Dooley = Genuis?

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dooley2 said:
Another thing that is funny is that you guys blame everything on Dooley. It's like you don't know that Dooley doesn't call plays. It's like you believe Dooley is completely responsible for developing a game plan. It's like you think Dooley is the one that runs out of gas in games.
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Successful programs don't make excuses nor do they have to. Those in charge make everyone accountable including themselves.
 
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phowell23 said:
Those saying we have a bad recruiting class this year must not be following recruiting. We have the #1 rated RB saying we are his top school choice right now. We also have the #2 rated OG leaning to us. Another highly rated JUCO WR has us as one of his top choices. There is talk that the #1 rated DE is really gaining interest in us and could possibly flip from Auburn to us.

So don't say we have a bad recruiting class till everyone signs on the dotted line.
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I think it's based on whose comitted. We haven't been flipping many people on signing day and the Rivals recruiting ranking has slipped a small notch each year that Dooley has been here. Obviously, if Dooley signs those four guys you mention it's something in his favor. If he gets none of them, don't come on here and tell us it's not his fault some kid didn't want to come to UTK.
 
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FearlessFreep said:
Successful programs don't make excuses nor do they have to. Those in charge make everyone accountable including themselves.
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Excuses and reasons and completely different. You just have to be smart enough to tell the difference. You, sir, must not be. Lol... What, you think you could take Matt Simms to Neyland and beat Oregon?
 
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dooley2 said:
Excuses and reasons and completely different. You just have to be smart enough to tell the difference. You, sir, must not be. Lol... What, you think you could take Matt Simms to Neyland and beat Oregon?
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I think I could beat KY using a backup QB with Matt Simms.
 
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FearlessFreep said:
Successful programs don't make excuses nor do they have to. Those in charge make everyone accountable including themselves.
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And another thing, Rome wasn't built in a day. If you do not understand how badly this program was suffering when Dooley took over, then there's no hope for you.

Again, I don't know if Dooley is the right guy for the job, but at least I'm open minded about it. I try to look at all aspects before making a decision, not just a win/loss record.
 
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hohenfelsvol said:
The bottom line of the initial post was enough. The rest was fluff.


The fact that Dooley is in over his head does not equate to I/we do not respect the man. No argument. He walked in to a crappy situation. He is though, in my opinion, in over his head. He will at some point be let go. The University should at that point have a "big fish" on the line. If they don't, then they need to go with an interim head head. Don't delay the pain.
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Which way would hurt recruiting worse? Your way (bold), or giving CDD more time? Just asking?
 
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dooley2 said:
Excuses and reasons and completely different. You just have to be smart enough to tell the difference. You, sir, must not be. Lol... What, you think you could take Matt Simms to Neyland and beat Oregon?
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Could you please post some of the reasons that you think Dooley should stay, so we can better understand what you consider a reason. I can't wait to be blinded by your brilliance.
 
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dooley2 said:
Another thing that is funny is that you guys blame everything on Dooley. It's like you don't know that Dooley doesn't call plays. It's like you believe Dooley is completely responsible for developing a game plan. It's like you think Dooley is the one that runs out of gas in games.

So, it's Dooley's fault that Kiffin left a couple weeks before signing day? It's Dooley's fault that Janzen Jackson and Darick Rogers had a drug problem? It's Dooley's fault that Tyler Bray broke his thumb and Justin Hunter tore his ACL. It's Dooley's fault that because of a flawed rule (which got changed by the way) UNC was able to get close enough to score on us in the bowl game? It's Dooley's fault that the economy has tanked and less tickets are being sold (you guys blame this on the losing record, but every stadium in every sport is having these same problems)?

Here's what I have seen:

In 2010, Dooley took a roster that was worse than the roster in 2009 (Kiffin even said 2010 would be worse than 2009, and by the way, Kiffin lost to a dreadful Ol Miss team and got absolutely slaughtered by an ACC team in a bowl game) and he almost beat LSU on the road and still went to and almost won a bowl game (and should have if not for the lack of a runoff rule).

In 2011, our offense was ticking like a clock. If you watch the season up to the point Hunter got hurt, we were rolling. Florida couldn't stop us until he got hurt. The our season went in the crapper. I was watching when Hunter got hurt and I even told the people around me that I thought our season was done because of that injury. Hunter was unguardable.

Now, in 2012, despite Dooley still not having a group of seniors yet, or anyone from any team that knows what it's like to win at a D-1 level, we are competing. I see it as we learn to win this year, and next year we apply the knowledge.

Some of you want so badly for something to go wrong that you exaggerate it when it does. I saw someone in this thread say that teams at other schools always play focused and that's where coaching comes in. Yeah, well, tell that to Georgia about Saturday. They looked really focused. Or tell that to the Saban-coached Bama team that lost to Utah badly in a bowl game. Or tell that to Boise State, which despite always having a great season always seems to have at least one disastrous loss. Get off of Dooley until at least the season is over, because until then you guys sound like biased crybabies.

