Dooley will not release Bryce Brown to Kansas State (Confirmed)

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#651
Sounds like his dad is running interference. Seems like Dooley would just cut bait with Brown and be done with it. I guess he has his reason for not releasing him, but if his heart isn't in it, move on.
 
#652
#652
The Brown family better start doing some serious calculating and start kissing CDD's butt....pronto. Sitting out a year could cost a lot of money. NFL money. If BB eventually proves to have NFL abilities he will have lost a year of his natural NFL playing years. NFL backs usually don't have such long careers and a year of prime athletic lifetime spent sitting on a porch in Kansas doesn't pay real well . If he eventually proves to be worth $10 million a year in the NFL he will then, by natures attrition, have lost one of those years not playing nothing and letting father time roll on while he was speculating on what might have been in Tennessee.
 
#653
#653
I think if Bryce would have asked for a release when he first left the team, this would not be an issue. The fact that he keep it going on for so long is what has got him to this point. JMO.
 
#654
#654
agree with dooley 100%! but for people to say dooley is screwing this kid is ridiculous. He can still go to k-state. sit his yr and have at it. I could care less!!!!! poole needs to hang a towel from his waist band in the front that says "bryce who?" an one in the back that stays "kiff can kiss it"! With all this drama over a player not even on our team, hopes are high that poole takes it personal and explodes on the field!!
 
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#655
I've never seen so much over analyzing of any situation as this in this thread.. every possible scenario has been stated and I bet I didn't read 10% of the posts. :)

Best to not believe what either side is saying IMO. doubt either are telling everything. If they did, doubt it is as complicated as many are making it. :wink2:
 
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LWSVOL said:
so you are not in favor of Tennessee taking transfers like Matt Simms and so on..
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I am going to lump that ignorant question with 99's attempts to stir the pot.

Completely different case and why would we not take a juco transfer? Key Word - JUCO!!!

Further more, you speak like you know that Louisville would have taken him back.
 
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LWSVOL said:
I've never seen so much over analyzing of any situation as this in this thread.. every possible scenario has been stated and I bet I didn't read 10% of the posts. :)

Best to not believe what either side is saying IMO. doubt either are telling everything. If they did, doubt it is as complicated as many are making it. :wink2:
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So why the dog and pony show? Release him and move on.
 
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run4vols said:
I think if Bryce would have asked for a release when he first left the team, this would not be an issue. The fact that he keep it going on for so long is what has got him to this point. JMO.
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it's bizarre how long it has dragged out ...

the media in knoxville are giving it to dooley this morning for being apparently less than truthful about what happened ..
 
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zjcvols said:
I have nothing on this, but this is just my opinion:

Bryce is telling Dooley that he wants out, but CDD knows (whether by a member of the team, instinct, etc.) that he wants to stay. Bryce is just doing what he feels would make his dad happy. I understand that from a 19-year old, and I understand if he is doing that. But if Bryce wants to be here, he needs to tell his Dad, "I need to do this on my own."
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Plausible, in my opinion. However, the others in here will probably argue this end over end because they believe that just the opposite happened.
 
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LWSVOL said:
I've never seen so much over analyzing of any situation as this in this thread.. every possible scenario has been stated and I bet I didn't read 10% of the posts. :)

Best to not believe what either side is saying IMO. doubt either are telling everything. If they did, doubt it is as complicated as many are making it. :wink2:
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please stop making sense. There are a few on here that just can't handle it!!:)
 
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dan4vols said:
Is it just me or are some of Volnations posters defending BB rather than the Volunteers team for a personal agenda? Are you a Vols fan or a Bryce Brown fan?
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It's not just you..

Excellent point by the way.
 
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VKAman said:
...so we should block every scholarship player that wants to transfer? We should have kept ol' B.J. around, too, because we spent money on him. It's not like every school plans on paying for 85 scholarship players, or anything. Every one is just a HUGE irreplaceable deal.
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CDD wasn't here when BJ left. Also, there were 3 things CDD stated for his release

1. What was your personal investment into progam?

2. What is the harm your departure causes program?

3. How did you handle situation as a person?

Sounds like to me its a case by case basis. BB will have to answer the above questions himself.
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Daddy Gee said:
it's bizarre how long it has dragged out ...

the media in knoxville are giving it to dooley this morning for being apparently less than truthful about what happened ..
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Although I think it's unlikely. CDD may be forced to address this publicly.
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#664
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In the immortal words of Vince Lombardi..........

"What the hell is going on out there?"
 
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Orange Studs said:
I agree, but I don't think it is really going to matter to a hand full on this board.
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You can say that, and it's true, but it doesn't look good that you're preaching character constantly and then lie to everyone else about a harmless meeting.
 
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zjcvols said:
You can say that, and it's true, but it doesn't look good that you're preaching character constantly and then lie to everyone else about a harmless meeting.
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How do we know it was harmless? In your above situation it would hardly be harmless, maybe he didn't want to go home and tell his father he didn't ask for a release. Just another possible scenario to add to the fire
 
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zjcvols said:
You can say that, and it's true, but it doesn't look good that you're preaching character constantly and then lie to everyone else about a harmless meeting.
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So you have proof that Dooley is lying?

Don't believe everything you read.

Pac 16 and Big 16 baby! Oh wait...
 
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zjcvols said:
You can say that, and it's true, but it doesn't look good that you're preaching character constantly and then lie to everyone else about a harmless meeting.
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See, you just made my point! You can believe BB's dad over CDD, that is your choice, but all this over a guy that deserted his teammates. Where were you when lame lied?Why now?
 
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zjcvols said:
You can say that, and it's true, but it doesn't look good that you're preaching character constantly and then lie to everyone else about a harmless meeting.
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How did he lie?

He was asked if he planned on meeting with brown on Monday or Tuesday and he said no


He was asked if he had a meeting with brown about a release.

Last I checked none of those happened... its not Dooleys fault that the media didnt know about a meeting Saturday which apparently wasn't a meeting about brown's future or brown would've asked for a release.
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vol_in_il said:
agreed
Dooley should be thankful hambone was in enough of a rush to hire him
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And what effect would his decision (no release) versus yours (release anybody who asks for it) have on the next five guys who get a little homesick? The next ten? On your team, they're all gone. On CDD's team at least some of them stick it out and contribute. How about the kid who's girlfriend is at a different school and who decides he might like to be there?

Yeah, your plan is clearly well thought-out. :crazy:
 
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chuck0303 said:
Too much he said she said. Life is not fair and there are consequences in life for everything you do, some pleasant, some not so pleasant. At what point in BBs life should he start "learning" responsibility and accountability? Should he follow Albert Haynesworth's current example of acting like a spoiled child, staying out of training camp, and showing up out of condition, and expecting the Redskins to just roll over and keep paying him for being selfish? Or should he follow Kiffin's example of messing with the Titan's contracts and expect no "consequences", LOL, who now finds himself and his organization in court. Not taking sides on any of these examples just pointing out that life is full of actions/reactions/consequences. I fully support Dooley and trust his judgement. I first suspect Dooley is looking out for UT's organization and not trying to set or break a precedent. As another poster said, he may very well be trying to help Bryce get out from under Bryces' dad's gun. Whether it's Bryce or someone else, how about supporting the rules and trust the coaches for a change instead of being a bleeding heart liberal. I guess serving in the military for 21+ years does that to a person (me) where you think of duty, responsibility, honor, responsibility, leadership by example, commitment. Let the coaches do their job for goodness sake. Soapbox is now open.
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:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:
 
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