Dooley is not the answer

#201
#201
Need to chill after a crappy lose and look at it like this. He hasn't had his time yet to get it right with the players he wants and experoience. Agree that he shouldn't even be considered for firing. In couple years if it aint good then i would say lets look around.
 
#202
#202
vols22 said:
Need to chill after a crappy lose and look at it like this. He hasn't had his time yet to get it right with the players he wants and experoience. Agree that he shouldn't even be considered for firing. In couple years if it aint good then i would say lets look around.
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i believe his contract is up after next year. if we don't win 8 games hart needs to make a switch.
 
#203
#203
champyvol said:
i'm not mike tyson bro.lol. he is gonna get another year, i'm just saying when we finish 500 again next year he has to be let go. the coaching on both sides of the ball is terrible. if the kids don't get the concept well then it is on the coaching staff to simplify. dooley is not the answer, but hamilton has backed us into a corner with a below average coach that you really can't get rid of till his contract is up. I have no faith in the guy at all.
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I think next season is too soon to judge Dooley, as well. We won't REALLY know if coach Dooley is capable of winning a championship until the end of his 5th season...if we let the boy get that far.

Right now, we have a scrappy coach, a scrappy staff and a scrappy bunch of kids who want to win. If we keep that fire burning, the winning on the field will take care of itself, if given time.

I, for one, hope Coach Dooley gets to finish a 5th season on Rocky Top. If you are right about him, the assesment will be a fair one, if the Vols aren't on a trajectory to win 10 -12 games per season.

However, with the way Dooley goes about his business, if the Vols are on a trajectory to win 10-12 games a year at the end of his 5th season...it won't just be an Urban Meyer flash in the pan. I think he is building the foundation for a Bobby Bowden type career.
 
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champyvol said:
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You sir are the proof positive that cousins should not marry and have children. They have complete morons for kids. There is not a coach in the country that could do better with the circumstances under which CDD took over this team. Get with the program and start supporting your team or go be a Bama fan. They like idiots like you.
 
#206
#206
We have some fans, who frankly are not very intelligent. They expect Tennessee to go out and win every game and blame the coaches when we lose. Sure coaches will always receive some blame and rightfully so, after a loss.

However, when fans start throwing the coach in the hot seat less than two seasons on the job, I question their sanity and their intelligence. The Vols football program was crashed into the ground by Phil Fulmer. Kiffin cleaned out the malcontents and brought in some recruits, but most of those good recruits left the program.

Look at the roster and you will see that I have highlighted the name sof the guys who play a lot of minutes for UT. Look and see how many are juniors or seniors. Then compare them with the number of sophomores and freshmen who are playing.

I counted 6 seniors, 6 juniors, 15 sophomores, 11 freshmen, who are playing the bulk of significant downs. That is a very young football team that is playing much more experienced teams. Think about it and think about the reality of where this program is at this time.

2011 University of Tennessee Football Roster

[big]2011 Tennessee Football Roster[/big]