And by the way, the OP had 99 likes the last time I checked and a smart @** nega comment had 16 right below it. You negas are in the minority, which helps me have more faith in society.
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So who exactly is responsible for Dooley's record? Since it isn't his fault he is a losing head coach.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Short post. Only requires ability to understand small numbers.

Dooley is 14-16 at UT...

...4-14 in the SEC, with 3 of those wins against Vandy and UK...

...0-3 against UF and UGA, 0-2 against Bama and USCe (so far)...

...still looking for that "first big win" against a ranked opponent...

...whatever "Phase" UT football is in, it's time to phase out, and go in a different direction.

When the posturing, speculation, and opinionating is done, what remains is the raw data, which cannot be denied...or explained away.

Go Vols.
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This is not a drive through at Burger King so you can't have it your way!

GTFO this site and please don't come back!

Go CDD and GBO!

Tennesseeduke

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dooley2 said:
Another thing that is funny is that you guys blame everything on Dooley. It's like you don't know that Dooley doesn't call plays. It's like you believe Dooley is completely responsible for developing a game plan. It's like you think Dooley is the one that runs out of gas in games.
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Dooley allows Chaney to call the plays, and kept him on staff from Kiffin's staff. He has a lot of input in game planning, but he doesn't call the plays. Dooley hired the S&C coach.

The buck starts and stops with Dooley, no matter how you want to slice it and dice it. It's his program he's running, and based on the results, his model isn't working. If he's running someone else's model, and not his own, that's even worse. He's Derek Dooley, not Nick Saban.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
This is not a drive through at Burger King so you can't have it your way!

GTFO this site and please don't come back!

Go CDD and GBO!

Tennesseeduke

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If that's all you go to offer the conversation, why even post?? At least offer a different opinion, instead of spewing some dumbassery like that.
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Exactly. The point that is being made is not that the defense sucked; it's that our beloved Vols couldn't find a way to outscore ... wait for it... a wide receiver at quarterback.
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If I were a Florida fan (thank heavens I'm not), I'd definitely give a like to the original post. Just as I would if I were an UGA fan, or Bama fan, or USCjr fan.

I would read that and think, Wow, 6-8 more years of Dooley at Tennessee? Great! Now we can pencil in the UT game as a W every single year..
 
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Thought the OP had a great post.

The main challenge for UT always has been and always will be recruiting. With very little talent-wise within Tennessee, other SEC teams with rich in-state recruits (SC, GA, FL, AL, MS, TX) maintain a distinct, long-term advantage over UT.

F.U. Kiffen and his staff knew how to "recruit", but the guys they drew in were big-time recruits in name only: They were largely self-absorbed thugs, as time has proven.

I give props to DD on his recruiting: The guys we have are STICKING with the program. Only Douglas to my recollection was the only talented guy to bail on DD, and obviously, he had serious off the field issues.

The way I see things, it will always be an uphill battle for us to recruit. When times get tough - as they did over the past 5 years - that just trebles the difficulty for us to recruit and turn the team around. In contrast, look at Florida State when they made a coaching change... BOOOOOM in comes the HUGE recruiting class stocked with 5* and 4* IN STATE guys.

That's why GA, FL, and BAMA can turn things around faster than UT.

Always has been that way. Always will be.

DD is on the right track.
 
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thebjd said:
I said nothing negative until the Florida game. He has recruited at a decent level but not as good as the coaches he has to beat. He definitely has not coached as well as the coaches he has to beat. I hoped against logic he would be the guy but that has been about as fruitful as hoping the diamond in the rough recruits are better than the 4 and 5 star talent our rivals reel in.
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Okay...2 & 1/2 years is enough time to take this decimated program back into being a top 10 elite program? That's where Fla is heading...they just whipped LSU physically Saturday--and we played Fla toe to toe through 3 quarters and gave up 2-3 big plays...and one player--#10, Teague, a Kiffin holdover--was the major culprit in those big plays--and CDD is a failure? What about that 12 play drive to score in the 3rd QTR...You do realize that we're the only team this year to score on Fla in the second half--don't you? Please be reasonable...and examine facts objectively...
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Not sure what your point is, but.....

2006-2008: Fulmer was 24-15 overall, 5-7 against FL/UGA/Bama/USCe, and 1-1 in bowls. That's a .615 overall, and .417 against the four SEC teams you mentioned.

If you want to go back one more year, you get 29-21 (.580) and 5-11 (.313).

Fact is, Fulmer had lost it. The only debate now is whether Dooley ever had it.

Go Vols.
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You're proving my point! CDD has had 2.5 years from the worst the program has been in 40 years! It was even worse off than when Majors took over--and CPF had every advantage and still could only produce .615 and 5-7 against our toughest opponents...My point is--2.5 years isn't nearly enough time to give a fair evaluation of CDD--how do you know if he has "IT" until he goes through 4 recruiting classes? At least give him until the end of this season...
 
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