Dormady Time?

[johnrlansford]

No chance in hell. Won't see Dormady unless Dobbs is injured.

He shouldn't be coming in either, He is a freshman unproven QB. Trust the process (sorry i had too), this season isn't lost yet.

 

[jps2194]

He threw it a little high to Josh Smith but it still was a very catchable ball. It HIT HIM IN THE HANDS!! IT was North he threw behind and it still hit him in the hands, the pearson ball was right out in front of him he was covered by the defender but then again it hit him in the hands. There wasn't many time he wasn't under some pressure. Dobbs isn't the problem, It is that he has all the pressure on him alone because the OLine sucks at pass block it is downright horrible, I would venture to say that the receivers have had more drops this year by far than last, They are horrible.

It is easy to place the blame on Dobbs i get it, but he isn't the problem and Dormady wouldn't be much better of a situation this was Florida not Western Carolina. Dobbs is the Only reason we were in the game at all at Florida!!! The Only reason!!! Hurd had a good game but only because Dobbs opened up the field for him by running the ball. Get real Dobbs goes so goes our season.

Sorry, but you are completely delusional and have no clue. Sure, it hit Smith in the hands when he jumped and twisted backwards in an attempt to make a catch.

You are also clueless on North's dropped ball. You obviously have never ran a route across the field at full speed and tried to catch a ball thrown behind you. It is extremely difficult and just because it hit him in the hands doesn't mean it is an easy catch.

I never said it was all on Dobbs and never said QD was the answer, so that is completely irrelevant. I'm just disputing your ridiculous claim that is the O line's fault.

You act as if Dobbs drops back and has zero time to make a decision and throw the ball. Go back and watch the games again. When he has had time he's missed plenty of passes. Obviously he has also been pressured, but please name for me one QB that doesn't face pressure. Through 4 games we have given up 9 sacks which ranks 83rd in the nation. Not great, but better than a lot of teams and roughly 2 per game. We gave up 1 against BG, 3 against OU, 1 against WC and 3 against Florida. The facts just don't support your argument.

I really don't know what to say if you don't recognize Dobbs' shortcomings as a passer. He's a heck of a leader, competitor, runner, receiver (we just learned) and is our best chance at victory. But please stop acting as if he's the best passer we've seen in a long time because he isn't. Not saying he can't develop into that, but we haven't seen it yet.

 

[johnrlansford]

Sorry, but you are completely delusional and have no clue. Sure, it hit Smith in the hands when he jumped and twisted backwards in an attempt to make a catch.

You are also clueless on North's dropped ball. You obviously have never ran a route across the field at full speed and tried to catch a ball thrown behind you. It is extremely difficult and just because it hit him in the hands doesn't mean it is an easy catch.

I never said it was all on Dobbs and never said QD was the answer, so that is completely irrelevant. I'm just disputing your ridiculous claim that is the O line's fault.

You act as if Dobbs drops back and has zero time to make a decision and throw the ball. Go back and watch the games again. When he has had time he's missed plenty of passes. Obviously he has also been pressured, but please name for me one QB that doesn't face pressure. Through 4 games we have given up 9 sacks which ranks 83rd in the nation. Not great, but better than a lot of teams and roughly 2 per game. We gave up 1 against BG, 3 against OU, 1 against WC and 3 against Florida. The facts just don't support your argument.

I really don't know what to say if you don't recognize Dobbs' shortcomings as a passer. He's a heck of a leader, competitor, runner, receiver (we just learned) and is our best chance at victory. But please stop acting as if he's the best passer we've seen in a long time because he isn't. Not saying he can't develop into that, but we haven't seen it yet.

Where I come from if the ball hits you in both hands you should catch it. Either way you look at it Dobbs is not getting any help from a mediocre Receiving corp.

The Oline has learned how to run block, but is horrible at pass blocking. I know the sack #s but that isn't the stat that tells how bad they Oline really is, he is under pressure and hurried on almost every pass play. I would venture to say that he is hurried and under pressure more than any other team in the SEC, and has far less time to throw than any other QB in the SEC.

I never said that he was the best passer in a long time, EVER. But i do think that he is underacheiving because of lack of play around him except for that of J. Hurd who is the only start right now on that offense besides Dobbs.

