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Negateer said:
We said conference title, 'turds.

Your first was in 91 (not 90, my bad).

1991.

lmao

Flash in the pan.
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HAHAHAHAHA. I'm amused at the fact you're implying your program is "old money" while you deride UF as a "noveau riche" program. Also, I get a kick out of the implication that the generational love for UT football will get UT through hard times while UF's alleged lack of generational followers will lead to it's down fall. Here's the reality: We haven't had a losing season since 1979 while UT has had 3 in the last seven years. It's time to face the fact UF has certain extremely important built-in advantages(like weather, state population and instate talent)that UT does not have.

Also, ask anyone CFB fan anywhere who the old money programs are. They'll tell you Bama, Mich, Oklahoma, OSU, ND, USCw and maybe Penn State. UT is not in that category. Sorry.
 
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Negateer said:
Yup, they sure do. Florida's little foray into elite college programs is over.

it's only gonna get worse. And as I said before, you don't have the die hard fan base to get you thru the hard times. Your fans are mostly bandwaggoners.

Our UT families go back generations and generations and generations. For the most part, UFlashinthepan's families go back maybe one...or two at most.

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Not sure if serious.
 
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VFL1800FPD said:
Look at the past 100 years of college football. UT has had successes over the course of the entire time, whereas Florida first acheived success in the 90s and peaked in the early 2000s and is now on a downturn. Until Florida has another pinnacle of success, they are nothing more than a flash in the pan of college football history.

P.S. College football history goes back farther than 1990. Just sayin.
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I assume you share a similar opinion of Miami and FSU's football programs also, considering neither program was a factor nationally until the 1980s, in FSU's case the late 80s.
 
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pinecrestgator said:
HAHAHAHAHA. I'm amused at the fact you're implying your program is "old money" while you deride UF as a "noveau riche" program. Also, I get a kick out of the implication that the generational love for UT football will get UT through hard times while UF's alleged lack of generational followers will lead to it's down fall. Here's the reality: We haven't had a losing season since 1979 while UT has had 3 in the last seven years. It's time to face the fact UF has certain extremely important built-in advantages(like weather, state population and instate talent)that UT does not have.

Also, ask anyone CFB fan anywhere who the old money programs are. They'll tell you Bama, Mich, Oklahoma, OSU, ND, USCw and maybe Penn State. UT is not in that category. Sorry.
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While I agree with some of your points, claiming UT isn't a historically relevant program is just absurd. UT and Alabama built the SEC. We've sucked for the past half decade, but that's a damn blip on the radar when compared to the scope of UT's entire football legacy.
 
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pinecrestgator said:
Also, ask anyone CFB fan anywhere who the old money programs are. They'll tell you Bama, Mich, Oklahoma, OSU, ND, USCw and maybe Penn State. UT is not in that category. Sorry.
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I disagree with the dumbass that is Negateer, but UT is absolutely in this category.
 
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Aesius said:
While I agree with some of your points, claiming UT isn't a historically relevant program is just absurd. UT and Alabama built the SEC. We've sucked for the past half decade, but that's a damn blip on the radar when compared to the scope of UT's entire football legacy.
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I'm not saying they're not historically relevant but I am saying that UT is not a blue blood. Bama is the only blueblood in the SEC. If you don't believe me, Go on OSU, Mich, ND or USCw boards and ask them.
 
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So, in eager anticipation of your third post (man, I hope it is response to mine-fingers crossed), your football evaluation comes from third party fan built sites for which you apparently take as gospel-and then don't do any research of your own to confirm, deny, or decide for yourself? Excellent decision making process. I salute you.
 
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HUD2000 said:
So, in eager anticipation of your third post (man, I hope it is response to mine-fingers crossed), your football evaluation comes from third party fan built sites for which you apparently take as gospel-and then don't do any research of your own to confirm, deny, or decide for yourself? Excellent decision making process. I salute you.
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Thanks. I appreciate the salute. This kind of talk about who belongs in what category historically is a matter of perception. If certain fanbases think of each other in the same group, then that group is formed. Michigan, OSU, BAma, USCw, ND and Oklahoma look at each other as equals from a historical perspective. If they don't think of Tenn as being on equal footing with them historically, then you're never going to belong in that group with them. They'll never accept you.

It's difficult to quantify who belongs in the blueblood category. I know there is a ranking in the CFB datawarehouse but the entire notion of historical relevance is nothing more than a whole lot of mental masturbation among fans to rationalize or feel better about their programs. It's nothing more than that.

