Dooley's Losses over the past three years....

#26
#26
nashvol1 said:
Look at the competition. Of course he had a losing record two of the years. The list is only schools considered pretty good. Originally posted by someone on scout.


2007 (Record: 5-7)

Lost to Hawaii 45-44 (OT)
Lost at Cal 42-12 (who beat us that year too)
Lost at Fresno State 17-6
Lost at Ole Miss 24-0
Lost to Boise State 45-31
Lost at LSU 58-10

2008 (Record: 8-5)

Beat Miss. St. 22-14
Lost at Kansas 29-0
Lost at Boise St. 38-3
Lost at Hawaii 24-14
Beat Fresno State 38-35
Beat Northern Illinois in Independence Bowl 17-10 (a team we barely beat that year)

2009 (Record 4-8)

Lost to Auburn 37-13
Lost to Boise State 45-35
Lost to LSU 24-16

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Who were the other eight losses to? And why didn't you list those too? Because they were crap teams?
 
#27
#27
utvols1975 said:
Gene Chizik's winning percentage at Iowa St was pretty horrible too, but Auburn fans seem happy with their admin's choice after a full year and a New Years Day bowl win.

Remember Chizik getting verbally plastered when he got off the plane in Auburn? Hmmmm, sounds like what Dooley's getting on these threads right now.
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So ... You think hiring someone who can, hopefully, aspire to the [FILL IN THE BLANK] Bowl (Remember ... You can't spell Citrus without U-T) is what will excite the 100,000+ fans that are asked to pay big bucks to watch the Orange in person?

Dude!!
 
#30
#30
lets look at his wins last year..
he beat
Hawaii record 6-7
Nicholls state 3-8
New Mexico State 3-10
San jose State 2-10
so he coached them to no wins over a team with a .500 record finished 6th in the mighty wac and i guess the win over hawaii is the only win over a somewhat equally matched team and all his wins were at home. nice
If your going to hire a coach from a mid major school shouldn't you look for, I don't know a winner? someone who elevates the play of his team gets more outta less
 
#32
#32
spudvol said:
So when Boise St goes undefeated in the WAC it's because the conference is weak and when Dooley goes 12-12 in conference play it's because the WAC is tough?
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good point,we better search some more.we will get no recruits if dooley comes here to coach.how many professional players played for dooley,lol,at thise hire.
 
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#33
nashvol1 said:
A better analysis would be to also look at level of competition. However, this is good information.

They played seven bowl teams this year.
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That, and im sure La Tech isnt chocked with a lot of 4&5* guys.

After checking La Tech site, zero 4 or 5*., 80% 2* 20% 3*.

They say he is a great recruiter. I guess its just tough to bring them to Tech.
 
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#34
#34
after looking at some recruiting rankings from years past this looks even worse, granted that rankings dont mean much but la tech is normally between 70 and 80 in the recruiting rankings which is actually very high for the wac the only other wac schools that are in the same range are boise and hawaii sometimes higher sometimes lower. yet dooley coached them to a mighty 4-8 record with arguably comparable talent to boise and above average talent compared to the rest of the wac
 
#35
#35
core545 said:
after looking at some recruiting rankings from years past this looks even worse, granted that rankings dont mean much but la tech is normally between 70 and 80 in the recruiting rankings which is actually very high for the wac the only other wac schools that are in the same range are boise and hawaii sometimes higher sometimes lower. yet dooley coached them to a mighty 4-8 record with arguably comparable talent to boise and above average talent compared to the rest of the wac
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That all depends on how accurate you think that garbage talent scale is. He also helped bring in the #1 class at LSU, and he has worked with NFL talent.
 
#36
#36
core545 said:
after looking at some recruiting rankings from years past this looks even worse, granted that rankings dont mean much but la tech is normally between 70 and 80 in the recruiting rankings which is actually very high for the wac the only other wac schools that are in the same range are boise and hawaii sometimes higher sometimes lower. yet dooley coached them to a mighty 4-8 record with arguably comparable talent to boise and above average talent compared to the rest of the wac
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I think there should be a asterisk beside the last season (2009).

They lost five in a row by a combine score of 26 points.

They had so many injuries that at one point they had 18 freshman and sophmores listed on the two deep chart.

Records don't exactlly tell the whole story.
 
#38
#38
my point is its his responsibilty to recruit to compete in his conference, I know the tx,la, miss area has alot more players than utah, idaho and what ever other wastelands are in the wac to recruit from yet la tech was 4-8 with a 6th place finish in the wac in his 3rd year it just doesn't look like a good sign at all to me if you can't win in the wac how can you expect great success in the sec. I was just looking at rivals rankings to get an idea of how much his la tech teams were really that overmatched in the wac i know rankings dont mean much but they do give you a general idea of the quality of players on the team
 
#39
#39
core545 said:
after looking at some recruiting rankings from years past this looks even worse, granted that rankings dont mean much but la tech is normally between 70 and 80 in the recruiting rankings which is actually very high for the wac the only other wac schools that are in the same range are boise and hawaii sometimes higher sometimes lower. yet dooley coached them to a mighty 4-8 record with arguably comparable talent to boise and above average talent compared to the rest of the wac
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Um......What? Care to explain that one a bit?
 