 

[jps2194]

Where I come from if the ball hits you in both hands you should catch it. Either way you look at it Dobbs is not getting any help from a mediocre Receiving corp.

The Oline has learned how to run block, but is horrible at pass blocking. I know the sack #s but that isn't the stat that tells how bad they Oline really is, he is under pressure and hurried on almost every pass play. I would venture to say that he is hurried and under pressure more than any other team in the SEC, and has far less time to throw than any other QB in the SEC.

I never said that he was the best passer in a long time, EVER. But i do think that he is underacheiving because of lack of play around him except for that of J. Hurd who is the only start right now on that offense besides Dobbs.

Like I said, you are clueless, especially your claim about hitting the receiver in the hands and they should catch it. To claim Dobbs has no responsibility in the pitiful passing game is ludicrous. They are all to blame and no unit is standing out.

 

[Nationdom]

Where I come from if the ball hits you in both hands you should catch it. Either way you look at it Dobbs is not getting any help from a mediocre Receiving corp.

The Oline has learned how to run block, but is horrible at pass blocking. I know the sack #s but that isn't the stat that tells how bad they Oline really is, he is under pressure and hurried on almost every pass play. I would venture to say that he is hurried and under pressure more than any other team in the SEC, and has far less time to throw than any other QB in the SEC.

I never said that he was the best passer in a long time, EVER. But i do think that he is underacheiving because of lack of play around him except for that of J. Hurd who is the only start right now on that offense besides Dobbs.

You don't have a clue.

 

[johnrlansford]

Like I said, you are clueless, especially your claim about hitting the receiver in the hands and they should catch it. To claim Dobbs has no responsibility in the pitiful passing game is ludicrous. They are all to blame and no unit is standing out.

I never said that Dobbs has no part in the bad passing game. I just said he isn't the main issue. You have no clue sir, it is so easy to just blame the QB when the passing game is going bad. Dobbs hasn't gotten any help at all from the Oline or Receivers. After that many dropped passes, any QB would be discouraged to throw the ball as well. Dobbs hasn't made all the throws, but he has had as many balls dropped as he has thrown bad passes.

If a ball hits the receiver in the hands, a good receiver bails out his QB with a catch. Our Receivers are not playing to their potential and that may be coaching but it isn't all on Dobbs by any means.

Play calling has sucked as well. It is almost like DeBord doesn't trust his own ability to change plays. It is almost like we should go to the Line with 3 plays and pick based on coverage. We are not taking what the defense is giving us ever. It has been horrible and the defense is suffering because they are on the field the whole second half.

 

[deezvols]

Since we can't RS him, it may be worth a shot, but as i've said before, I don't think it matters who is handing the ball off to the backs. Everyone knows we're not going to throw it downfield, so does it really matter who the QB is?

 

[bellevue]

That was last year not this year. The passing game looked just as bad under Worley.

2014 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Worley threw for 1579 in 7 games
Dobbs threw for 1206 in 5 games

Worley was 157 of 252 for 62.3% at 6.3 yds per throw
Dobbs was 112 oof 177 for 63.3% at 6.8 yds per throw

Worley Yds per attempt 5.8
Dobbs Yds per attempt 6.3

Worley QBR 124.3
Dobbs QBR 130.5

Wow it's amazing what actual information shows huh? Maybe to your untrained eye it looked better but it was actually about the same. So nice try though.

Bad OLine and Receiver drops are killing this offense.

It's also amazing what information looks like when you don't frame it properly by not mentioning what teams they played against.

 

[theFallGuy]

I know it may sound foolish with Dobbs' scrambling ability. But with ZERO threat of a passing game maybe it wouldn't be such a bad move. I've seen enough of both to know who the better passer is at this stage in their development. Dobbs is a Junior and will not suddenly become a premier passer next year. Dormady would give UT that threat I believe and would greatly assist the improvement of the Hurd/Kamara running attack.

IF you want to see an epic meltdown of the team go ahead take Dobbs out. Brilliant.

 

[k-town_king]

It's also amazing what information looks like when you don't frame it properly by not mentioning what teams they played against.

Dobbs did better versus SEC teams than Worley the last couple years. Check the stats. Worley had good games against some cupcakes.

 

[whobethis16]

Dobbs did better versus SEC teams than Worley the last couple years. Check the stats. Worley had good games against some cupcakes.

