Dormady Rumors

[Sarms58]

Dormandy only had two passing plays on Saturday but, he looked like a true QB. He kept his eyes downfield, made very quick reads, and found an open receiver. Tennessee has lived and died by Dobbs, but the downfield threat is not really there and every defense we play knows this. I think we might a more consistent offense with a QB who can get rid of the ball faster and likely more consistently hitting receivers. It's an unfortunate situation for QD that Dobbs has pulled off enough runs and clutch passes to keep him in the starting role. As far as a true QB, field general, or "CEO", I'm certainly wondering if QD might be the better choice.

I don't think so this year in part because Dobbs is a team leader and you would wreck team chemistry if you bench him in favor of QD...I also would prefer better line play before QD (or whoever is QB next year) steps in so we don't have a repeat of Worthy...

Dobbs was (and is) an interim fix at QB...I know people wanted us to be back sooner but the next two seasons are really where Butch should be judged...he's brought talent level up in some areas but we are still deficient in others...can he bring all areas up and field a team that is solid across the board?

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

I don't think so this year in part because Dobbs is a team leader and you would wreck team chemistry if you bench him in favor of QD...I also would prefer better line play before QD (or whoever is QB next year) steps in so we don't have a repeat of Worthy...

Dobbs was (and is) an interim fix at QB...I know people wanted us to be back sooner but the next two seasons are really where Butch should be judged...he's brought talent level up in some areas but we are still deficient in others...can he bring all areas up and field a team that is solid across the board?

Lol. Priceless.

 

[johnrlansford]

Dormandy only had two passing plays on Saturday but, he looked like a true QB. He kept his eyes downfield, made very quick reads, and found an open receiver. Tennessee has lived and died by Dobbs, but the downfield threat is not really there and every defense we play knows this. I think we might a more consistent offense with a QB who can get rid of the ball faster and likely more consistently hitting receivers. It's an unfortunate situation for QD that Dobbs has pulled off enough runs and clutch passes to keep him in the starting role. As far as a true QB, field general, or "CEO", I'm certainly wondering if QD might be the better choice.

You have every right to be wrong!!!
Dobbs is the best option at QB, there is no doubting that. QD may prove to be a good QB but he isn't on Dobbs level right now. Dormady threw 3 passes on Saturday, 2 should have been picked including the one for the large gain and the other he got hurried and threw out of bounds.

Nothing about his performance in any game has given anyone reason to think he will be a better QB than Dobbs has been thus far.

 

[JMSqb11]

Dormady is our starter next year.... So glad to have a passing qb waiting to take the reigns.

 

[JMSqb11]

You have every right to be wrong!!!
Dobbs is the best option at QB, there is no doubting that. QD may prove to be a good QB but he isn't on Dobbs level right now. Dormady threw 3 passes on Saturday, 2 should have been picked including the one for the large gain and the other he got hurried and threw out of bounds.

Nothing about his performance in any game has given anyone reason to think he will be a better QB than Dobbs has been thus far.

A back shoulder throw downfield that is right on the money "should have been picked"????? Do you understand why that throw was placed where it was?

 

[johnrlansford]

A back shoulder throw downfield that is right on the money "should have been picked"????? Do you understand why that throw was placed where it was?

You need to watch the play again,the ball was under thrown and the defender fell down. It wasn't a back shoulder throw it was under thrown. and should have been picked if there 1st team defense would have been in the game. The ball was thrown inside not outside it wasn't a back shoulder throw, it was a streak and he under threw it. I have watched it like 15 times, it was not a good decision, it just worked out in his favor. But it wasn't a good play.

 

[smokey0625]

Cool. Didn't know you were a scout. Glad I know you are now. From now on your posts will hold more weight with me.

Didn't run away from northwesterns 2nd team last year. Doubt he can versus any sec defense. Don't be dumb.

 

[JMSqb11]

You need to watch the play again,the ball was under thrown and the defender fell down. It wasn't a back shoulder throw it was under thrown. and should have been picked if there 1st team defense would have been in the game. The ball was thrown inside not outside it wasn't a back shoulder throw, it was a streak and he under threw it. I have watched it like 15 times, it was not a good decision, it just worked out in his favor. But it wasn't a good play.

That is throw made tons of time in the pro's. Throw to the back shoulder where the reciever can come back to it and make a play or slow down and come back to the ball, causing the defender to commit pass interference..... Have you not watched football in the last two years???? These are fairly simple play calls and QD put it on the money where he had too.

 

[k-town_king]

Dormady is our starter next year.... So glad to have a passing qb waiting to take the reigns.

How do you know he is a good passer? Game play has been average. So was fall camp where two other qbs passed it better. If he didn't pass the ball better than Dobbs in camp, what makes you think he will pass better in games against SEC defenses?
:thud:

 

['Boro-vol]

That is throw made tons of time in the pro's. Throw to the back shoulder where the reciever can come back to it and make a play or slow down and come back to the ball, causing the defender to commit pass interference..... Have you not watched football in the last two years???? These are fairly simple play calls and QD put it on the money where he had too.

You'll have to excuse Lansford and his over-the-top history of anti-Dormady bias. He knows it was a back shoulder throw, it just doesn't fit his narrative that anyone is a better QB for the Vols than QD.

 

[TexasVolfan1]

That is throw made tons of time in the pro's. Throw to the back shoulder where the reciever can come back to it and make a play or slow down and come back to the ball, causing the defender to commit pass interference..... Have you not watched football in the last two years???? These are fairly simple play calls and QD put it on the money where he had too.