No.NamePos.Ht.Wt.ClassHometown (Last School)
1Michael PalardyPK/P5-11176SOCoral Springs, Fla. (St. Thomas Aquinas)
2Naz OliverWR5-10177RS SOJersey City, N.J. (Saint Peter's)
3Byron MooreDB6-1205RS SOCarson, Calif. (Los Angeles Harbor C.C.)
3Tyler DrummerWR6-1165RS SOPowell (Univ. of Cumberlands)
4Marlin Lane Jr.TB6-0205FRDaytona Beach, Fla. (Mainland)
5Matt DarrP6-1221RS FRBakersfield, Calif. (Frontier HS)
5Zack AllenDB5-9195RS JRKnoxville (Farragut)
6Vincent DallasWR5-11185FREllenwood, Ga. (Cedar Grove)
7Nash NanceQB6-3208RS FRCalhoun, Ga. (Calhoun)
7Corey AlexanderDB5-5150SOGallatin (Pittsburgh)
8Tyler BrayQB6-6210SOKingsburg, Calif. (Kingsburg)
9Daryl VereenLB5-11215RS SRCharlotte, N.C. (North Mecklenburg)
10Antonio JonesWR6-4215RS SOTimmonsville, SC (Garden City C.C.)
10Marsalis TeagueDB5-10185JRParis (Henry County)
11Justin HunterWR6-4200SOVirginia Beach, Va. (Ocean Lakes)
12Matt SimmsQB6-3210SRFranklin Lakes, N.J. (El Camino (Calif.) C.C.)
13DeAnthony ArnettWR6-0175FRSaginaw, Mich. (Saginaw)
14Justin WorleyQB6-4200FRRock Hill, S.C. (Northwestern)
15Chip RhomeP/PK6-2197SRChristiana (Austin Peay)
17Tyler PageQB6-3193RS FRCandler, N.C. (Asheville)
17Brent BrewerDB6-1215SOTyrone, Ga. (Sandy Creek)
18Izauea LanierDB6-1190RS SOGordo, Ala. (East Mississippi C.C.)
18Max ArnoldQB6-1180FRMcKenzie (McKenzie)
19Tyler CoombesDB6-0185RS FRLebanon (Wilson Central)
19Devrin YoungTB5-8165FRKnoxville (Bearden)
20Robert YonceDB6-0192RS JRWytheville, Va. (George Wythe)
20Rajion NealTB5-11210SOFayetteville, Ga. (Sandy Creek)
21Michael CarillonDB6-0180FRKnoxville (Webb School)
21Da'Rick RogersWR6-3215SOCalhoun, Ga. (Calhoun)
22Reggie JuinTB5-7170RS SOConyers, Ga. (Heritage)
22Rod WilksDB6-0214RS JRSmyrna (Smyrna)
23Prentiss WaggnerDB6-2185RS JRClinton, La. (Clinton)
24Deanthonie SummerhillTB5-9199RS FRTuscumbia, Ala. (Deshler)
24Eric GordonDB5-9185RS SONashville, Tenn. (Hillsboro)
25Art EvansDB5-11180RS SRLakeland, Fla. (Evangel Christian)
26Geraldo OrtaDB6-0180FRValdosta, Ga. (Lowndes)
26Derrick BrodusPK/P5-11171RS FRMaryville (Alcoa)
27Jacob CarterWR6-0181RS FRNashville (Ensworth)
27Justin ColemanDB5-10183FRBrunswick, Ga. (Brunswick)
28Tauren PooleTB5-10215SRToccoa, Ga. (Stephens County)
29Tom SmithTB5-11205FRApopka, Fla. (Apopka)
30Shane ReveizLB5-10225RS SRFarragut (Farragut)
31Jaron ToneyTB5-10180RS FRAlcoa (Alcoa)
33Nick BranumDB5-11180RS SOKnoxville (Knoxville Catholic)
33Logan HoneycuttLB6-2225RS FRJohnson City (Science Hill)
34Herman LathersLB6-0220RS JRBaton Rouge, La. (Scotlandville)
35Robert NelsonLB5-11210RS SOStone Mountain, Ga. (Stone Mountain)
36Anthony AndersonWR5-11185RS SRKnoxville, Tenn. (Austin East)
37Donnie GarnerTB5-9180FRSignal Mountain (Signal Mountain)
37Brian RandolphDB6-0190FRMarietta, Ga. (Kell)
38Scott BubisFB6-0235SONashville (Mississippi)
38C.J. FlemingDB5-10180RS SRRichmond, Va. (Highland Springs)
39Grant JessenLB5-11215JRCordova, Tenn. (St. George's School)
39Ben BartholomewFB6-2251RS JRNashville, Tenn. (Montgomery Bell Academy)
40Austin JohnsonLB6-2240SRHickory, N.C. (Hickory)
40Chris CatesWR5-10189RS JRKnoxville (Christian Academy of Knoxville)
41Dontavis SappLB6-2219SOValdosta, Ga. (Valdosta)
