Doesnt This Make You Sick???

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DOCTORLOOMIS

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This is a quote from Yahoo sports. It is talking about the Michigan head coaching job as compared to that of LSU. The writer basically admits the Big 10 is a joke and that Michigan plays no one. Sickening.........

"LSU is a fantastic program, with great fans, great local talent and membership in a great conference; but if you compare the two jobs as a coach would (and not a fan) then this is a no-brainer.

Coaches want jobs that are both safe and smooth. They want to coach where they have so many advantages over most of their schedule (conference) that they almost can't lose and get fired. At the same time, they want to know that when they have a great team, the chance for a national championship is fairly clear.

This is why Michigan is considered one of the great jobs in all of football.

You almost can't screw it up and you can certainly win it all."

He then says........" Over time, Michigan and Ohio State should win the vast majority of games against the rest of the league and for the past four decades, they have.

A bad year in conference for Michigan is 6-2 or 5-3. Consider this year, when the Wolverines dropped their first two non-conference games in historically ugly fashion, then suffered injuries to their star quarterback and running back and still could go 7-1 in the league.

Tack on a non-conference slate which for the next 20 years will feature Notre Dame as the marquee opponent and you can practically pencil in 4-0 most Septembers. (Hold the Appalachian State jokes).

If you struggle and have injuries, you wind up 8-4 or 9-3, like this year. If you have a great group, the road to the BCS title game is as favorable as any in the country. Things may change year to year – a Penn State or Illinois or Wisconsin may jump up – but overall, history repeats itself.

Compare that to the dog-eat-dog SEC, where LSU's program is either even or at a disadvantage to Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee and Georgia. Even great coaches have their programs slip in the SEC. "


Proof the Big 10 is an overrated joke...and the SEC is where the big boys play.
 
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michigan is the winningest program in college football history for a reason and it isn't because the big-10 stinks.
 
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Yes there is a reason....playing Minnesota, Akron, The Citadel, Youngstown State, University of Ohio, Northwestern, Navy, etc.....that'll make you a winner alright.
 
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Ooopps....I almost forgot....other reasons are....Ball State, Central Michigan, Indiana, Northern Illinois, Eastern Michigan, San Diego State, Houston, Western Michigan, ...and these reasons are in the last 6 years! One things for sure....the mighty Wolverines make a point to play every geographical area of the state of Michigan....ie Central, Western, Eastern, Northern, Southern...etc.
 
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I would think that coacing Michigan is one of the most premier coaching jobs in America, they cant help the way the big 10 fooball programs are, they are the oldest Division I conference.
 
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he has a point about the ebb and flow of the SEC teams rising and falling in cycles.........that doesn't happen too often in the big 10 with Mich and OSU.......

but this day and age, that has more to do with the big 10 sucking than anything else.
 
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my boss pointed out to me the other day about the SEC east losing 2-3 games and how he has to hear about the Big East been terrible when it happens to them.
 
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my boss pointed out to me the other day about the SEC east losing 2-3 games and how he has to hear about the Big East been terrible when it happens to them.
the problem the big east has is that it has two programs that have any sort of history, and that's pitt and WVU.

the rest of the league is upstarts and nobodies that are having to earn their way to some upper echilon status.

it's a conglomoration of teams that weren't wanted by the ACC, didn't want to be in C USA, and had no other option but go indy or stay in the Big East.

having said that, the competition w/in the conf. is very good, and if Rutgers, cincy, S. FL, and Uconn can continue to build on what they have done of late, the Big East can be very good. couple that with WVU staying at or near the top and maybe Pitt getting back to some winning ways, the conf. can legitimize itself.

i do think it needs to do well in bowls and do some good OOC scheduling. and they've done that the past two years. can they do it over time.......that's the question. if not, then they take on the look of a "one hit wonder".......
 
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the big-10 historically (not the past 4 years) rivals the SEC. michigan plays FAR more elite nonconference games than the overwhelming majority of SEC teams. They've had ND on the schedule every year (not impressive now I know), including oregon, SC, and texas in future years. Though A coach can be an idiot and win 10 games a season at michigan just with the recruiting base.
 