Qd put the ball where the defender had to fall down for The reciever to even have a chance at it. We all know what a back shoulder throw is and we've all seen dobbs throw it much better than that. Not saying that QD isn't a good qb but let's be honest nobody has seen enough of him to say that's he's a good qb either

 

[JMSqb11]

Qd put the ball where the defender had to fall down for The reciever to even have a chance at it. We all know what a back shoulder throw is and we've all seen dobbs throw it much better than that. Not saying that QD isn't a good qb but let's be honest nobody has seen enough of him to say that's he's a good qb either

Hmmmm.... The defender fell because the throw was put where the receiver had to come back to ball when the defender has to interfere or hold to keep the receiver from catching the ball.... That is by design.....

 

[k-town_king]

Hmmmm.... The defender fell because the throw was put where the receiver had to come back to ball when the defender has to interfere or hold to keep the receiver from catching the ball.... That is by design.....

There is not a play in any coaches playbook that counts on a defender falling or interfering. lol

 

[millst987]

Doesn't matter. JG is the future qb for UT. He's a faster Dobbs with a rocket launcher for an arm.

 

[JMSqb11]

There is not a play in any coaches playbook that counts on a defender falling or interfering. lol

It happens every week in the NFL.... You throw the ball short in one on one coverage where the receiver comes back to the ball, forcing the defender to interfere or hold..... It is a very routine play call that the Brady's, Manning's, and others do all the time week after week....


Of course the tv ratings are down this year for the NFL so you must be one of the folks that don't tune in anymore.

It is a playcall based on getting a 15 yard PI or Holding penalty against the defense or the receiver making a play.... Not that hard to comprehend...

 

[KBVol]

There is not a play in any coaches playbook that counts on a defender falling or interfering. lol

Come on dude, you know what he's saying. A backshoulder or deliberately underthrown ball, if thrown corrrctly, is virtually indefensible and is a big part of pretty much all passing games. That's what he was talking about, not that the play was designed to make or count on the DB falling down. It was a well-thrown ball by QD, no matter how you hate to admit it.

 

[k-town_king]

It happens every week in the NFL.... You throw the ball short in one on one coverage where the receiver comes back to the ball, forcing the defender to interfere or hold..... It is a very routine play call that the Brady's, Manning's, and others do all the time week after week....


Of course the tv ratings are down this year for the NFL so you must be one of the folks that don't tune in anymore.

I am well aware of what a comeback route is and what a back shoulder throw is. That was neither. The defender tripped up and fell on a pass that would have been broken up. He caught it on an adjustment on the inside by the defender. Back shoulder throws are caught on the sideline side. it also wasn't a comeback route. Stop making up stuff.

3:19 is the the throw in question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXOaR6kUmRw

 

[k-town_king]

Come on dude, you know what he's saying. A backshoulder or deliberately underthrown ball, if thrown corrrctly, is virtually indefensible and is a big part of pretty much all passing games. That's what he was talking about, not that the play was designed to make or count on the DB falling down. It was a well-thrown ball by QD, no matter how you hate to admit it.

It wasn't a good pass. It was not a designed comeback or back shoulder throw. Those are great plays. Neither of which this pass was. The guy fell down and we got lucky. If he stays upright its a pbu at least and a int potentially.

 

[KBVol]

It wasn't a good pass. It was not a designed comeback or back shoulder throw. Those are great plays. Neither of which this pass was. The guy fell down and we got lucky. If he stays upright its a pbu at least and a int potentially.

Just stop. Weren't you also the one complaining about the perfectly placed 49 yard over the shoulder throw he made last year to PWill vs Western Carolina? QD could complete 100% of his passes for 1,500 yards and 12 tds next week and you'd be picking apart every throw he made.

 

[k-town_king]

Just stop. Weren't you also the one complaining about the perfectly placed 49 yard over the shoulder throw he made last year to PWill vs Western Carolina? QD could complete 100% of his passes for 1,500 yards and 12 tds next week and you'd be picking apart every throw he made.

No that is what people do to Dobbs. He can have 450 yards of offense and people still complain.

Dormady has looked average in games. The WCU pass was very average, not perfect. Dobbs pass vs UK was perfect or some of the ones he threw this year. Dormady's throw had to have the wr stop and get tackled on a pass any SEC db would have broken up anyway.

The confirmation bias is strong with the Dormady guys.

 

[24/7vol]

Dormady is the starter next year..get over it. JG will get his chance..just not next year barring injury to Dormady.

 

[k-town_king]

Dormady is the starter next year..get over it. JG will get his chance..just not next year barring injury to Dormady.

Based on what? Pretty much every single practice observer said JG looked like our most talented qb and has the best arm. They said he looked better in the fall and is most likely the starter after Dobbs.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

You need to watch the play again,the ball was under thrown and the defender fell down. It wasn't a back shoulder throw it was under thrown. and should have been picked if there 1st team defense would have been in the game. The ball was thrown inside not outside it wasn't a back shoulder throw, it was a streak and he under threw it. I have watched it like 15 times, it was not a good decision, it just worked out in his favor. But it wasn't a good play.

(Shhhhh.... no one tell him the throw was against Minkah Fitzpatrick, the bolded would make him look like he has no clue what he's talking about)

 

[volsfan2918]

I am well aware of what a comeback route is and what a back shoulder throw is. That was neither. The defender tripped up and fell on a pass that would have been broken up. He caught it on an adjustment on the inside by the defender. Back shoulder throws are caught on the sideline side. it also wasn't a comeback route. Stop making up stuff.

3:19 is the the throw in question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXOaR6kUmRw

The throw QD made was the same Dobbs made to the same receiver, Malone, in the Florida game. It is a common play. Bray used to throw those to Hunter all the time.

 

[24/7vol]

Based on what? Pretty much every single practice observer said JG looked like our most talented qb and has the best arm. They said he looked better in the fall and is most likely the starter after Dobbs.

We can revisit this next fall when QD is named as the starter.