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TexasVolfan1 said:
Qd put the ball where the defender had to fall down for The reciever to even have a chance at it. We all know what a back shoulder throw is and we've all seen dobbs throw it much better than that. Not saying that QD isn't a good qb but let's be honest nobody has seen enough of him to say that's he's a good qb either
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Dobbs didn't do it intentionally.
 
#203
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k-town_king said:
I am well aware of what a comeback route is and what a back shoulder throw is. That was neither. The defender tripped up and fell on a pass that would have been broken up. He caught it on an adjustment on the inside by the defender. Back shoulder throws are caught on the sideline side. it also wasn't a comeback route. Stop making up stuff.

3:19 is the the throw in question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXOaR6kUmRw
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Perfect throw. If the defender doesn't fall down that is PI.

Aren't you a staunch defender of D4H?
 
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That throw was no back shoulde throw. That was an UNDERTHROWN ball. Looks like Malone may have given him a nudge to get to the inside. Play it slow, and you'll see that the throw was right at the defender. He saw the ball at the our 47 (turned when Malone turned), pushed or fell, then Malone got inside to make the catch.
 

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gunner said:
It hasn't been flexible since Butch has been here, its been mostly read option with run pass options. It's not a drop back pro style passing offense. This offense requires a running QB to be successful which Dormady is NOT.
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Remember how he pleaded with Bray, Hunter, and Cordarrelle to stay because he knew how to run Pro-Style....... Such a sham.
 
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gunner said:
It hasn't been flexible since Butch has been here, its been mostly read option with run pass options. It's not a drop back pro style passing offense. This offense requires a running QB to be successful which Dormady is NOT.
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We didn't have this offense BEFORE Butch arrived. He brought it with HIM. You've formed your expertise based on Dobbs being better than Worley as a QB and the offense scheming to his strengths. No it's not a pro-style drop back offense...it's a spread. And multiple Texas Tech pro style passers have flourished in spreads. Butch just wants his QBs to be able to take advantage of openings and Dormady is perfectly capable of doing that. If JG knows the offense as well or better than Dormady, he most likely wins the job...if not, Dormady or Jones would be weapons. YOU require a running QB...Our coach doesn't.
 
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MiramarVol said:
That throw was no back shoulde throw. That was an UNDERTHROWN ball. Looks like Malone may have given him a nudge to get to the inside. Play it slow, and you'll see that the throw was right at the defender. He saw the ball at the our 47 (turned when Malone turned), pushed or fell, then Malone got inside to make the catch.
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See that throw in the pros...they call it a back shoulder throw. :)
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Perfect throw. If the defender doesn't fall down that is PI.


That was not a back shoulder throw. He underthrew it and Malone turned. A back shoulder throw is to the outside where only the wr can get it. If the db didn't fall down it was broken up or intercepted.

Aren't you a staunch defender of D4H?

No. I do find it funny so many of the posters are obsessed with him and his posts though.
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Funny thing is, even bad QBs make good throws. Digging in over every possible positive shows the haters desperation. :lol:
 
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butchna said:
We didn't have this offense BEFORE Butch arrived. He brought it with HIM. You've formed your expertise based on Dobbs being better than Worley as a QB and the offense scheming to his strengths. No it's not a pro-style drop back offense...it's a spread. And multiple Texas Tech pro style passers have flourished in spreads. Butch just wants his QBs to be able to take advantage of openings and Dormady is perfectly capable of doing that. If JG knows the offense as well or better than Dormady, he most likely wins the job...if not, Dormady or Jones would be weapons. YOU require a running QB...Our coach doesn't.
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I never said that this offense preceded Butch. I just said that Butch has NOT been flexible with this offense since he's been at UT. It's always been a run first pass second scheme which is why Dormady will not be a successful as Dobbs in Butch's scheme.
 
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gunner said:
I never said that this offense preceded Butch. I just said that Butch has NOT been flexible with this offense since he's been at UT. It's always been a run first pass second scheme which is why Dormady will not be a successful as Dobbs in Butch's scheme.
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We've had TWO QBs in the FOUR years he's been at Tennessee (quit trying to use Peterman) and one was better than the other so we slanted the scheme to fit his strengths. FOUR years and TWO QBs is nowhere near enough body of work to form an "always" narrative.
 
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If you are being honest, Peterman's resurgence at Pitt and Dobbs lack of improvement has to make you wonder about our quarterback development and question our lack of a quarterback coach.
 
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butchna said:
See that throw in the pros...they call it a back shoulder throw. :)
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Back Shoulder aka the "Stop Fade". Which is throw to the outside shoulder of the receiver (sideline side), in order for the receiver to put his body between the ball and defender. If the DB hadn't slipped, it probably would have been picked off or he and Malone would have to fight over the catch. Our QB's don't always execute it properly. Moon, Peyton, Brees are all guys would did it well. But hey, in end the end it was a reception. Paint it Orange. 1st Down Tennessee. #MTCG
 
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gunner said:
I never said that this offense preceded Butch. I just said that Butch has NOT been flexible with this offense since he's been at UT. It's always been a run first pass second scheme which is why Dormady will not be a successful as Dobbs in Butch's scheme.
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It was NOT a run first offense from the QB position, ESPECIALLY during the Worley period. It may be a run first offense, but even now there are very few designed runs for Dobbs. What, many times, people view as a read option is not. Most of Dobbs successful runs come as a result of a broken play where he has decided to improvise and run. It's what he brings to the table and does very well. What he does not do very well is a pre-snap read that allows for a quick progression and throw, or an audible to out us in a better running play. That type of recognition can take this offense to another level. Passing success will open up the run game. It's really the way this "system" is designed and has best worked for Butch elsewhere.
 
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Originally Posted by JMSqb11 View Post
Remember how he pleaded with Bray, Hunter, and Cordarrelle to stay because he knew how to run Pro-Style....... Such a sham.

RDU Vol#14: No I don't recall that.

You are correct in not recalling that. Heck, Bray was ineligible, and known to be so at the time, because of an agency issue, as I recall.
 
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MiramarVol said:
Back Shoulder aka the "Stop Fade". Which is throw to the outside shoulder of the receiver (sideline side), in order for the receiver to put his body between the ball and defender. If the DB hadn't slipped, it probably would have been picked off or he and Malone would have to fight over the catch. Our QB's don't always execute it properly. Moon, Peyton, Brees are all guys would did it well. But hey, in end the end it was a reception. Paint it Orange. 1st Down Tennessee. #MTCG
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Read this article it literately talks about Flacco's perfectly underthrown deep balls. Which is what Dormady did.

Bill Belichick explains how to not interfere on Joe Flacco's deep passes
 
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