Dooley's Future Based on Season Scenarios

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#26
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volroadwarrior said:
Dave Hart is not going to fire Dooley for the next 2 years unless the program becomes a complete disaster. Sorry, Dooley detractors, neither season will be disasters. Progress is evident and will result in improvements and more wins this and next season. The hate Dooley crowd will have to wait and hope for big embarrassing losses for their wishes to come true.
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If this is true then they might as well drag the black curtains over to Neyland from TBA.
 
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Yankee_Vol said:
So going from 6-7 (3-5) to 5-7 (1-7) is progress? :crazy:
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is having all fresh and soph players with no depth and then having your top players go down for the season a fair way to judge any coach? especially in the SEC :crazy:

Seriously.. give it a rest and lets see what happens this season.

I will be the first on here to admit I was wrong and help CDD pack his bags if we have another bad season. But let the guy get at least one season with a full deck of cards before we condemn him.

Anything else is just delusional, and deep down even the fire dooley crowd has to be able to see that, no matter how bad they try to ignore it.
 
#29
#29
Dooley will be back if we win 8 games...doesn't matter who we lose to or how we lose.
 
#32
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OCIVol said:
Dooley will be back if we win 8 games...doesn't matter who we lose to or how we lose.
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I think you're correct, but if those 4 losses are UGA, SC, Bama and UF and all of the defeats are fairly decisive, then recruiting will continue to suffer as the hot seat talk continues for yet another year. Depending on who leaves for the NFL, who rotates onto the schedule from the SEC West and whether the Vols buy out the Oregon game 2013 could be brutal. I've opined that Dooley can probably save his job with any winning record in the regular season and the bowl game can be a throw away but if he's going to elevate the program at all he needs to pull some significant upsets.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
Dave Hart is not going to fire Dooley for the next 2 years unless the program becomes a complete disaster. Sorry, Dooley detractors, neither season will be disasters. Progress is evident and will result in improvements and more wins this and next season. The hate Dooley crowd will have to wait and hope for big embarrassing losses for their wishes to come true.
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"progress is evident". where might this progress be. the last time a dooley coached team was on the field we lost to kentucky. hope we have progress but saying progress is evident is looking out of those orange tinted glasses. we just replaced a whole assistant coaching staff that has never coached a game together. the love dooley crowd will actually have to wait till he produces something before any streets are renamed.
 
#36
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I don't consider scenarios where we lose to UGA relevant. It is an expectation that we beat them unless we are horrendous (which we were but we aren't) or they have herschel walker (which they don't).

Please make a new poll.
 
#37
#37
Folks need to come to grips with the idea that Hart isn't firing Dooley if the Vols go 8-4 this year. I don't know if Dooley is the guy for the job but imo 8 wins probably won't get him fired and it really doesn't tell us much other than he won the games he was supposed to. We win fewer than 8 feel free to purchase some commerative footballs for Kirby Smart to autograph. We've already hired most of Bama's staff. Seems obvious that this is the exit strategy as it maintains staff continuity.

Quite honestly with UF being down, USC & UGA being good but not world beaters, and Arky & LSU off the schedule the baseline should be 9 wins. There need to be some wins in the SEC-East that signal the Vols return. Squeeking out a win versus a Florida team at it's lowest point in a generation isn't enough. We need to steal a game from UGA, USC, or even Bama. Beating the bottom teams in the SEC was what we were supposed to be able to do last year. Simply beating MSU, Vandy, UK, & Mizzou, in addition to our mediocre ooc schedule, ain't gonna cut it.
 
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#39
There is so much hate on CDD it's unreal, not many if any at all could have done a better job with what they had. I agree he must preform this season with all the talent he has but I can guarantee if he doesn't get 8 wins he will be here next year 7 wins 6 wins he is gonna be here. He has turned this program around and has it on the right path. You people that put Dooley down couldn't do half the job he did. Quit wasting your time and space on here with your negative topics and support your team. I can't wait til dooley shut all of you up. Go Vols!! and Go DOOLEY!!
 
