Dooley calling out players

[NEO]

Thank goodness Dooley calls out his players and throws them under the bus because he expects the BEST out of them on and off the field!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank goodness that Pat Summitt and Bob Knight aren't or weren't as passive as you want Dooley to be. OP is troll

You really just went there and compared Dooley to Summitt and Knight?

Dooley may be great one day but Bob Knight could pull that crap because he was a proven winner and his record spoke for itself.

Dooley doesn't have that yet.

 

[Coach Grizz]

One thing i noted from Coach Martin's quote, is the fact that the players at issue had apparently practiced hard, but just weren't able to perform in the game yet. This may be a different situation than what Dooley had - Dooley may have been calling out the players on the football squad because they failed to practice hard and he felt that caused their poor play. Does that distinction justify the different approach?

In coach Dooleys case the old saying, "you practice like you play".

 

[Wylo]

I think DD is very much like Jeff Fisher was, in calling out players; i.e., he doesn't do it without a purpose.

However, I think this backfires on DD far and away more than it ever did with Fisher. Fisher was much more tactful and subtle than Dooley has ever been...doesn't mean that one is smarter than the other, just means that Fisher is a more seasoned coach.

Hopefully Dooley has learned his lesson--and judging by some of the things he's been more forthcoming about lately (making mistakes with the media, the alleged apologies he issued to the team, etc.), I'd say he has...or at least seems to have.

Jeff Fisher never won anything special either... Good point...

 

[OuterBanksVol]

An excellent post.

CDD should take the old maxim to heart: Praise in public, criticize in private. It applies to all walks of life.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Jeff Fisher never won anything special either... Good point...

Dude... funniest avatar ever. Kudos!

 

[madbamahater]

You really just went there and compared Dooley to Summitt and Knight?

Dooley may be great one day but Bob Knight could pull that crap because he was a proven winner and his record spoke for itself.

Dooley doesn't have that yet.

No

 

[Spartacavolus]

So tired of this conversation. Someone pwease let me know when DD hurt someones feewings, outside of your own.

If you can't take the truth about playing bad on the D1 level, stick with intramurals.

This ain't intramurals, onion skins.

 

[DaddyChad]

Players generally don't mind taking accountability if they see the coaching staff take accountability for their own mistakes. A lot of Dooley's slight have been more TIC type slams than throwing players under the bus but still it probably gets old with some on the team.

 

[sjt18]

No it's not easy. He hasn't called them out in a way that people save this information. These people need to grow a set and move on. When he called Jackson out he said that "He missed practice today because he had a tommy ache". People went ape-**** over this. Come on.

That's it, new thread being started for the babies

If it is stuff like that... then I sure hope the people complaining do not expect a championship anytime soon. If a player can't take a little poke over something like that... then how do they expect them to handle the pressure of being in a 4th and goal situation with a 4 pt difference and the SEC championship on the line. If that form of being "called out" is too much for a guy to handle... then he just doesn't need to be a college football player.

 

[sjt18]

Players generally don't mind taking accountability if they see the coaching staff take accountability for their own mistakes. A lot of Dooley's slight have been more TIC type slams than throwing players under the bus but still it probably gets old with some on the team.

If you haven't seen Dooley lay blame on himself and the other coaches then you haven't been paying attention or have intentionally ignored it to preserve a bias.

FTR, saying something to the effect of "we are not good in punt coverage" is FAR closer to calling himself and the ST's coach out than anything he's said to a player... and he didn't say that while smiling or joking.

 

[Vol423]

One thing i noted from Coach Martin's quote, is the fact that the players at issue had apparently practiced hard, but just weren't able to perform in the game yet. This may be a different situation than what Dooley had - Dooley may have been calling out the players on the football squad because they failed to practice hard and he felt that caused their poor play. Does that distinction justify the different approach?

I would say that would make it even MORE Dooley's fault. If players aren't practicing hard, then they don't play - no matter who they are. Once that fact becomes known, players will begin to always practice hard. Once that happens, then the team will eventually begin to show improvement. Of course, that could be somewhat dependent on having a competent coaching staff.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So tired of this conversation. Someone pwease let me know when DD hurt someones feewings, outside of your own.

If you can't take the truth about playing bad on the D1 level, stick with intramurals.

This ain't intramurals, onion skins.

This, All day 3825ing long!!!!!

 

[Bite em' Smokey]

My opinion is if you dont like anything about DD then go root for Bama. Why hang around a team that can do nothing to please you?

 

[rockytop114]

I saw this quote from Coach Martin after the Alabama game regarding some young players that did not play well. The difference between Coach Martin's approach and CDD's approach

Do you think CDD may modify his
approach on dealing with underperforming players going forward?

well put Martin did what I would want any coach to say .Martin is experienced and i believe that Dooley has learned the hard way that even though your excuse is valid you don't do it you always take the blame. To throw a player under the buss don't help .most the time people know the real answer or blame but as a head coach you take the blame coach them up . No one like excuses and when you do this the players will see and give you there all.