Dobbs' best game (301 yards) came against a USC defense that allowed 400+ ypg through the air, and took OT to get that many yards. Worley played against Florida, Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma...all who have better defenses than what Dobbs played against.

 

[wmcovol]

Who is Dormady going to throw to? The cement-handed, alligator-armed WRs that wear the orange? Surely you jest!

I'd play Jennings and Williams and tell the others to find a map to Carson Newman...

 

[B-17 Pilot]

I know it may sound foolish with Dobbs' scrambling ability. But with ZERO threat of a passing game maybe it wouldn't be such a bad move. I've seen enough of both to know who the better passer is at this stage in their development. Dobbs is a Junior and will not suddenly become a premier passer next year. Dormady would give UT that threat I believe and would greatly assist the improvement of the Hurd/Kamara running attack.

I am a big fan of Dobbs. . .BUT he's an adequate passer when he gets his footwork right! Furthermore, they aren't running him off the edge with the option more than 2 or 3 times a game! And why are we not at least attempting to throw to Ethan Wolf??? it doesn't take as long to develop as it does throwing to wide receivers and I think Wolf can be a difference maker! How many balls went in his direction Saturday?? I think it was ZERO! I love the Vols and have since 1965 - they will start winning and winning big. I think Butch is the answer as well. . .we have too many weapons not to open things up. Until the WR's get healthy run the Dobbs option and throw to Wolf and Hurd.

 

[LandonVFL]

@JimmyHyams: Jones said UT is looking to play true freshman QB Quinten Dormady: `We like his progress … He’s earned our trust.’ Via Twitter.

thoughts?

Edit: actually not quite what Jones said, the quote is accurate, but the decision to play dormady was not stated. Hyams bending some words a bit. Nothing to see here I guess, carry on

 

[johnrlansford]

It's also amazing what information looks like when you don't frame it properly by not mentioning what teams they played against.

Worley played against
Florida #22 Defense
Georgia #17 Defense,
Oklahoma #53 Defense

Dobbs played against
Alabama #8 Defense
Missouri #10 Defense
Iowa # 19 Defense
Vandy #28 Defense

Total Defense | FBS Football Statistics - NCAA.com

Dobbs clearly faced the tougher Defenses. Maybe you shoud check your stats before you run your mouth about things you have no clue about!!!

 

[johnrlansford]

Dobbs' best game (301 yards) came against a USC defense that allowed 400+ ypg through the air, and took OT to get that many yards. Worley played against Florida, Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma...all who have better defenses than what Dobbs played against.

Check the stats....Not even close on defensive ratings.

Worley played against
Florida #22 Defense
Georgia #17 Defense,
Oklahoma #53 Defense

Dobbs played against
Alabama #8 Defense
Missouri #10 Defense
Iowa # 19 Defense
Vandy #28 Defense

Total Defense | FBS Football Statistics - NCAA.com

Dobbs clearly faced the tougher Defenses.

 

[eakes]

Yes, it is almost Dormady Time! The Arkansas game plan was a setup for Dormady. Jones and his staff know that Dobbs is not qualified as a passer to lead the offense. (they knew that since last year but had no one else to play). Game plans until Arky were run oriented with few pass plays included (and those were short to TEs and RBs.

The Arky game plan was designed to show the fan base that Dobbs is not the answer for the passing game. Next up is Dormady, probably not against Georgia or Bama (unless an opportunity presents itself) but certainly for the late season run.

Dobbs passing stats for Arky was just over 50% completions and most of the completions were short (the longest was a 10 yd slant). There were a few drops, but way too many passes were not catchable.

Dobbs is a fine athlete but, like Jennings, he needs to find a position other that QB. Certainly, he needs a position other than QB if he has aspirations to play on Sunday! At QB he will be riding the bench next year and beyond.

 

[ptcarter]

Yes, it is almost Dormady Time! The Arkansas game plan was a setup for Dormady. Jones and his staff know that Dobbs is not qualified as a passer to lead the offense. (they knew that since last year but had no one else to play). Game plans until Arky were run oriented with few pass plays included (and those were short to TEs and RBs.

The Arky game plan was designed to show the fan base that Dobbs is not the answer for the passing game. Next up is Dormady, probably not against Georgia or Bama (unless an opportunity presents itself) but certainly for the late season run.