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wallsjm1 said:
There is so much hate on CDD it's unreal, not many if any at all could have done a better job with what they had. I agree he must preform this season with all the talent he has but I can guarantee if he doesn't get 8 wins he will be here next year 7 wins 6 wins he is gonna be here. He has turned this program around and has it on the right path. You people that put Dooley down couldn't do half the job he did. Quit wasting your time and space on here with your negative topics and support your team. I can't wait til dooley shut all of you up. Go Vols!! and Go DOOLEY!!
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I actually like Dooley however I scratch my head every freakin time someone says this. By what metric do folks make this statement? Classroom success? On field success? Seriously I want to know.
 
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I've been saying all along he should be gone with anything less than 9 wins, IMO, but I think he's here next year with 8 unless for some reason he starts out the year strong and finishes horribly.
 
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Yankee_Vol said:
So going from 6-7 (3-5) to 5-7 (1-7) is progress? :crazy:
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This makes me see Sgt. Carter yelling at Gomer...."You knuckle head! You lame brain!"

variables Yankee...injuries to key personnel and zero depth will do that to a team. You guys that struggle to see this should take a look at the number of Vols drafted the last two years...compared to the past it's anorexic
 
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#45
#45
Voldemonium said:
I actually like Dooley however I scratch my head every freakin time someone says this. By what metric do folks make this statement? Classroom success? On field success? Seriously I want to know.
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He inherited a roster void of any playmakers or game changers...how hard is it for you to see this? Are you 12 years old? If not, then you should be able to see the difference in the type of players he inherited versus those of years past. How many times have you seen more than one freshman play significant snaps on the Oline at TN....and be successful? When was the last time the Vols had a starting QB on the level of Simms? What about two freshman LBs....or the best LB on the team being a walk on?

he's upgarded both the level of talent and depth...last year's schedule was murder on top of the injuries...it's not rocket science
 
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#47
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ImportedVoL said:
None of those make any sense..

we beat florida but then lose to mizzou or miss st?

bama, usce and UGA are the three swing games, we are going to destroy everyone else on the schedule.

and then 1 of those 3 games we are going to win.. to make it a 10 win season

and don't come at me with how many games swing that is or some other negavol junk, talking about how we played last year. It has no bearing on this years team, which is united and ready kick some arse in the SEC.
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This.
 
#48
#48
8 wins buys him another year in my book, regardless of who the wins come against. Anything less than 8 should get him fired, the time for excuses has come and gone.

BTW, scenario 3 isn't even plausible. No team that is capable of losing to Miss. St. is also capable of beating both Florida and SC, and playing Alabama to a 1-point loss.
 
#49
#49
I'd be more interested to see some 7-5 scenarios with big wins against rivals. I'll try one.

NC State-31-28 L

Georgia State 45-10 W

UF 28-24 W

Akron 48-13 W

UGA 27-20 L

Miss State 30-27 L

Bama 35-31 W

Carolina 28-27 L

Troy 42-13 W

Mizz 35-31 L

Vandy 31-13 W

UK 43-14 W

Music city bowl- UT 31 GTech 14

This has us winning 1 we shouldnt and losing 2 we shouldnt.

Wins over UF and Bama with a 8-5 record. stay or go?
 
#50
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brianlsanders said:
I'd be more interested to see some 7-5 scenarios with big wins against rivals. I'll try one.

NC State-31-28 L

Georgia State 45-10 W

UF 28-24 W

Akron 48-13 W

UGA 27-20 L

Miss State 30-27 L

Bama 35-31 W

Carolina 28-27 L

Troy 42-13 W

Mizz 35-31 L

Vandy 31-13 W

UK 43-14 W

Music city bowl- UT 31 GTech 14

This has us winning 1 we shouldnt and losing 2 we shouldnt.

Wins over UF and Bama with a 8-5 record. stay or go?
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No team capable of beating Alabama and Florida is also capable of losing to NC State, Miss St. and Missouri.
 
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