Dooley will not release Bryce Brown to Kansas State (Confirmed)

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Vol2424 said:
I still think there is more to this than we know , but all of it could have been avoided if Dooley had not given him the option to return once he left before Spring. In other words , what you said about Saban.
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That would have felt more principled than does this.
 
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Vol2424 said:
I still think there is more to this than we know , but all of it could have been avoided if Dooley had not given him the option to return once he left before Spring. In other words , what you said about Saban.
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Yea I agree he shouldn't have even had the option to return, but I think Dooley left that up to the seniors and they said it would be fine for him to come back. I def don't think that any of those coaches release Bryce.
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KeithStone said:
Yea I agree he shouldn't have even had the option to return, but I think Dooley left that up to the seniors and they said it would be fine for him to come back. I def don't think that any of those coaches release Bryce.
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Kicking him off the team is releasing him.
 
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utmba93 said:
That would have felt more principled than does this.
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For us who don't know the whole story , I agree.

What we have is Dooley and Bryce talking about who knows what and Authur demanding that his son get's a release.

Everytime I think this is over something new comes out about it. I , just like many of you just wish this would end. However it turns out. Just something final would be nice to hear.
 
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Vol2424 said:
For us who don't know the whole story , I agree.

What we have is Dooley and Bryce talking about who knows what and Authur demanding that his son get's a release.

Evertime I think this is over something new comes out about it. I , just like many of you just wish this would end. However it turns out. Just something final would be nice to hear.
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True, but 'those of us who don't know the whole story' form the court of public opinion. And, that is the court that's starting to matter most in this scenario.
 
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utmba93 said:
Kicking him off the team is releasing him.
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I understand that, but you shouldn't realease the kid just because he wants to be released which is what I've gathered from your posts. Bryce should have been kicked off for not attending any workouts or practices this summer. He shouldn't be released just because that's what he wants.
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hatvol96 said:
True. Clowns like you believe in a system where million dollar employees can come and go as they please but college students are held hostage at the whim of the school. Brilliant logic. Then again, I would expect nothing less from you.
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So? You sound like LG. Quit being a priss.
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utmba93 said:
True, but 'those of us who don't know the whole story' form the court of public opinion. And, that is the court that's starting to matter most in this scenario.
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Well said. However , with a coach like Dooley (who deals with things much like Saban) I doubt the court of public opinion will hear the truth until it's final.
 
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volconomist said:
While I commend your civility during this thread, Dooley himself said it didn't matter whether Brown asked for a release, he wasn't getting one.
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Just one question...why exactly does it matter if he gets the release or not? This question can be asked of both sides of the debate. He can still go wherever he wants to go. CDD doesn't have to release him and he can still go to KSU. This isn't the first time someone has been denied a release. If BB does in fact want to go to KSU(and it isn't just family pressure--i.e. his dad) then he can still go and not worry about what CDD does or doesn't do. At this point his silence speaks volumes on the matter IMO. It has all been his dad so I kind of get the feeling that the entire ordeal has been conjured up by his WAY TOO INVOLVED father. Bryce is a man now...cut the cord and let him live his own life.
 
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SGMVols said:
Exactly. If Dooley's plan was to deny the release regardless of what Brown did, he shouldn't be blaming anyone in the Brown camp.
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Who exactly is he blaming in the Brown camp? I honestly haven't heard. He said the situation hadn't been handled with professionalism and that factored into CDD's decision to deny the release. He isn't placing blame. There is just very little info out there on the matter and I'm sure a lot of it is just misinformation ATP.
 
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volconomist said:
I gave you the link you requested. For completeness, here it is again.

Brown will not be released from scholarship GoVolsXtra
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You keep linking this article and it doesn't say anywhere that he was going to be denied a release regardless of what BB did. CDD does say that following though:

Per the GVX story you have so frequently quoted:

"As with the other players who have asked for a release, I went through the same process with the same criteria with Bryce," Dooley said. "These are the three key factors - what their personal investment into the program was, did they have their heart into it and did they give it a good, fair shot. No. 2, the harm that their departure creates for the organization. No. 3, how they handle it as a professional.
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LINK:
Brown will not be released from scholarship GoVolsXtra
 
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If this thread ever goes beyond arguing, and actually brings new information to the table, please start a new thread. It's not worth the time to sift through this.
 
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50YearsAVol said:
Synopsis: Based upon Coach Dooley’s criteria, the decision made was in the best interest of the team. If Bryce Brown lacks the intestinal fortitude to personally ask for a release, he does not deserve a release. It sounds to me like Daddy is pulling the strings on this deal. I believe if the decision were left to Bryce Brown, he would have been on the field during Spring practice.

Coach made the right call.
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How exactly is this in the best interest of the team?
 
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ljeller said:
Just one question...why exactly does it matter if he gets the release or not? This question can be asked of both sides of the debate. He can still go wherever he wants to go. CDD doesn't have to release him and he can still go to KSU. This isn't the first time someone has been denied a release. If BB does in fact want to go to KSU(and it isn't just family pressure--i.e. his dad) then he can still go and not worry about what CDD does or doesn't do. At this point his silence speaks volumes on the matter IMO. It has all been his dad so I kind of get the feeling that the entire ordeal has been conjured up by his WAY TOO INVOLVED father. Bryce is a man now...cut the cord and let him live his own life.
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About $15,000 is what it matters.
 
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SamQB7 said:
Because he laid down his criteria for transfer and Bryce didn't meet it. Neither did laimason so his didn't get his approval
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I still don't see how it's in the best interest of the team. I think it'd be funny as hell if both of these guys show up for fall camp, become cancers in the locker room, tear the team apart and force coach britches to kick them off the team.
 
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utmba93 said:
That's the part I'm not following. It seems like Dooley turned a win-win into a lose-lose scenario.

When it comes time to punt the ball, I hope he has the fortitude to do that.
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It says that if you sign to play for UT, you better mean it. This wishy-washy crap isnt gonna stand.

When you make a commitment, you better stand by it.
 
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