Dormady did a lot better than you think:

[fossilfiction]

Play action passes were really well executed. At this point the sky is the limit for Dormady. He has a beast named John Kelly and a go getter with speed like Callaway to help out. If the drops stop then this offense will be deadly.

 

[sjt18]

What game did JG play in for you to know this?

You probably said Dormady was better than Dobbs too. As we see we don't need to proclaim players better or worse than others if they haven't proven it on the field.

JG could be 10x the player in game. He could be worse. He needs a chance to show which one it is with Dormady looking shaky.

JG got his shot to win the job. He didn't. He's now the back up. That's his role. I know you don't like it. I know you think Jones should play him to prove to YOU that he's not the better player. But the staff has watched these guys compete for the last 8 months and chosen the guy they believe to be the best QB right now to lead the O.

You need to just get over it, stop trashing QD, and become a Vol fan if you are one.

Did you listen to Jones' response concerning the JG questions today? You should. You should also note that he said the competition would continue... then compared JG's situation to Dormady's when Dormady was Dobbs' back up.

Jones ALWAYS uses the word "competition" to describe players working to push each other to become better. It USUALLY doesn't mean they're competing for the starting job.

 

[McDad]

I pray we're sandbagging on his read/option. Gave that look a few times in the game. Looked wide open to keep at least once. If he can keep a defense honest with 2 or 3 quality keeps a game, i like his potential.

 

[Brasszilla]

False on pretty much every count. I saw two occasions where you could say he threw into coverage... and one of those is questionable. He made VERY few bad decisions and didn't lock onto receivers at all.

The last claim of inaccuracy... is debatable because of the drops and some apparent misreads by receivers.

He made mistakes but hardly worthy of the review you gave him.

I watched that YouTube with every offensive snap of the game, he made 3 questionable throws all in the 1st half. We have no idea if it was him or the receiver either. For sure the wrs(and Ethan) weren't making plays first half. 2nd half qd was pretty crisp and accurate and poised. I really wonder which game some of these people watched.

 

[sjt18]

Play action passes were really well executed. At this point the sky is the limit for Dormady. He has a beast named John Kelly and a go getter with speed like Callaway to help out. If the drops stop then this offense will be deadly.

I'm really excited about these receivers once they get some live game time together. I like Callaway but I look for some really big things out of Johnson and the others too. The coaches seem to love Palmer.

 

[wouldbenicetowin]

False on pretty much every count. I saw two occasions where you could say he threw into coverage... and one of those is questionable. He made VERY few bad decisions and didn't lock onto receivers at all.

The last claim of inaccuracy... is debatable because of the drops and some apparent misreads by receivers.

He made mistakes but hardly worthy of the review you gave him.

I saw great potential out of Dormady. I concur with your assessment. Its hard to believe how hard people are on a kid playing in the game that it turned out to be. Just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Brasszilla]

BS exaggeration. There were a couple they could have picked.

Sorry, but QD is better than JG and it appears as though you are completely butt hurt over it

The butthurt is very strong with a couple people on here.

 

[sjt18]

I watched that YouTube with every offensive snap of the game, he made 3 questionable throws all in the 1st half. We have no idea if it was him or the receiver either. For sure the wrs(and Ethan) weren't making plays first half. 2nd half qd was pretty crisp and accurate and poised. I really wonder which game some of these people watched.

His worst play IMO was when he threw into coverage on a crossing route by Jennings. In the replay, you could see someone with 5 yards deeper down field. Would have been an easy score.

Start at the 10:11 mark of the 2nd qtr then watch the replay looking into the top right corner.

I'm not saying Jennings injury was a good thing... but it did force Dormady to stop looking for him first on every play. He started going through his progressions better and trusting his reads.

 

[114VOL]

What game did JG play in for you to know this?

You probably said Dormady was better than Dobbs too. As we see we don't need to proclaim players better or worse than others if they haven't proven it on the field.

JG could be 10x the player in game. He could be worse. He needs a chance to show which one it is with Dormady looking shaky.