#40
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utvols1975 said:
Gene Chizik's winning percentage at Iowa St was pretty horrible too, but Auburn fans seem happy with their admin's choice after a full year and a New Years Day bowl win.

Remember Chizik getting verbally plastered when he got off the plane in Auburn? Hmmmm, sounds like what Dooley's getting on these threads right now.
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Chizik couldn't hold Saban's jock.
 
#41
#41
Roughneck said:
Um......What? Care to explain that one a bit?
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I know rivals recruiting rankings dont mean much but they are on the same level as far as recruiting rankings go some years they were a couple spots below boise some years they had a higher rankings as far as that goes they are comparable what happens as far as player development and scheme and results they are not
 
#43
#43
tvolsfan said:
Give me a break. I don't want to hear everyone telling me I'm not a true Vols fan and I have to follow Dooley with blind optimism. Urban Meyer and Nick Saban will beat this guy like a pinata.​
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I understand what you're saying,but what are we going to do? Unless you just stop being a Vol fan we have to back the team,even if we don't like the coach.
 
#44
#44
wow... La Tech averaged 20 ppg in their 8-5 season.!!! We are going to be an offensive jugernaut in the SEC!!!
 
#45
#45
I hate to knock my school, but let me fill y'all in a bit:

- Recruiting in our area is incredibly difficult, we have to compete against some pretty legendary schools. Until we hired Dooley, we couldn't recruit key players as effectively. We have just began to build our talent and depth in recent years.
- This year's losing record is due mostly to injuries among key players (google will verify).
- Games this year and last were much closer then scores may indicate, we had problems closing games because of our lack of depth and stamina on the field. We burned some of our redshirts due to injuries. So we had true freshmen out on the field!!
- Our quarterback sucks. Ask any bulldawgs fan. We've been screaming to bench Jenkins all year.


Basically, when I started at Tech, we wouldn't have been able to put points on LSU (no matter how well they were doing that year) or put the most points on Boise then any team all season (fact!!).

Numbers don't tell the full story, trust me.
 
#46
#46
Very disappointing finish to the coaching search. It is hard to accept that this is the best choice. Top programs require top coaches. He is not a top coach. Maybe he will become one.
 
#47
#47
LATech2010 said:
I hate to knock my school, but let me fill y'all in a bit:

- Recruiting in our area is incredibly difficult, we have to compete against some pretty legendary schools. Until we hired Dooley, we couldn't recruit key players as effectively. We have just began to build our talent and depth in recent years.
- This year's losing record is due mostly to injuries among key players (google will verify).
- Games this year and last were much closer then scores may indicate, we had problems closing games because of our lack of depth and stamina on the field. We burned some of our redshirts due to injuries. So we had true freshmen out on the field!!
- Our quarterback sucks. Ask any bulldawgs fan. We've been screaming to bench Jenkins all year.


Basically, when I started at Tech, we wouldn't have been able to put points on LSU (no matter how well they were doing that year) or put the most points on Boise then any team all season (fact!!).

Numbers don't tell the full story, trust me.
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first off la tech isn't competing with the legendary schools from that area for recruits because LSU, Texas etc isn't going after the same players that la tech has on their radar, la tech recruits players that are left overs from the bigger schools in the area but that area is a hotbed for good players and alot do fall thru the cracks if you can find them its alot easier to find a good player in that area than say idaho or utah state both of whom beat la tech. Numbers may not tell the whole story but every team has injuries in football and sometimes win and losses are the whole story dooley took over a program that had 3 wins the season before and he left them with 4wins his last season thats not improving and we are talking about coaching in the freakin WAC when was the last time boise even lost a wac game
 
#48
#48
nashvol1 said:
Look at the competition. Of course he had a losing record two of the years. The list is only schools considered pretty good. Originally posted by someone on scout.


2007 (Record: 5-7)

Lost to Hawaii 45-44 (OT)
Lost at Cal 42-12 (who beat us that year too)
Lost at Fresno State 17-6
Lost at Ole Miss 24-0
Lost to Boise State 45-31
Lost at LSU 58-10

2008 (Record: 8-5)

Beat Miss. St. 22-14
Lost at Kansas 29-0
Lost at Boise St. 38-3
Lost at Hawaii 24-14
Beat Fresno State 38-35
Beat Northern Illinois in Independence Bowl 17-10 (a team we barely beat that year)

2009 (Record 4-8)

Lost to Auburn 37-13
Lost to Boise State 45-35
Lost to LSU 24-16

Puts it into perspective a little
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You should see the forum, 6 reasons to back Dooley. It brings this all into perspective.
 
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