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the problem the big east has is that it has two programs that have any sort of history, and that's pitt and WVU.

the rest of the league is upstarts and nobodies that are having to earn their way to some upper echilon status.

it's a conglomoration of teams that weren't wanted by the ACC, didn't want to be in C USA, and had no other option but go indy or stay in the Big East.

having said that, the competition w/in the conf. is very good, and if Rutgers, cincy, S. FL, and Uconn can continue to build on what they have done of late, the Big East can be very good. couple that with WVU staying at or near the top and maybe Pitt getting back to some winning ways, the conf. can legitimize itself.

i do think it needs to do well in bowls and do some good OOC scheduling. and they've done that the past two years. can they do it over time.......that's the question. if not, then they take on the look of a "one hit wonder".......

I see what your saying Jake, the conference has definately improved since I've lived in the Burgh. I work with several Pitt Alumni and they are disgusted with Pitt football, always teasing me about becoming a fan of a real team in Pitt and they will buy me my first Pitt shirt. I think several teams will be in bowl games probably WVU in a BCS bowl.
 
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the big-10 historically (not the past 4 years) rivals the SEC. michigan plays FAR more elite nonconference games than the overwhelming majority of SEC teams. They've had ND on the schedule every year (not impressive now I know), including oregon, SC, and texas in future years. Though A coach can be an idiot and win 10 games a season at michigan just with the recruiting base.
say what you want, but there's a reason why most years the big 10 comes down to Mich/OSU.

adding PSU was a good move, but their up and down.

wisconsin has proved to be a pretender more times than not.

the rest of the league is just not very good. on a good year, the big 10 might go 4 deep.
 
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I think Droski is right here... There is a reason Michigan has gone to 30+ consecutive bowl games, and it isn't because the Big 10 is bad. Michigan fields winners.
 
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Purdue: Purdone
Mich St: little brother
Indiana: who cares
N'Western: Vandy in Chicago
Minn: they got Tubby, and they don't have Hayden Fox.
Illinois: piror to this year....who cares
Iowa: perrenial pretneder
PSU: traditional power, up and down of late
Wisconsin: has failed on all but one attempt to get to next level of late.
OSU: perrennial top ten, played in multiple NT games and have won one in the last decade
MIch: prerrenial top ten, played in multiple BCS games, and a NT in the last decade.

now of that list of teams......do you really think OSU and Mich have this "tough" road to the rivalry game?
 
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Wisconsin is usually solid. Penn State has been down late. I hate Iowa. Michigan State has been down since Saban went. Purdue was ok a few years ago. Right now, the Big 10 is awful, but still... 30+ consecutive bowl appearances, the highest winning percentage in college football history, and more conference titles then I think any other team has... You can't put that all on the Big 10 sucking lately.
 
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it's a 4 deep conf. in a good year. that is all.

most years, as is the case this year, it's a two team league.
 
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A few years ago, when OSU won the National Championship, there quite a few solid teams in there. Now the problem is they have a lot of bad coaches.
 
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i don't disagree with the history TV......but i'm just not going to buy this Mich/OSU "big game" thing anymore.

it's a big game, cause it's the only game, every year, that ever matters in hte big 10. Illinois and Wisconsin have won the conf in the last decade......besides those two when was the last time anyone other than Mich/OSU has won the big 10? it may have happened, but it's happened so few times, i can't even remember it.....

and i'll equate the Mich conf. title thing like i do with FSU winning an asinine 12 straight ACC titles.

when one team clearly dominates a league like that, it's real easy to sit back and ooooh and ahhhh at it. but a closer look reveals........they SHOULD dominate that league cause it sucks.

during FSU's hay day, if you were to ask an FSU fan what were the biggest games of the year........1/2 would tell you FL, the other 1/2 would tell you Miami.

and at the time both were non conf. games. every one else in the ACC was a distant third.

Mich's two biggest rivals...........OSU and ND.

maybe that's why the Rose bowl got be such a big deal for the winner of the Big 10........becaue they finally got to play somebody.
 
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Also, if you ask Michigan who is a bigger rivalry, I think they would say MSU before ND... Not that it matters at all.
 
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oh yeah, the big 10 does still celebrate the ever so popular "co championship".

Yeah... Iowa and OSU both went unbeaten in conference a few years ago. Purdue got the auto bid a few years ago. I can't think of the last time NW got the auto bid.

Hate me for it, but the thing I do like is there is no conference championship game.
 
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