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#101
#101
OldandStillaVol said:
The counterexample to that logic is the Senate race in Indiana. Mordoch was a true conservative and beat the moderate Lugar easily in the primary. he lost to the Democrat on Tues yet Indiana is solidly a "red" state.
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Not only that, he won by five and a half points.

Anybody who thinks the solution is to put "real conservatives" on the ballot in the future is only giving power back to the Democratic party.
 
#103
#103
milohimself said:
Not only that, he won by five and a half points.

Anybody who thinks the solution is to put "real conservatives" on the ballot in the future is only giving power back to the Democratic party.
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And giving power to the Democratic party in both executive and legislative branches will send the US down the path of Greece.
 
#106
#106
The Rs need to nominate a true fiscal conservative who will just say "social issues are state issues" and leave it at that.
 
#107
#107
hog88 said:
The Rs need to nominate a true fiscal conservative who will just say "social issues are state issues" and leave it at that.
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Seems like some crazy, old Texan going for the R ticket was around for the primaries along these lines.

Hint, wasn't Rick Perry.
 
#109
#109
OldandStillaVol said:
The counterexample to that logic is the Senate race in Indiana. Mordoch was a true conservative and beat the moderate Lugar easily in the primary. he lost to the Democrat on Tues yet Indiana is solidly a "red" state.
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People who adhere to that logic don't want to hear about how they are wrong.

They have Jesus and God on their side. Anything we say is ultimately inferior.
 
#110
#110
hog88 said:
The Rs need to nominate a true fiscal conservative who will just say "social issues are state issues" and leave it at that.
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My Lord, there was such a candidate in the GOP this year.

The conservatives on this board ran him out of town.

Ever wonder if he would have won with the backing of the GOP?
 
#112
#112
PKT_VOL said:
My Lord, there was such a candidate in the GOP this year.

The conservatives on this board ran him out of town.

Ever wonder if he would have won with the backing of the GOP?
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Wait, who are we talking about?

I remember the Republican primary poll taken here... there was overwhelming support for Paul.
 
#113
#113
DinkinFlicka said:
Wait, who are we talking about?

I remember the Republican primary poll taken here... there was overwhelming support for Paul.
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Most of that support was from moderates and Libertarians on the board. Conservatives did not go for him.
 
#115
#115
BigPapaVol said:
not sure if serious.
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Real conservatives, true, however you want to call it. I've seen more than a few people fault the GOP for having a wishy-washy Massachusetts moderate at the top of the ticket. There were a good number of states this year where the GOP did put up a genuine across-the-board conservative, and lost most of them. Missouri, Indiana, North Dakota, Montana. Granted most of those had a Dem nominee closer to a blue dog, but these aren't exactly Democratic strongholds.

The types on here like marcus who think the GOP needs to cling to and reinforce the message of social conservatism (and there are many, many more like him in the Republican ranks) are going to drag down their own party -- and fiscal conservatism along with it.
 
#116
#116
If the GOP knows what's good for them, they will be making a massive push to change state laws across the country to open primaries here for the midterms, and allow for more social moderates to win the nod. They can't survive if guys like Mourdock and Akin run.
 
#117
#117
milohimself said:
The types on here like marcus who think the GOP needs to cling to and reinforce the message of social conservatism (and there are many, many more like him in the Republican ranks) are going to drag down their own party -- and fiscal conservatism along with it.
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That generation's fading. I think the GOP will drastically change in the next couple of decades.
 
#120
#120
DinkinFlicka said:
We're seeing more involvement from the youth, which is roughly 70-30 in favor of Liberalism. The involvement from the older crowd can't really increase in the GOP's favor.
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I dunno about that. My generation, I am 25, has a heck of a lot of Libertarian ideals. The problem generally is that they do not realize that they are Libertarians.
 
#121
#121
PKT_VOL said:
I dunno about that. My generation, I am 25, has a heck of a lot of Libertarian ideals. The problem generally is that they do not realize that they are Libertarians.
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I can second the notion that a lot of people in my generation are more libertarian than most other generations still voting.

That being said though, most college aged kids are still more liberal than libertarian overall.
 
#122
#122
PKT_VOL said:
I dunno about that. My generation, I am 25, has a heck of a lot of Libertarian ideals. The problem generally is that they do not realize that they are Libertarians.
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Basing this off the demographics of the past 8 years. I'm in my twenties as well, and I honestly don't know what I subscribe to. I tend to agree with the libertarian viewpoint. However, I've seen a godawful amount of folks who claim the same alignment, and it's not the case (not you, of course. I like your posts and your opinions are well-formulated).

It's cool to be anything but a Republican these days.
 
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#123
#123
DinkinFlicka said:
Basing this off the demographics of the past 8 years. I'm in my twenties as well, and I honestly don't know what I subscribe to. I tend to agree with the libertarian viewpoint. However, I've seen a godawful amount of folks who claim the same alignment, and it's not the case (not you, of course. I like your posts).

It's cool to be anything but a Republican these days.
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LOL. I think I would vote libertarian if a candidate with a actual chance of election came along. Without that happening, all I would do is pad the GOP lead since it would take a vote away from a Dem in most instances imo.
 
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