Like I told you in another thread, I never said that about Dobbs so S_T_FU on that matter. Don't put words in my mouth

He didn't play a down. If he were as good as Dormady, he would have played. The coaches know more than you. That's 100% pure fact too. I trust the coaches to play the best players. That's how I know

 

[Brasszilla]

His worst play IMO was when he threw into coverage on a crossing route by Jennings. In the replay, you could see someone with 5 yards deeper down field. Would have been an easy score.

Start at the 10:11 mark of the 2nd qtr then watch the replay looking into the top right corner.

I'm not saying Jennings injury was a good thing... but it did force Dormady to stop looking for him first on every play. He started going through his progressions better and trusting his reads.

To be honest I was telling my girlfriend during the first half they needed to take Jennings out for a bit as he just looked disinterested, just going thru the motions. Not that I wish injury but I too thought it got better once he went out.

 

[sjt18]

Like I told you in another thread, I never said that about Dobbs so S_T_FU on that matter. Don't put words in my mouth

He didn't play a down. If he were as good as Dormady, he would have played. The coaches know more than you. That's 100% pure fact too. I trust the coaches to play the best players. That's how I know

No. You just don't get it. k-town king is backed up by recruiting rankings, assumptions that JG will run like JD, and a few practice clips. He obviously knows better than professional coaches who should start. He cares more too than guys whose jobs and careers depend on starting the right QB.

Seriously, Jones brought in Canales to get the most out of these QB's. Jones is going off the opinion of a guy with a good resume who has spent the last 8 months developing these two guys. They have evaluated everything the QB's have done since they stepped on campus. They have watched, rewatched, and graded every drill and play.

But somehow... they just aren't to be trusted to start the right guy.

 

[sjt18]

I pray we're sandbagging on his read/option. Gave that look a few times in the game. Looked wide open to keep at least once. If he can keep a defense honest with 2 or 3 quality keeps a game, i like his potential.

Multiple times. Jones has previously said that even with Dobbs some of those zone option looks are really straight runs with no option for the QB. So it will always be hard for us to know with certainty whether the QB had a real choice or not.

That said... he DID have some wide open field a few times. Wish they had taken advantage of it. Probably going to become a coaching point or a coaching discussion.

 

[24/7vol]

False on pretty much every count. I saw two occasions where you could say he threw into coverage... and one of those is questionable. He made VERY few bad decisions and didn't lock onto receivers at all.

The last claim of inaccuracy... is debatable because of the drops and some apparent misreads by receivers.

He made mistakes but hardly worthy of the review you gave him.

28 points in just over 18 minutes with six drops. I'll take that but it doesn't fit some folks narrative.

 

[sjt18]

The butthurt is very strong with a couple people on here.

I would wager that most of them got caught up in the "either/or" debates concerning the QB competition. Most of us either didn't favor one over the other or ultimately decided to trust the coaches when they made their choice. Those like k-town king eventually came to a point of declaring that JG SHOULD be the starter and vested their pride/ego in that position. Now, they've been proven wrong and rather than accept it... they have to find a way to avoid admitting they were wrong.

This all started with k-town king a couple of weeks ago when it started to become very apparent that QD would start. He then started with the fall back argument that there not only could but SHOULD be a 2 QB system to "decide the competition". He didn't really care how that would impact the team... only that it would prevent him from being completely wrong about his prediction that JG would be the starter.

 

[KBVol]

No offense to QD, but if that was the best debut ever for a TN QB, we don't have much of a history of quarterbacks coming out of the gate particularly quick. QD deserves credit for bouncing back and playing well the second half after a rough start, but we still have questions at the QB spot. As Hubbs said this morning, Quentin didn't exactly go and seize total control of the qb position and slam the door on his competition with his JG with his play on Monday.

 

[UTFootballFan]

I pray we're sandbagging on his read/option. Gave that look a few times in the game. Looked wide open to keep at least once. If he can keep a defense honest with 2 or 3 quality keeps a game, i like his potential.

He kept it twice for an average of 6.4 or so yards. You've already received your wish for game one.

