Dooley says bowl wouldn't have helped us anyway

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Brent Hubbs
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In the post game, head coach Derek Dooley said a bowl game wouldn't have necessarily helped his program, saying his team didn't deserve it and a bowl game would have provided a false reality for players in the program.
Tuesday, Dooley was in the office after being on the road on Monday. He will head back out of the office to recruit on today. But while Dooley is in the office and while he's traveling from home to home and school to school, Dooley only has one focus. It's on 2012. It's about being better next year on the field. It's in trying to build a better team in the locker room.

It's on trying to get a group of what will be sophomores and juniors to lead each other out of "rock bottom" and start what Dooley called the climb back. It's on figuring out what he needs to do to make his staff trust each other more.

And he can focus on it without a game getting in the way. Today, there's no prep for N.C. State or Wake Forest in a bowl game. There's no practice schedule to prepare and there's no press conference to hold. There's nothing to distract him or give him or anyone else any false sense of reality. All that's staring at him is how does he fix the things he said needed to be fixed. How does he get a staff to trust each other more? How does he get players to become leaders? What are these changes that need to be made --- the ones that Dooley spoke of on his Sunday TV show?
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#128
#128
Funny that Dooley said last year making a bowl game was huge with the extra practices. This year, it really doesn't help. Coaches sure know how to put a different spin on things don't they?
 
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VolsFanRJ said:
Funny that Dooley said last year making a bowl game was huge with the extra practices. This year, it really doesn't help. Coaches sure know how to put a different spin on things don't they?
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not all situations are the same. If there is a locker room rift then maybe a few more weeks of practice would have destroyed this team. No way of knowing what he truly meant with the statement
 
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rexvol said:
Brent Hubbs
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In the post game, head coach Derek Dooley said a bowl game wouldn't have necessarily helped his program, saying his team didn't deserve it and a bowl game would have provided a false reality for players in the program.
Tuesday, Dooley was in the office after being on the road on Monday. He will head back out of the office to recruit on today. But while Dooley is in the office and while he's traveling from home to home and school to school, Dooley only has one focus. It's on 2012. It's about being better next year on the field. It's in trying to build a better team in the locker room.

It's on trying to get a group of what will be sophomores and juniors to lead each other out of "rock bottom" and start what Dooley called the climb back. It's on figuring out what he needs to do to make his staff trust each other more.

And he can focus on it without a game getting in the way. Today, there's no prep for N.C. State or Wake Forest in a bowl game. There's no practice schedule to prepare and there's no press conference to hold. There's nothing to distract him or give him or anyone else any false sense of reality. All that's staring at him is how does he fix the things he said needed to be fixed. How does he get a staff to trust each other more? How does he get players to become leaders? What are these changes that need to be made --- the ones that Dooley spoke of on his Sunday TV show?
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Interesting take from a head coach. Sounds like Bray and Rogers weren't the only ones that didn't wanna play in a rinky dink bowl.
 
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iVol4Life said:
You waste every breath of your miserable existence making biased and - at times - faulty claims towards a man who has been put in one of the worst coaching positions in a very long time without giving yourselves adequate time to make a fair assessment based upon 2012, which is what most rational human beings decided they would do when Dooley was hired. Instead, after losing one damn football game, you constantly spam the board with your mindless drivel that, in essence, is merely a reiteration of "the sky is falling" with little depth and even fewer facts, while attacking anyone who believes otherwise. As a whole, your intelligence is equivalent to that of Terrence Cody's left boob, and it disgusts me.
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Well f'n said!
 
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#133
Sounds like DD is down o n this team as well. Who in the hell says a bowl game won't help? I never heard that before.
 
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Not making a bowl game is peripheral to the real issue: breaking a 26-year streak by losing in humiliating fashion to a horrible UK team with no QB. Win the game, and even the most disgruntled fans would have been willing to wait and see next year; play like you don't care, then insinuate that losing was actually a good thing, and see how quickly you've alienated half your fanbase. That streak may not have mattered much to the team and coaches, but it meant a lot to a significant section of the fanbase, and downplaying its importance just escalates the discontent and widens the rift.
 
