because he is talented and will play somewhere. I hope that he does great here, but if someone else is the starting QB after Dobbs I am not going to be upset either.

The only reason is am constantly having to defend my opinion as if I am claiming to be some fortune teller. I don't know what will happen at the QB position and neither does anyone else on this thread, but I do know that atleast one of the QBs on campus right now won't be the starter after Dobbs leaves.

My biggest fear was that he would transfer after i said that because this is how people are reacting. I made a simple assessment of the QB position and you would think i wore the wrong color Orange to the Game. People have to realize there are a lot of players on the team who will never play a meaningful snap and that's ok. Sorry that this kid is the only kid any of the fans care about right now. I'll feel really bad for all of you if he does transfer because you have all put this kid on such a high tower that he will never meat any of your expectations even if he does stay and start after Dobbs. This is really sad, if i had said that S. Jones would transfer, no one in this thread would have even cared. Wow!!!!

 

[butchna]

I am not basing it solely on the High School tapes i ams just making a guessbased on what i think. Dormady was signed and Butch persued S. Jones he obviously saw something in him that made him recruit him. So why would he do that if he was happy with just Dormady assuming he knew he was gonna convert J. Jennings eventually to another position? Then he Redshirts Jones, who if he really thought that Dormady was going to be the guy of the future here at QB then i would have wanted to save him for an extra year by redshirting him, but Butch decided to Redshirt Jones instead. I am just reading the signs, it may turn out to be nothing but it might be right. Only time will tell my opinion is based on far more than their High School tapes.

Simple enough for you?

I know that Sheriron was the staff's top choice before Dormady committed. Also know that redshirting your next best QB when you don't have to is a fanciful leap of logic...you don't wait to develop your next option at QB...especially when you don't have to...as is your mysterious source for your opinion...other than high school tapes. :lol:

You're right! So simple it's easy! :w00t:

 

[johnrlansford]

You seemed to get a lot of analysis from the 10 or so passes the guy has thrown in a game

Don't talk bad about this kid he is the next great QB at UT and no one on here wants to hear the voice of reason.

 

[butchna]

I didn't latch on to anything!!! Everyone else is driving it into the ground. I have never once said a cross word about Dormady, NOT ONCE. In fact the reason I think he will transfer is because he is talented and will play somewhere. I hope that he does great here, but if someone else is the starting QB after Dobbs I am not going to be upset either.

The only reason is am constantly having to defend my opinion as if I am claiming to be some fortune teller. I don't know what will happen at the QB position and neither does anyone else on this thread, but I do know that atleast one of the QBs on campus right now won't be the starter after Dobbs leaves.

My biggest fear was that he would transfer after i said that because this is how people are reacting. I made a simple assessment of the QB position and you would think i wore the wrong color Orange to the Game. People have to realize there are a lot of players on the team who will never play a meaningful snap and that's ok. Sorry that this kid is the only kid any of the fans care about right now. I'll feel really bad for all of you if he does transfer because you have all put this kid on such a high tower that he will never meat any of your expectations even if he does stay and start after Dobbs. This is really sad, if i had said that S. Jones would transfer, no one in this thread would have even cared. Wow!!!!

See? More of the martyr crap at the end..."Everybody loves Dormady and I'm the ONLY ONE that loves Sheriron! :cray:". Bull and boo hoo! There are plenty that have expressed preference for SJ and they don't get the same response you do. It's because you want this response...that's why you keep repeating your martyr tag lines. Well on we go.

 

[johnrlansford]

See? More of the martyr crap at the end..."Everybody loves Dormady and I'm the ONLY ONE that loves Sheriron! :cray:". Bull and boo hoo! There are plenty that have expressed preference for SJ and they don't get the same response you do. It's because you want this response...that's why you keep repeating your martyr tag lines. Well on we go.

You must be right then, poor me...everyone picks on me. No the problem is that you were the one who mentioned the rumor he was thinking of transfering and Boro came in and told us what a loss it would be for the program...when realistcally we are going to lose one of them. No one player is bigger than this team, Dormady may not transfer and he may never be the starter, or he may be a star here or somewhere else. It doesn't matter as long as UT wins. I really don't care, and I am tired of defending my opinion.

If it he transfers I'll say I told you so, if he doesn't I'll say I was wrong. But for grown men to get so emotionally attached to a player that may or may not ever play here is sad! Whoever is the starter I will support them because I am a VOL Fan always have been, always will be. Go Vols!!! :thumbsup:

 

[butchna]

You must be right then, poor me...everyone picks on me. No the problem is that you were the one who mentioned the rumor he was thinking of transfering and Boro came in and told us what a loss it would be for the program...when realistcally we are going to lose one of them. No one player is bigger than this team, Dormady may not transfer and he may never be the starter, or he may be a star here or somewhere else. It doesn't matter as long as UT wins. I really don't care, and I am tired of defending my opinion.

If it he transfers I'll say I told you so, if he doesn't I'll say I was wrong. But for grown men to get so emotionally attached to a player that may or may not ever play here is sad! Whoever is the starter I will support them because I am a VOL Fan always have been, always will be. Go Vols!!! :thumbsup:

Shows the "emotional attachment" I have to Dormady that I repeated an unsubstantiated post by a possible troll...that Boro thinks he can verify it through his contacts in the Recruiting Witness Protection Program, is or isn't what it is. :blink: On to your novella. :gone:
If you're truly "tired"?...QUIT..."Simple enough"? :thumbsup:

Bet you won't tho. :wink2:

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I made a simple assessment of the QB position and you would think i wore the wrong color Orange to the Game....

...if i had said that S. Jones would transfer, no one in this thread would have even cared. Wow!!!!

I worry about that, too, wearing the wrong color orange to the game. I didn't until I started reading VolNation last winter, now I do. Hehe.

As for the last line of your post, I disagree. I'd be just as disappointed in SJ transfer rumors and predictions as those we've seen about QD. They're just irresponsible and not very welcoming to the young men (and we all know that some players' family members are among us in VN...so it does matter).

Whoever is the starter I will support them because I am a VOL Fan always have been, always will be. Go Vols!!! :thumbsup:

And I do appreciate that. :good!:

 

[Jdh13579]

I'm fairly certain butch will play the best qb to help us win next year. We have a qb in dormady that Bama wanted this year. JG is a stud and might be the #1 qb by signing day. Dobbs is a good college qb that fits this offense well. I don't mind who butch chooses next year as long as they win the big games. Dobbs has beat the teams he's suppose to beat and has yet to have a signature win. Sure we needed the Georgia game but they're an unranked team that's not very good. And we beat them without their only player. Whoever jones chooses I hope they win the big games and perform well in the clutch.

 

[bbaker3119]

Dobbs at receiver next year

 

[Dallasbowlin]

Why not play both? Makes the opposing defense plan that much harder.

 

[johnrlansford]

I worry about that, too, wearing the wrong color orange to the game. I didn't until I started reading VolNation last winter, now I do. Hehe.

As for the last line of your post, I disagree. I'd be just as disappointed in SJ transfer rumors and predictions as those we've seen about QD. They're just irresponsible and not very welcoming to the young men (and we all know that some players' family members are among us in VN...so it does matter).



And I do appreciate that. :good!:

Let's be clear, I didn't start the Rumor about Dormady Transfering to TCU. I had just said that it was my opinion that he eventually would transfer long before this rumor. I would love to keep them all, but we know that talented QBs will go where they can play.