Dooley and his character

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LocoVol

LocoVol

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I'm not one to post alot or start many threads. You can tell that by my join date and post count! lol:) Saturday I got to listen to some knxoville call in shows and do some reading on the vols news for the week. It seemed Dooley had lied and was being bashed all around about the Brown problem. I wanted to try to find out what happened since I am tired of My beloved Vol's getting bad press all the time. I was ticked at what looked like Dooley's stupid mistake. After some reading here is what I came to learn. Correct me if I am wrong but this was the best i could come up with from reading all over. I posted this in some commits on story on another site and wanted to get your opinions.

Good for Dooley. Sometimes helping a young man means letting him learn the hard way. If he had been mature enough to talk face to face with the coach I believe he would have gotten something worked out. Sending a txt message is another example of this kid needing someone in guide him into being a man. Obviously Arthur and his "handler" are more concerned for what they may want rather than what may be good for the young man. "This is our family decision", no its not it's his!
"I don't think it's wrong for a player to want to transfer, but I also know that it's not the right thing to do just transfer every time it gets difficult, because you can't run from problems. There's problems everywhere you go, and I think that's happened in a couple of instances."

Second, If a kid wants a release he needs to get it done before recruiting and signing day.
Dooley said. "It's a couple of things. It's the player's situation. It's how the player's handling the situation. It's how the player's hurting our organization, because I do have to protect the interest of the organization. All those factors get jumbled in. Says it all!

"Nowadays, what happens is players -- it's kind of the way the world is now -- but all they look at is how it affects them. Well, you have a responsibility to the team, too, and it affects the team when you make decisions at certain times of the year. I think there's right ways to handle a situation, and there's right times.

All parties involved agreed to not make this a running soap opra and Dooley kept his part of that. Anyone on here that says he lied needs to read his quotes. He never said they did not meet they said he never asked for a face to face request to transfer. Fact!!!

"Bryce left town without a face-to-face request (with UT football coach Derek Dooley) for a transfer," a school official told the News Sentinel on Tuesday evening. "There's still no news on where he wants to go."
Which was confirmed by his dad, theirs dad again!

Arthur Brown also said his son, one of the nation's top recruits entering last season, did not ask Dooley for a release at that meeting. This week Dooley said that the reason Bryce has not been released is because he "has not come to me, looked me in the eye and said, 'I want a release.'"

"The reason it has continued on is because Bryce has not come to me, looked me in the eye and said I want a release to so-and-so school. At some point, that's got to happen."

It still hasn't happened
Say you dont like the decision, thats fair. Say that Dooley lied, Then you dont know the facts or cant read.
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I hope this helps put things in a better understanding. If I made mistakes please forgive. It took alot of reading and typing. Both some would say I suck at! lol:)
 
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I completely agree. I believe the only reason Brown wasn't given a release was because he wouldn't meet with Dooley in person. Dooley seems like a man of principle and I like that. However, that doesn't always transfer to on-the-field success so we'll wait and see about that.
 
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I believe the reason DD didn't grant the release is that Arthur Sr tried to muscle him.
 
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One thing not listed in there is that Bryce Brown's dad claims Bryce & CDD met briefly the Saturday that he left. He stated that Dooley told Bryce not to tell the media.

One thing I know is that CDD is a class act, period. Also, he's got a great track-record of recruiting. The only question about him is how he is with Xs and Os!
 
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Well, you have a responsibility to the team, too, and it affects the team when you make decisions at certain times of the year. I think there's right ways to handle a situation, and there's right times.
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Kinda like the way Dooley up and left La Tech just a few weeks before NSD? Way to set the example Dooley.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Kinda like the way Dooley up and left La Tech just a few weeks before NSD? Way to set the example Dooley.
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I hope you do know Neyland started his coaching career at Hudson..Majors was a Pittsburg before UT..shoot Doug Dickey graduated from UF and assisted Arkansas! Go Dooley.
 
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pureorange25 said:
I hope you do know Neyland started his coaching career at Hudson..Majors was a Pittsburg before UT..shoot Doug Dickey graduated from UF and assisted Arkansas! Go Dooley.
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And that has what exactly to do with my point. Dooley wants to talk about loyalty and how decisions can hurt the team at the wrong time of the year. What he is really saying is "do as I say, not as I do".
 
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pureorange25 said:
I hope you do know Neyland started his coaching career at Hudson..Majors was a Pittsburg before UT..shoot Doug Dickey graduated from UF and assisted Arkansas! Go Dooley.
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Majors came to UT after winning a national title at Pitt. Not exactly the same as going 4-8 playing in a garbage conference.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
And that has what exactly to do with my point. Dooley wants to talk about loyalty and how decisions can hurt the team at the wrong time of the year. What he is really saying is "do as I say, not as I do".
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That is what every politician preaches every election year.
 
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SGMVols said:
When did Dooley announce he was running for Congress?
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Never. I was making a point. But now that you asked, I'm game. Being a head coach at a D1 level school requires some very "politcal" type moves and wheeling and dealings. You have to play the game to coach the game.....politics are involved when College Athletics are at its peak.
 
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Thanks for the summary. I think BB should of thought about where he wanted to go before he left high school. Seems like was never 100% sure, and smooth talkin Cali boy conned him into it.

Go Vols.
 
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brown started this when he didnt show up for spring practice, dooley owes him nothing. dooley was nice enough to leave the door open and hes got nothing but grief over it.
 
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From an outside perspective, Dooley is turning out differently than I expected.

First, with the passive approach to the bar incident. Now, playing technicality games with a 19-year-old that doesn't want to play for him.

I'm seeing less "no nonsense" and more "lawyer".
 
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wheaton4prez said:
From an outside perspective, Dooley is turning out differently than I expected.

First, with the passive approach to the bar incident. Now, playing technicality games with a 19-year-old that doesn't want to play for him.

I'm seeing less "no nonsense" and more "lawyer".
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The bar thing he was swift on and from his on words is not done with it. And I am sure he has the info that we don't have so it might be that he has identified the ones in the wrong and is dealing with or has already dealt with it.
 
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One thing I bet for sure is Dooley did not send a text message to his boss. I bet he met him and thanked him for the opportunities he was given. If he was required to have had to ask for a tranfer to coach UT I bet he would have done so following the rules that was asked of him.

I am not sure he is the answer to UT's problems but I am going to give him a chance and I cant place the blame on him in this case.


I hope Brown finds what HE wants and does well. I feel for him because I think he has people he trusts that dont really care about what is best for him.
 
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Well Dooley is a little better statesmen then Kiffin or Fulmer, so far. I would like to see how he breaks down the film for the fans after the game, to see if he dose that as well.


Dooley could have picked up the phone and asked Bryce what was going on though. I don't understand why he wanted to wait for Bryce to make the move. If I was head coach, I think I would be trying to sell him on the program and getting him to return to the team.
 
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I don't blame Dooley at all and believe him 4 to 1 over the Browns. Best of luck with where Bryce went to, but he clearly didn't live up to his obligations at UT.
 
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