 

[sjt18]

No offense to QD, but if that was the best debut ever for a TN QB, we don't have much of a history of quarterbacks coming out of the gate particularly quick. QD deserves credit for bouncing back and playing well the second half after a rough start, but we still have questions at the QB spot. As Hubbs said this morning, Quentin didn't exactly go and seize total control of the qb position and slam the door on his competition with his JG with his play on Monday.

Yeah... dealt with the drops. Continued to play through them. Played through his own nervousness and mistakes. Played through the loss of his #1 WR. Kept his poise. Managed the O under extreme pressure. Made some critical throws... some elite throws. Threw for 221 yds and two TD's in what amounts to just over one qtr of TOP. He really "sucked".

I really don't give a crap about how his performance stands in some subjective way against other performances. I do care about the guy getting his due for what he did. I'm not sure what Hubbs was looking at... most of us were watching a leader bring his team back from the jaws of defeat.

 

[tbones0711]

Stats don't always tell the whole story. Lets hope if he continues to start he makes way better decisions, stops staring wrs down, and sailing passes high.

He's not planting his feet correctly which leads to less zip on the ball and in turn inaccuracy. Threw behind Byrd across the middle the play before 50 yd. pass to Callaway. Byrd could have been injured on that play easily. I wouldn't be dishing out a lot of praise just yet. GT just rushed 3 lineman most of the time. I think they blitzed just twice. He's gonna see a lot more pressure in two weeks. The OL and QD need to both improve fast. Maybe a good game to see JG in. Put a scrambler in with the purpose of wearing down UF's line.

 

[tbones0711]

You do realize that the GT flexbone offense is designed to lull secondaries to sleep. Once Paul Johnson sees the secondary looking in the backfield, he will call for a deep ball with an A back going down the seam or a wheel route with the A back going one way and the play going the other. They only threw nine passes total I believe. It is just that they were to wide open receivers the slipped past a CB that was looking to get a tackle on the next running play.

I saw Martin playing way off recievers to avoid getting beat deep and GT jumped on that like a duck on a junebug. UT pulled Martin quick. Other than that coverage downfield was adequate IMO. UT had 1 coverage bust but Bituli got to Marshall and he made a bad throw. UT defenders knew better than to cheat up for the run because of the deep pass. Another reason why GT had so many rushing yds.

 

[butchna]

Sorry to go off topic but in almisr every thread there is reference to the losses vs SC and Vandy. Imo the injuries on D were a factor but I think we were also demoralized after that beatdown by Bama. That game ripped the spirit from the team..and it didn't return until the bowl game. Funny we played them better w Dooley at the helm. We must find a way to lower the vast gap between us and them. Its an automatic loss each season. Not only loss but beatdown. And its more than just them having more 5 stars than us. Anyway...just my off topic 2 cents.

We never had a lead against Bama under Dooley...as we did late in the game two seasons ago. In fact, Dooley's team lost by 31 all three seasons...so you're wrong.

 

[VolFootballIsLife]

JG could be 10x the player in game. He could be worse. He needs a chance to show which one it is with Dormady looking shaky.

He gets that chance in practice and has for 2 years. The coaches don't owe it to you to put him in a game situation so you can evaluate it on your tv for yourself. People seem to think the fans somehow are owed the opportunity to get a first hand peak so THEY can properly evaluate and provide legitimate input.

 

[VolFootballIsLife]

As Hubbs said this morning, Quentin didn't exactly go and seize total control of the qb position and slam the door on his competition with his JG with his play on Monday.

I agree, KB...but as the article pointed out, past first-time starters never did either.

 

[Sarms58]

Not a bad first game but definitely some areas to improve. I thought he missed some open receivers because he was locked on to another and did make s few ill advised throws. I expect him to improve in these areas. Hopefully the O will come out on all cylinders Sat so both QBs play.

 

[Vol Main]

Bray's start was against Memphis, though. Quality of opponent makes a big difference.

Yes, it was Memphis. But Bray played a great game.

 

[sjt18]

He gets that chance in practice and has for 2 years. The coaches don't owe it to you to put him in a game situation so you can evaluate it on your tv for yourself. People seem to think the fans somehow are owed the opportunity to get a first hand peak so THEY can properly evaluate and provide legitimate input.

:good!::lolabove:

This... is GOOD!