Don’t want to compete with Michigan and Texas

[BeecherVol]

That just proves your boy can't couldn't coach a fat kid to eat.
Everyone else had to deal with it
First year coaches and freshmen players alike.
Almost all of them did better than the 3rd year genius.

All this so called disease did was reveal who is a good coach and solid program and who isnt.
There were little to no hiding places like last year.
Your boy can coach and the program is in disarray.
One more year, 5 more, isn't gonna change anything except maybe make it worse.

Good coaches and solid programs rose to the top

Not really.
They were already there. It just didnt change.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Incorrect.
They are not considered losses, but they are no longer considered wins given the circumstances of how you got them.

I honestly believe if you have to forfeit a game that you knowingly broke the rules and won, it should be considered a loss as well. But thats just my opinion.

The games were played and there was a winner and a loser. Hence a vacated win is still a win. I agree it should be considered a loss.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

That just proves your boy can't couldn't coach a fat kid to eat.
Everyone else had to deal with it
First year coaches and freshmen players alike.
Almost all of them did better than the 3rd year genius.

All this so called disease did was reveal who is a good coach and solid program and who isnt.
There were little to no hiding places like last year.
Your boy can coach and the program is in disarray.
One more year, 5 more, isn't gonna change anything except maybe make it worse.

Good coaches and solid programs rose to the top

Sorry but this is just a false take. Not defending Pruitt here but it’s a fact that not every team dealt with contact tracing like TN did. Morris and Wright missed like 45 days. Bailey missed a ton because of it and so did many other players. It’s not really an excuse but those things happened.

Is it sufficient reasons to excuse how poorly we played? Absolutely not. Was the COVID contact tracing BS a factor in our struggles? Absolutely. That’s an undeniable fact.

 

[BeecherVol]

I don’t think we’ll be in a position to beat Alabama next season - that’s just reality IMO. Georgia will have far superior talent but we could potentially pull an upset but it’s a definite long shot. I think progress would be a single digit loss to both those. I think Florida was beatable this year and we should have a shot next year but playing in the swamp makes it a tough one as well. I think we can go 0-3 against those teams as long we are actually in the games in the second half. A win over the Gators in the Swamp would buy Pruitt more margin.
He has to win the OOC games (Pitt) and go at least 4-4 in conference...so I think 8-4 is the lower limit of expectations...note that in my book, if we upset any of the big 3, the minimum expectation goes to 9-3...

Bama's closest game this year was a 15 point win over Ole Miss.
Their average win margin is 33 points a game (and thats with an all conference schedule)
UT fell in just slightly below the average at 31 points.

Right now (SEC CG excluded), they re aren't many in the conference in position either.

 

[74charger]

What makes you think guys are not going to transfer in mass if Pruitt is fired tom? I'm guessing Henry T would go straight to Alabama with him and Bailey straight to FL. I think as many as 15-20 would bail, maybe more.

Not if they bring in a big name like Freeze.

 

[dobre_shunka]

Nope, I guess you could just never keep up. I've always been a fan of Pruitt's and I pretty much called the QB situation to a tee over a year ago when Bailey signed. You boys love to call me out though and I've no idea ever recalling anything else you've ever contributed to the board. I don't have any recollection of you at all.

You're so much better than the rest of us. We're not worthy of your blindingly accurate and infallible insights.

Now I'm off to put my head in the oven because you don't have any recollection of me at all. Goodbye cruel world.

 

[BeecherVol]

The games were played and there was a winner and a loser. Hence a vacated win is still a win. I agree it should be considered a loss.

Correct, there was a game played and an outcome determined.

But no different than when you steal a car (I guess a win if thats the objective) they dont let you keep it if you get caught.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

What makes you think guys are not going to transfer in mass if Pruitt is fired tom? I'm guessing Henry T would go straight to Alabama with him and Bailey straight to FL. I think as many as 15-20 would bail, maybe more.

That’s a bold an unlikely prediction.

 

[BeecherVol]

Not if they bring in a big name like Freeze.

Freeze's name is more popular for why he's no longer at Ole Miss than what he did at Ole Miss on the field.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

Hiring a really good coach is going to take some moxy. We will see if the perpetual brush fire continues or we put it out completely.

That other time twenty players left during a coaching change?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

That’s a bold an unlikely prediction.

Eh maybe. But maybe not. Especially when the NCAA passes the immediate eligibility rule for transfers. I do think there are many of our players that love Pruitt. And some of them, I don’t think it’s very many, are here just because Pruitt. But its not out of the realm of possibility that if Pruitt was fired that a. Inch transferd out.

 

[Vols1891]

What makes you think guys are not going to transfer in mass if Pruitt is fired tom? I'm guessing Henry T would go straight to Alabama with him and Bailey straight to FL. I think as many as 15-20 would bail, maybe more.

This is the exact same argument people used against firing Dooley and Butch.

 

[VOL_Lyfe]

Freeze's name is more popular for why he's no longer at Ole Miss than what he did at Ole Miss on the field.

pretty sure this season has something to do with it also

 

[Vols1891]

He flipped our roster in two short seasons is one of many.