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Dooley also said "There is a silver lining to every situation, no matter how bad it is" in that interview. That is all this is. We didn't make a bowl game, no sense in sitting around moaning and *****ing about it. Just go back to work on what positives can be gleaned from it. Increased focus on recruiting, and staff communication, and S&C. Jeez, you people are great at leaving out context.
 
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LA Vol said:
Not making a bowl game is peripheral to the real issue: breaking a 26-year streak by losing in humiliating fashion to a horrible UK team with no QB. Win the game, and even the most disgruntled fans would have been willing to wait and see next year; play like you don't care, then insinuate that losing was actually a good thing, and see how quickly you've alienated half your fanbase. That streak may not have mattered much to the team and coaches, but it meant a lot to a significant section of the fanbase, and downplaying its importance just escalates the discontent and widens the rift.
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Yep.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Dooley also said "There is a silver lining to every situation, no matter how bad it is" in that interview. That is all this is. We didn't make a bowl game, no sense in sitting around moaning and *****ing about it. Just go back to work on what positives can be gleaned from it. Increased focus on recruiting, and staff communication, and S&C. Jeez, you people are great at leaving out context.
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Sounds eerily similar to 'watch the film' and 'workin' like heck'.
 
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Dooley is the king of excuses and him saying a bowl game wouldn't help is just another one. It's going to be really exciting to see us get our ass whipped in Atlanta against NC State to start the year off and then Dooley can throw the players under the bus again. I love my beloved Vols more than anyone and I just cant see how everyone doesn't see that Dooley is not the man to right the ship of this program. Dooley flat out cant coach and its the Gods honest truth.
 
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I think a lot of Dooley's comments have a lot to do with being a lawyer. They never want you take full responsibility for your actions. They teach you to downplay your personal deficiencies and blame stuff on other people. Also they talk in circles. How can you not be good but not benefit from more practice at which you would supposedly get better?
 
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10NCVol88 said:
]I think a lot of Dooley's comments have a lot to do with being a lawyer. They never want you take full responsibility for your actions
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. They teach you to downplay your personal deficiencies and blame stuff on other people. Also they talk in circles. How can you not be good but not benefit from more practice at which you would supposedly get better?[/QUOTE]

I agree with this!
 
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GLDunlap said:
Well then losing to Kentucky wasn't so bad afterall. Who needs extra practice when your a solid 5-7 team or should I say 4-8? Come to think of it wasn't increasing the chances we would make a bowl game his reasoning for the embarrassing buyout of UNC to begin with? Dooley also mentioned that sometimes when you go to a bowl you think your better then you really are. WTH? Was there really a chance of this team thinking they were better then they really were? Honestly with that attitude it makes me wonder how much he really cared about beating kentucky. I heard all year how badly these coaches wanted to make a bowl game but suddenly after losing to Kentucky Dooley decides it probably wouldn't have helped anyway. Anyone that thinks this guy has actually done anything to deserve one more year is off their rocker. We all know the definition of insanity.
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You mean doing the same thing over and over again? such as a coaching carousel?
 
#146
#146
Times will get better. Bama had a tuff decade and now the Vols are. Your fan base was enjoying our troubles so now it is our time to watch the Volnation eat its young.
 
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#147
Not even the fans believe this team wouldn't have benefited from an extra game and extra practice.
It's a given they would have.
So why not be honest about that?
The lack honesty in his comments, bothers me.
 
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A bowl game would have helped Dooley ... he needs all the support from the fanbase and boosters he can get. Loosing to UK and not going bowling all in one game could not possibly have helped him in that regard.

Surely the lawyer is smart enough to know this.
 
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One thing I think we can all agree on is that Dooley is truly great at ‘coach speak’….no doubt you could show him a bright yellow sun and he could be convincing its red…or blue…or yellow….very adept at saying what’s required ….I mean how else would he have this job…
 
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