Dobbs passing stats for Arky was just over 50% completions and most of the completions were short (the longest was a 10 yd slant). There were a few drops, but way too many passes were not catchable.

Dobbs is a fine athlete but, like Jennings, he needs to find a position other that QB. Certainly, he needs a position other than QB if he has aspirations to play on Sunday! At QB he will be riding the bench next year and beyond.

Are you saying they purposely put Dobbs in a situation to reveal his weakness so the fans wouldn't be upset at a QB change? Put the feelings of Volnation ahead of winning games. Let us down gently. :good!:

 

[johnrlansford]

Yes, it is almost Dormady Time! The Arkansas game plan was a setup for Dormady. Jones and his staff know that Dobbs is not qualified as a passer to lead the offense. (they knew that since last year but had no one else to play). Game plans until Arky were run oriented with few pass plays included (and those were short to TEs and RBs.

The Arky game plan was designed to show the fan base that Dobbs is not the answer for the passing game. Next up is Dormady, probably not against Georgia or Bama (unless an opportunity presents itself) but certainly for the late season run.

Dobbs passing stats for Arky was just over 50% completions and most of the completions were short (the longest was a 10 yd slant). There were a few drops, but way too many passes were not catchable.

Dobbs is a fine athlete but, like Jennings, he needs to find a position other that QB. Certainly, he needs a position other than QB if he has aspirations to play on Sunday! At QB he will be riding the bench next year and beyond.

Bank on it Dormady will not be the starter this year unless Dobbs is physically unable to play. There is no conspiracy here, Dormady isn't ready and won't start next year either.

The fan base is pissed because we are what the media said we would be 7 win team this year. All the hype was crazy and most of it was self inflicted by our own fans. We will be fine Dobbs hasn't done anything to lose his starting job and Dormady hasn't done anything to take it from him. Dormady only plays when we are up by 3 scores and game is in hand.

Seriously? This is crazy!!!

 

[roosterjbh]

Bank on it Dormady will not be the starter this year unless Dobbs is physically unable to play. There is no conspiracy here, Dormady isn't ready and won't start next year either.

The fan base is pissed because we are what the media said we would be 7 win team this year. All the hype was crazy and most of it was self inflicted by our own fans. We will be fine Dobbs hasn't done anything to lose his starting job and Dormady hasn't done anything to take it from him. Dormady only plays when we are up by 3 scores and game is in hand.

Seriously? This is crazy!!!

I don't think Dormady should start at this point or later either, but I feel like you're attempting to talk yourself and others into it being just impossible after the many times you predicted QD transferring without any of the QBs even going through camp.

 

[johnrlansford]

I don't think Dormady should start at this point or later either, but I feel like you're attempting to talk yourself and others into it being just impossible after the many times you predicted QD transferring without any of the QBs even going through camp.

JMO but i did say he would transfer because i believe that the QB on campus S. Jones who is redshirting is going to beat him out and not to mention the others coming in the next few years. But that has nothing to do with this year, i don't believe that Dobbs has done anything to lose his job. He hasn't lost any of the games for us. I also believe that if QD starts that Hurds productivity goes down and we are in worse shape than right now.

 

[Volsick]

JMO but i did say he would transfer because i believe that the QB on campus S. Jones who is redshirting is going to beat him out and not to mention the others coming in the next few years. But that has nothing to do with this year, i don't believe that Dobbs has done anything to lose his job. He hasn't lost any of the games for us. I also believe that if QD starts that Hurds productivity goes down and we are in worse shape than right now.

I don't think so. Dormady isn't like Worely and can't move. He is mobile enough to make you pay if he had to. I'm not saying he is gonna rip off 40 yarders but he can still get to the sticks.

 

[orange plasma]

We're just a few points and several bad coaching decisions from being 5-0 with Dobbs with a less than average offensive line and playing elite competition. Without him. I'm not sure we even beat Bolling Green.

 

[orange plasma]

Without Dobb's mobility our OL will be exposed in a major way. Just like with Worley.

 

[orange plasma]

I think the theory that Debord has hurt Dobb's progression somehow has validity. Think back to last year's South Carolina, Kentucky, and Iowa games. Certainly nothing wrong with his performance in anyway then! The guy has the tools. Just poorly coached and needs confidence.