42Nigel Mitchell-ThorntonLB6-1235JRStone Mountain, Ga. (Stephenson)
43Dakota SummersTE6-3232RS FRCamden (Central)
43Martaze JacksonDL6-2240RS FRDemopolis, Ala. (Demopolis)
44Maurice CouchDL6-2305RS SOOrlando, Fla. (Garden City C.C.)
45A.J. JohnsonLB6-3245FRGainesville, Ga. (Gainesville)
45Austin BolenFB5-11206RS FRKnoxville (Farragut)
46Channing FugateFB6-1250SOJackson, Ky. (Breathitt County)
47John PropstLB6-0225SOHoover, Ala. (Hoover)
48Austin TaylorFB6-2240FRAlamo (Crockett County)
48Greg KingLB6-2235JRMemphis, Tenn. (Melrose)
50Raiques CrumpLB6-1220SOAdamsville, Ala. (Minor)
52Christian HarrisLB6-2235FRWoodstock, Ga. (Etowah)
53Jake StoreyLB5-10215RS SRTitusville, Fla. (Astronaut)
54Isaac MobleyOL6-1350SOKnoxville (West)
54Jordan WilliamsDL6-5240FRGainesville, Fla. (Gainesville)
55Jacques SmithDL6-2255SOOoltewah (Ooltewah)
56Curt MaggittDL6-3215FRWest Palm Beach, Fla. (Dwyer)
57Mack CrowderOL6-2275FRBristol, Tenn. (Tennessee HS)
58Andrew FrittsOL6-1300FRAthens (Christian Academy of Knoxville)
58Marlon WallsDL6-2281RS SOOlive Branch, Miss. (Olive Branch/Hargrave Military Academy)
59Gregory GriecoLB5-10219RS FRKnoxville (Farragut)
59Nick GuessDS6-3230RS SRKnoxville, Tenn. (Farragut)
60Carson AndersonOL6-1280RS JRFlorence, Ala. (Florence)
63J.R. CarrDS5-10220RS SOLomita, Calif. (South Torrance)
63Evan VolnerOL6-3295FRScotts Hill (Scotts Hill)
64James StoneOL6-3308SONashville (Maplewood)
65Joseph AyresDL6-3280RS SOKnoxville (Chattanooa McCallie)
66Marques PairOL6-5310RS FRSumter, S.C. (Sumter)
67Jacob GilliamOL6-4275RS FRKnoxville (Farragut)
67Alan PoseyOL6-6330FRAthens, Ga. (Clarke Central)
68Marcus JacksonOL6-3326FRVero Beach, Fla. (Vero Beach)
69Allan CarsonDL6-2325FROxford, Ala. (Oxford)
70Ja'Wuan JamesOL6-6324SOSuwanee, Ga. (North Gwinnett)
71Dallas ThomasOL6-5305RS JRBaton Rouge, La. (Scotlandville)
72Zach FultonOL6-5330SOHomewood, Ill. (Homewood-Flossmoor)
73Darin GoochOL6-2301JRReno, Nev. (Butte Junior College)
74Antonio RichardsonOL6-6325FRNashville (Pearl-Cohn)
75JerQuari SchofieldOL6-6333RS SOAiken, S.C. (South Aiken)
76Daniel HoodDL6-4293RS SOKnoxville, Tenn. (Knoxville Catholic)
77Kyler KerbysonOL6-5305FRKnoxville (Knoxville Catholic)
78Alex BullardOL6-2309RS SOFranklin (Notre Dame)
79Brock CollierOL6-3265RS FRJoelton (Brentwood Academy)
80Dylan WestWR6-1181RS FROneida (Oneida)
80Corey MillerDL6-3265SOWellford, S.C. (Byrnes)
81Mychal RiveraTE6-3254RS JRValencia, Calif. (College of the Canyons)
82Cory EichholtzWR5-8184RS JRKnoxville, Tenn. (Bearden HS)
83Zach RogersWR6-0180JRNashville (David Lipscomb)
84Brendan DownsTE6-5237FRBristol, Tenn. (Tennessee HS)
85Matt MiltonWR6-5210SOMascoutah, Ill. (Mascoutah)
86Willie BohannonDL6-2254RS JRMobile, Ala. (Blount)
87Alex EllisWR6-4215FRDel Mar, Del. (Del Mar)
88Cameron ClearTE6-6265FRMemphis (Central)
90Steven FowlkesDL6-5265JRCollege Park, Ga. (Banneker)
94Gregory ClarkDL6-2322RS FRWarner Robins, Ga. (Northside HS)
95Arthur JefferyDL6-3305RS SOSarasota, Fla. (Booker)
96Trevarris SaulsberryDL6-5280FRGainesville, Fla. (Gainesville)
97Malik JacksonDL6-5270SRNorthridge, Ca. (Southern California)
99Ben MartinDL6-4265RS SRCincinnati, Ohio (La Salle)
 