 

[Orange Blazer]

well put Martin did what I would want any coach to say .Martin is experienced and i believe that Dooley has learned the hard way that even though your excuse is valid you don't do it you always take the blame. To throw a player under the buss don't help .most the time people know the real answer or blame but as a head coach you take the blame coach them up . No one like excuses and when you do this the players will see and give you there all.

Translation?

Sorry couldn't resist.

 

[RustyBas]

Maybe th whiney whimps who played sports without keeping score should buck up and realize life isnt always perfect and sometime you will get called a damn idiot or lazy when you are.

 

[rockytop114]

Maybe th whiney whimps who played sports without keeping score should buck up and realize life isnt always perfect and sometime you will get called a damn idiot or lazy when you are.

I know as a boss you have to earn respect to truly get respect and hard work out of your men.you get in there and get dirty with them .also know the higher ups don't like excuses just like the fans or AD don't granted I think he had plenty of reasons for excuses the first 2years but not no more.

 

[rockytop114]

I know as a boss you have to earn respect to truly get respect and hard work out of your men.you get in there and get dirty with them .also know the higher ups don't like excuses just like the fans or AD don't granted I think he had plenty of reasons for excuses the first 2years but not no more.

Also if you notice all the good coaches and good players and good workers and grown men for that matter don't make excuses they always take the blame and say they will fix the problem

 

[rockytop114]

Translation?

Sorry couldn't resist.

A First off on my iPhone. and I am not good at typing on it also can you not read and understand . Or B you just want to be a smart ass eather way glad I made your day I think maybe your just one of those that just try to get your kicks by making fun of someone I bet your just a joy to hang out with. I would probably rather get kicked by a maul thow.

 

[Big Orange Bo]

I saw this quote from Coach Martin after the Alabama game regarding some young players that did not play well. The difference between Coach Martin's approach and CDD's approach was very apparent.



Given Dooley's willingness to call out his players in the meida when he doesn't think they played well, i was wondering what VN thought was the better approach?

Do you think CDD may modify his approach on dealing with underperforming players going forward?

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NO....JMO:hi:

 

[ImportedVoL]

Totally different situations IMO as some others have stated..

And personally when I played sports, I appreciated the coaches that would call those players out that where not giving everything they had etc.. It is just not fair to the rest of the guys that are doing everything right and giving every inch of strength they have if they don't.

And a place like UT with the support you have here as a student athlete. You get every possible chance to succeed, NO other university can offer something we can't... you should expect brilliance.

 

[Vol423]

I have no issues with Dooley calling out players that aren't giving effort. However, the difference between Dooley and Martin is that Martin connects the dots and takes ultimate responsibility for the team performance. If someone doesn't play well it's Martin's fault because it's his job to make sure that his players are prepared well and motivated to win the game. Dooley calls out underperformers while taking no blame for not preparing them well, properly motivating them to play hard, or for not replacing them in the event they aren't prepared well or playing hard. It's about accountability. Martin accepts it. Dooley punts.

 

[voldawgforever]

I have no issues with Dooley calling out players that aren't giving effort. However, the difference between Dooley and Martin is that Martin connects the dots and takes ultimate responsibility for the team performance. If someone doesn't play well it's Martin's fault because it's his job to make sure that his players are prepared well and motivated to win the game. Dooley calls out underperformers while taking no blame for not preparing them well, properly motivating them to play hard, or for not replacing them in the event they aren't prepared well or playing hard. It's about accountability. Martin accepts it. Dooley punts.

I call bull****. I cant stand woosies...

Good night fellas! Grab you're little bitties and sit down somewhere. The MEN will take it from here! Hell fire...

:no:

 

[JAllen18]

I have no issues with Dooley calling out players that aren't giving effort. However, the difference between Dooley and Martin is that Martin connects the dots and takes ultimate responsibility for the team performance. If someone doesn't play well it's Martin's fault because it's his job to make sure that his players are prepared well and motivated to win the game. Dooley calls out underperformers while taking no blame for not preparing them well, properly motivating them to play hard, or for not replacing them in the event they aren't prepared well or playing hard. It's about accountability. Martin accepts it. Dooley punts.

I agree with this, and it's something I hope that with some experience that Dooley will eventually learn from.

 

[led0321]

Thank goodness Dooley calls out his players and throws them under the bus because he expects the BEST out of them on and off the field!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank goodness that Pat Summitt and Bob Knight aren't or weren't as passive as you want Dooley to be. OP is troll

Spurrier hasn't won many games because he trashes his players........OP needs to be banned