"Dooley Rule"

#51
#51
This is something that would probably rarely happen in a lifetime, much less having it happen to us 2 or 3 times last season alone.
 
#52
#52
8-5 would be the best case scenario. I'm a UT homer and season ticket holder but the UAB game is one that we shouldn't have won. We were lucky their kicker must've been a UT fan and missed 5 FG's. Just sayin' alot of the fortunate wins and unfortunate losses even out over the season. UT just had one more unfortunate counting LSU & NC losses.
 
#54
#54
imavolfan said:
LSU had too many people on the field so the game would have been over. With that being said, you can assume a 8-5 record but if we would have beat LSU we may have played someone else besides UNC so who knows what would have happend.
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I believe in that game it was UT that had too many men on the field and was penalized half the distance.:eek:hmy:
 
#55
#55
jspvol76 said:
Ok, I'm still confused on this then. I was at the game and may not have heard the ruling right by the head ref because of all the booing, but the ref said he spiked the ball which stopped the clock. Now the penalty happened the same time, but he still spiked the ball. Are you saying the penalty negates the spiked ball? Still seems like a loop hole there.
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The spiked ball stopped the clock, but there was a penalty on the play that would not have stopped the clock had there been no spike. Had the rule been in effect the 10 sec runoff would have applied because of the penalty that occurred after the ball with hiked to the QB. Game over - same as the NFL.

As already stated it should not have even come to this. The official was to stand over the ball until we had the opportunity to counter their offensive substitutions, which were still running on and off the field. Whether we chose to do that or not did not matter. Instead the official marked the ball for play and immediately moved out of the way. One of about 5 errors they made on one play.
 
#57
#57
What makes me laugh is how so many fans are overthinking this. The NFL has had this rule for years. Literally years. It's nothing new. Coaches don't "take advantage of it." The rule is the rule and it works.

In the NFL, within the last minute, if you are on offense and commit a penalty, part of your penalty is a loss of timeout. Whether or not you have timeouts remaining, the coach of the penalized team has the option to use one of his timeouts or take a 10 second runoff. The actual penalty isn't a runoff, it's a timeout.

I'm sure it won't be much different.
 
#62
#62
Its the way it should be. You shouldn't be rewarded for a penalty.

If UT loses a game in reverse now, so be it. They got it right now.
 
#63
#63
Orange Bison said:
8-5 would be the best case scenario. I'm a UT homer and season ticket holder but the UAB game is one that we shouldn't have won. We were lucky their kicker must've been a UT fan and missed 5 FG's. Just sayin' alot of the fortunate wins and unfortunate losses even out over the season. UT just had one more unfortunate counting LSU & NC losses.
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I was at that game sitting on left side of goal post in the 9 row, seat 4 he missed some alot during the game but was nailing them in practice
 
#64
#64
BeecherVol said:
Its the way it should be. You shouldn't be rewarded for a penalty.

If UT loses a game in reverse now, so be it. They got it right now.
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They have it right in the event that it occurs as it did in the MCB. However, if we are on the five yard line this year in Tuscaloosa, down by 2, with 9 seconds left with the clock stopped(for instance, right after we have used our last timeout) and have a false start on the fg try, does that count as a pre-snap penalty or do we lose the ten seconds and the yardage?
 
#65
#65
vader said:
I believe UNC had too many players on the field when they snapped the ball. The penalty would result in a 10 second runoff ending the game.
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ut18vols said:
Saw where W. Rucker retweeted --- Rules committee also approved the "Dooley Rule," allowing a 10 second runoff on a penalty in the final min.

We had to learn the hard way before changes were made.
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I think it is a good rule, but surely it is only enforced when the clock is running, right?

If a team spikes the ball with :09 on the clock, and then commits a false start, is it game over, even though the clock was not running?
 
#66
#66
manfromtn said:
They have it right in the event that it occurs as it did in the MCB. However, if we are on the five yard line this year in Tuscaloosa, down by 2, with 9 seconds left with the clock stopped(for instance, right after we have used our last timeout) and have a false start on the fg try, does that count as a pre-snap penalty or do we lose the ten seconds and the yardage?
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Well it is a pre snap penalty. And I haven't read the actual rule and it's wording, but if they differentiate between pre snap penalties and post snap, then we would get another shot. If not, we would lose.
 
#67
#67
crusse10 said:
I mean, rules don't change until there's a reason to change the rule.
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Then why did the NFL already have it in place? To prevent an unwanted occurrence. Because they knew it was wrong to let the offense benefit from an offensive penalty stopping the clock at the end of a game. It's called prevention and foresight. The NCAA doesn't seem to understand this concept as they are a very reactive instead of proactive organization.
 
#68
#68
I think we can all agree that the NCAA is about as proactive as putting sun screen on after you get melanoma
 
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#69
UTVOL02 said:
Would have been 8-5 instead of 6-7. Hurts so much just reading/talking/thinking about all of this. The only thing that will cure the pain is to win a couple games this season that we're not supposed to. I think 9 wins this fall would make us all feel a lot better about those two unfortunate endings in 2010.
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Honestly I think to most Vol fans watching the game in mixed company those were the 2 most devastating losses in history. Especially the LSU game. everyone at the party I was at was making fun of the fans of LSU and other teams that were razzing us and then seconds later BAM!!!!

My wife went on a run to the liquor store to get more vodka. She was at the checkout counter when the game ended the first time and walked out of the store before the second ending. She walks in hands me my drinks and is all happy because she thinks we won which means I would be in a good mood, only to find out we had lost, and she had bought the wrong brand of vodka.

Luckily for me I stayed home for the UNC game and fell asleep/passed out during the 3rd quarter so I didn't have to watch that travesty live. Those 2 moments were the difference between us having a great season and just the season we had which showed we have the potential to be a great team under CDD. We win that LSU game and who knows what that momentum does for us?
 
#70
#70
VolsNSkinsFan said:
I am 100X more worried about the celebration rule, especially with all these young guys
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Me to.

The new rule if ever enforced will blow up the sport. Taking points off the board is way too powerful a tool for the refs. I've always hated the celebration penalties but the new rule is way outa line.
 
#71
#71
Could have been a Pontiac Game Changing game for us...instead....it caused expectations to be met.

I'm glad that's the last time it has to happen.
 
#72
#72
Les Miles has to be pissed about someone taking away his game strategy. The Dooley rule, nice.
 
#74
#74
Now if we can just get them to adopt a rule allowing us to have 13 men on the field to attempt to block a field goal, we should have the bases covered.:)
 
#75
#75
How about this. A defensive team calls timeout with 10 seconds left in the game trying to get the ball back on 4th down. The offensive team puts 12 men on the field and commits a false start. Is the game over or can the defense refuse both penalties? If not, the offense can effectively run out the clock from 59 seconds with false starts.
 
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