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#207
#207
Leaving the stadium last night all I could think about is wanting Dooley fired but that was all out of frustration with how poorly we played. I do think Wilcox should be canned after the season. Nothing he has ever done has impressed me and a lot of the mistakes our defense makes isn't youth its coaching and discipline. I love Dooley but he is going to lose a lot of the fan base the next few games. Even though everyone expects what is coming. The offensive line has 2 losses for us. Youth is not an excuse for being soft. They don't fire off the ball. Their pass blocking is okay, only because you don't have to be physical to do that. Everyone knows we can't run the football with that offensive line. And you can't win in the SEC if you can't run the football. No exceptions.
 
#208
#208
champyvol said:
i believe his contract is up after next year. if we don't win 8 games hart needs to make a switch.
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8 games is a resonable measuring stick for next season but, remember...UT's opponents will have something to say about how many wins they get, as well.

The Vols aren't competing in a vaccum, friends. We are fans of a rebuilding job...one that has to compete against established, high quality coaches and players every saturday. There are at least 4 championship level programs on the Vols schedule every season, along with at least two other programs on the verge of being championship calibre. That means 6 very good, to great, opponents from now to infinity.

Kiffin and crew left the Vols program at the foot of a mountain...not a hill...it's a long climb to the top. There wasn't an established coach in the country willing to start that climb...but Dooley took on the task.

Heck, the guy embraced it and he has the tailored Orange slacks to prove it.

There's an awful lot to be proud of, already...if you want to see it.
 
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#210
#210
We may get 4 spankings in the next 5 games.

Of course, we may beat MTSU and have that used as an example of the program's progress.
 
#211
#211
I don't know why anyone was expecting him to be able to win important games in the SEC. It seems like almost everyone let his terrible record at his terrible previous school slide for some reason.
 
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#213
#213
richt's been building his program for 10 years and has better talent than UT. Why should dooley be able to beat him in year 2?
 
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#218
Chris4Vols22 said:
I don't know why anyone was expecting him to be able to win important games in the SEC. It seems like almost everyone let his terrible record at his terrible previous school slide for some reason.
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He showed Hamilton how well organized he was. Apparently, that closed the deal.
 
#219
#219
Exactly what coach would you guys like to have? Dosent look like there is much to choose from. Pete Carol may wanna come back. Urban Myer will be coaching up north possibly. Les Miles wont leave LSU for us. Saban will prolly stay or try the NFL again. Oh and the Boise coach wont leave. So who could you guys possibly wanna have as a coach? Give Dooley 2 more years. Then START ALL OVER AGAIN. Sigh.
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#221
#221
I am far from a negavol, I believe in my team and my guys to a fault. I believe when we're down 24 entering the 4th quarter theres still a chance "just 3 touchdowns and all 3 2 point conversions". But I've never been more dejected then after last night. Heck, I drove 600 miles from PA to watch my Vols lose to WYOMING and was not this bad. I guess a light finally came on that simply said "we're really not any good". That being said....

Dooley is the answer,firing him would be moronic. He needs time to evaluate and adjust, mostly his coaching staff and some philosophy. We cant run the ball,I believe its scheme, in 2009 we ran the ball as well as any time in the past 10 years with 2 270 pound walk ons and a 280 pound freshmen te using a system that makes Arian Foster look good, enough said. Whether thats CJC or we need a new OC I dont know.

Team speed on defense is embarassing, I cant believe how Lanier and Teague just got run by, not fooled not confused he just ran right by them and pulled away and after 6 new dbs this year these are the best we got? I think this whole getting bigger thing could be fine but not by sacrificing speed. Speed wins, end of story. AJ at linebacker isnt fast enough, our dbs arent fast enough, we still get no pressure on the qb.

Then theres the kicking game, the two top ranked guys at there position last year and they both stink, flat out, end of discussion.

Its not recruiting for as good as we arent we recruit very well. Changing coches again would be a disaster, Dooley has done a great job of bringing back Tennessee tradition and representing our program well. Ability to run the ball on offense and team speed on defense, fix it CDD, I'm behind you but you gotta fix whats wrong, its not youth, Im tired of that excuse. Run the ball get lots of team speed and two new kickers wouldnt hurt either.
 
#223
#223
i thought DD was hired through the 2015 season...but he prob wont make it that far...next yr he dont achieve at least 8-9 wins hes done..plain and simple..UT fans WILL NOT put up with losing or nonconsistent seasons year after year...just wont happen..
 
#224
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utmba93 said:
He showed Hamilton how well organized he was. Apparently, that closed the deal.
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I remember Hamilton said he was 'blown away' by the interview. But since Hamilton has never played or coached football or any sport how would he know?
 
#225
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VolsRule said:
richt's been building his program for 10 years and has better talent than UT. Why should dooley be able to beat him in year 2?
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Kiffin whipped the tar out of Georgia and South Carolina in his year zero...and almost beat the bammers.
 
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