Who cares if he flipped the roster if we’ve seen absolutely no improvement in the meantime.

 

[Vols1891]

Then you don't know how this works. Go back and check what it did to our rosters the last 4 times we tried it.

By that logic, Dooley would be coaching his 11th season at Tennessee right now.

 

[BeecherVol]

pretty sure this season has something to do with it also

I think he's a good coach. But his season and where its at is happening because of his past. Which is well documented and still on a lot of peoples minds. I would also venture to guess most fans are interested in Freeze because he beat Bama twice moreso than anything he could do at Liberty.

He's also a worm that tried to blame his cheating on the previous coach when he got caught. The crazy part, had he not went after Nutt he would probably still be there. Be curious to see how well he could have done coaching the mess he created.

 

[Nasavol]

What makes you think guys are not going to transfer in mass if Pruitt is fired tom? I'm guessing Henry T would go straight to Alabama with him and Bailey straight to FL. I think as many as 15-20 would bail, maybe more.

HAHAHAHA

 

[Nasavol]

Sorry but this is just a false take. Not defending Pruitt here but it’s a fact that not every team dealt with contact tracing like TN did. Morris and Wright missed like 45 days. Bailey missed a ton because of it and so did many other players. It’s not really an excuse but those things happened.

Is it sufficient reasons to excuse how poorly we played? Absolutely not. Was the COVID contact tracing BS a factor in our struggles? Absolutely. That’s an undeniable fact.

Yep, that COVID thing stopped at TN borders, give me a break...

 

[KeyVol14]

Then you don't know how this works. Go back and check what it did to our rosters the last 4 times we tried it.

The fact is butch was already competing with likes of OU, Bama, FL, and already beat UGA once. Pruitt has been blowout in every one of those matches and it’s not even close

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Sorry but this is just a false take. Not defending Pruitt here but it’s a fact that not every team dealt with contact tracing like TN did. Morris and Wright missed like 45 days. Bailey missed a ton because of it and so did many other players. It’s not really an excuse but those things happened.

Is it sufficient reasons to excuse how poorly we played? Absolutely not. Was the COVID contact tracing BS a factor in our struggles? Absolutely. That’s an undeniable fact.

we were also mercifully way less affected by opt-outs and injuries than pretty much every other SEC program. Those obstacles evened out. Throw in the fact that we had more returning starters than just about anyone else in the SEC and it's very easy to argue that Pruitt did less with more (something Fulmer was an expert at).

 

[Sarms58]

This is the exact same argument people used against firing Dooley and Butch.

Except that the NCAA has all but guaranteed that they are going to pass the one time immediately eligibility rule so the dynamics have changed.

It could be beneficial to schools like Tennessee because we maybe able to pick up a few disgruntled blue chips from Bama, Georgia, Clemson, etc when they realize they will be practice squad and special team players - kids can transfer out and have immediate eligibility to play four years (as long as they didn’t play in more than 4 games).

But it also means that schools who fire coaches may lose some kids as part of the process. We lost Bryce Brown after Kiffin left and Cade Mayes decommitted when we fired Butch but the numbers are usually small. With the new rule I think we’ll see more kids transferring out during coaching changes - especially guys like T’Oo, Gray, etc who are probably gonna be drafted but have to play one more year in college. T’Oo would be Great fit at Bama and Gray is perfect for the Clemson O...

 

[onevol74]

What makes you think guys are not going to transfer in mass if Pruitt is fired tom? I'm guessing Henry T would go straight to Alabama with him and Bailey straight to FL. I think as many as 15-20 would bail, maybe more.

What makes you think they will not transfer if we keep Pruitt? These kids rely on development to make it to the NFL and they ain't getting it at UT.

 

[Southeastern VFL]

It's also possible that Covid really did disrupt this year's development and that under normal circumstances Pruitt can produce an 8+ win season next year with this roster. A new coach will not have this roster so hard to say what next season would look like good or bad.

That a lie this mass exodus that you keep pushing doesn't add up I am sorry players understand that there is a business side to this game and after a 3-7 season in year 3 covid or not IF he was fired it would be justified and they know that. Everyone that is associated with any type of sports understand the business side. I understand fully that you want Pruitt to stay I respect I do but please find some other reason to keep him besides mass exodus because sure there is going to be a few but the majority will stay they always do.

 

[Sarms58]

we were also mercifully way less affected by opt-outs and injuries than pretty much every other SEC program. Those obstacles evened out. Throw in the fact that we had more returning starters than just about anyone else in the SEC and it's very easy to argue that Pruitt did less with more (something Fulmer was an expert at).

Yea, but we had JG as the returning starter because we didn’t have Spring to Summer or much of a fall for Bailey to challenge...having a sucky returning starter locked because of COVID is worse than not having a returning starter at all...of course after about 4 games the other guys should have ready to play more

 

[GVol1966]

If we hang on to JP for a year too long, we could be in a coaching search against Michigan and Texas. I think as we stand right now it’d be most beneficial to part ways now and get the best coach available.

Very possible, and I agree.