What is important is the organization of the football program, the fanbase and it's contributors. I would say UT is top notch in the regard and it's the reason they'll be back with the right leadership. Some programs that won in the 40 and 50's are nowhere to be found while others who started winning more recently are not going away.
 
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pinecrestgator said:
I'm not saying they're not historically relevant but I am saying that UT is not a blue blood. Bama is the only blueblood in the SEC. If you don't believe me, Go on OSU, Mich, ND or USCw boards and ask them.
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9th all time in wins would suggest otherwise. Too bad Florida's history started in the 90s, or most of their fans would realize there was over 70 more years of football before Spurrier became their HC.
 
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sanddune50 said:
9th all time in wins would suggest otherwise. Too bad Florida's history started in the 90s, or most of their fans would realize there was over 70 more years of football before Spurrier became their HC.
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Some say that not remembering history dooms one to repeat it. Evidently, rembering football history too well prevents the Vols from repeating it.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Too bad Florida's history started in the 90s, or most of their fans would realize there was over 70 more years of football before Spurrier became their HC.
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It's not bad at all....actually the timing is perfect for a 17 year-old HS recruit born in 1995.
 
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vol2013 said:
You gators are lucky that you have HialeahGator posting on this board to make your fan base seem more intelligent. Where did I ever try to argue that UT was better than UF? I was responding to 99 when he said that it was a fact that UF was a better than UT. 99 then responded by using rankings which are a bunch of BS. The bottom line is the quality of education is more on the individual student than it is on the school. UT and UF both offer the resources to get a student anywhere that they need to go. Graduate schools know that those rankings are a bunch of BS as well. While I was getting my MD/PhD, I was on a committee that hosted students on there interviews and got to get a closer look at the admissions process. The only time that school prestige was when all things were equal. Publications in scientific journals, MCAT scores, GPA, and other extracurricular activities all carried much more weight, and this was at a top 15 med school where you would think that they would care more about rankings.
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While I was getting my HS diploma, I was on a committee to help other students get the their, there, they're thing down.
 
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USMC Gators said:
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Aesius said:
While I agree with some of your points, claiming UT isn't a historically relevant program is just absurd. UT and Alabama built the SEC. We've sucked for the past half decade, but that's a damn blip on the radar when compared to the scope of UT's entire football legacy.
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We keep telling ourselves this but really the Vols have sucked for a solid decade now with a couple of back-ins to getting pasted in the SECCG. We are quickly becoming the next Ole Miss, a program that won conference and national championships way back when but that found itself in a hole that it could not escape despite some good recrtuing classes and some decent coaches.
 
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bigeasy said:
I could not imagine going to a school that large. But I guess it would just be something everybody would have to get used to. I lived right by THHEEEEEE Ohio State for a year and I still can not fathom how big that school is. Tennessee will probably never spike much higher than 30K because they are landlocked.
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kind of not true. The University of Tennessee has 5 "schools" that are part of it. The University of Tennessee at Knoxville, Chattanooga, Martin, Tullahoma, and Memphis. Yes UTK is landlocked but the overall institution isn't (although UTK is the flagship campus). Some of the different majors are spread out among the different campuses and not available from all of them. For example Athletic Training. I am planning on attending grad school at UTC to become a certified athletic trainer because it is the only one that offers it...but dream job would be the head athletic trainer for the Tennessee Vols! ;)
 
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TNGrad2012 said:
Oh, I do. I would love to get the stadium rockin' on a Saturday night in late September while the weather is still warm. That's when all the crazies come out. Surely you know about crazy people since you're a Florida fan and "The Swamp" is notorious for bringing out insanity and chaos from UF fans inside.
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Hell yes! Night games = Awesome!
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
We keep telling ourselves this but really the Vols have sucked for a solid decade now with a couple of back-ins to getting pasted in the SECCG. We are quickly becoming the next Ole Miss, a program that won conference and national championships way back when but that found itself in a hole that it could not escape despite some good recrtuing classes and some decent coaches.
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I can't see that ever happening. We have too much money, too much history, and the top notch facilities that would prevent that. This fan base and UT boosters would never allow our program to fall that far. They'll spend whatever amount is needed to get us "our Saban".
 
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hopefully, UT-UF is saturday night, prime time!! 100000 liquored up Vol fans wild and crazy--nothing better.
 
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