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lawgator1 said:
On this subject I confess I am not a moderate. The man is appealing to, if not the worst in American society, close to it. He has tapped into an enormous sea of fear at change, at diversity, at loss of control.
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Your led by the nose blindness never ceases to amaze.
 
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lawgator1 said:
On this subject I confess I am not a moderate. The man is appealing to, if not the worst in American society, close to it. He has tapped into an enormous sea of fear at change, at diversity, at loss of control.
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T-TownVol said:
What the hell do you think got BHO elected? Take you whiney ass somewhere else.
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lawgator1 said:
I understand that a lot of people are willing, and indeed want, to excuse away a lot of what he does simply as entertainment that antagonizes.

But I personally think he has gone well past that point. Now, there is no way that he can rise to power like Hitler did. The world is too savvy a place for that, now. But he can sure do some damage to race relations, religious tolerance, education reform, etc.

I think what the real threat is here is that he is making it okay again to hate. It is almost in vogue. For a long time this underbelly of our country had lost its way, it had become disorganized. It wasn't okay at parties to blame blacks or religions for our problems.

Beck is a rallying point for people who feel that way and he has allowed them to come back out of hiding.

Its not his fault, really. I mean, times are tough and everyone needs someone to blame. Having Obama as the foil to work against, the black president who can serve as the presentation piece to blame everything on lazy black people on welfare, may just work out for Beck and the GOP after all.


Like I said, Beck has made it okay to say that out loud again.
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I'm laughing my ass off at this gem of a post. Why don't you ask Dr. King's niece who spoke at Beck's rally whether or not she thinks he's fostering racism?
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did anyone faint while listening to Beck's sonorous voice read off the teleprompter?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I understand that a lot of people are willing, and indeed want, to excuse away a lot of what he does simply as entertainment that antagonizes.

But I personally think he has gone well past that point. Now, there is no way that he can rise to power like Hitler did. The world is too savvy a place for that, now. But he can sure do some damage to race relations, religious tolerance, education reform, etc.

I think what the real threat is here is that he is making it okay again to hate. It is almost in vogue. For a long time this underbelly of our country had lost its way, it had become disorganized. It wasn't okay at parties to blame blacks or religions for our problems.
Beck is a rallying point for people who feel that way and he has allowed them to come back out of hiding.

Its not his fault, really. I mean, times are tough and everyone needs someone to blame. Having Obama as the foil to work against, the black president who can serve as the presentation piece to blame everything on lazy black people on welfare, may just work out for Beck and the GOP after all.


Like I said, Beck has made it okay to say that out loud again.
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"It wasn't okay at parties to blame blacks or religions for our problems."

So now days is it okay to blame or religions for our problems???? What kind of parties are you going to??? Maybe you should try a Tea-Party, they don't do that, blame blacks and religion that is!
 
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lawgator1 said:
.... that Beck's rally this morning is not political? The headline speakers are he and Sarah Palin.

Beck has a lot of similarity to another charismatic speaker from the 1930s. Big rallies. Convinced people all their problems were caused by some other defined groups. Claimed to be channeling a greater power.

The man is dangerous.
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I doubt the rally would have even gotten a mention on here if you hadn't brought it up.
 
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lawgator1 said:
.... that Beck's rally this morning is not political? The headline speakers are he and Sarah Palin.

Beck has a lot of similarity to another charismatic speaker from the 1930s. Big rallies. Convinced people all their problems were caused by some other defined groups. Claimed to be channeling a greater power.

The man is dangerous.
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you mean FDR, right? I mean, you can't be referring to Hitler, who the American progressive movement absolutely adored right up to the moment the ovens were discovered in Dachau.
 
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LG at times I think you just stir the pot but if you believe what you posted then I really just don't know what to think
 
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lawgator1 said:
On this subject I confess I am not a moderate. The man is appealing to, if not the worst in American society, close to it. He has tapped into an enormous sea of fear at change, at diversity, at loss of control.
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No matter what you think of him you can't honestly believe he's more guilty of this than our leaders.
 
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volinbham said:
No matter what you think of him you can't honestly believe he's more guilty of this than our leaders.
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Period.

Difference: Beck isn't running for office or pissing away money. Our elected officials are spending others' money and promising more free cheese.

The idea that he's more dangerous than Obama is absurd.
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lawgator1 said:
.... that Beck's rally this morning is not political? The headline speakers are he and Sarah Palin.

Beck has a lot of similarity to another charismatic speaker from the 1930s. Big rallies. Convinced people all their problems were caused by some other defined groups. Claimed to be channeling a greater power.

The man is dangerous.
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Yeah... except that man wanted to empower gov't more and people less... he had thugs that intimidated the opposition... he had a media machine that ran his propaganda... he made big promises about taking from an evil rich group and returning wealth to its rightful owners... he found allies in Muslims and enemies in Jews... he believed in some private ownership of business but that gov't should control production and profit... labor adored him... he mocked the intelligence of his opponents or out and out demonized them... before outlawing them. (Notably Obama's Admin has tried to find a way to kill Fox News and talk radio)

Yeah, that sounds like a notable American figure now on the scene... but it isn't Beck.

The point of Beck's whole message is that people should appreciate their freedom by becoming self dependent and by opposing gov't control. How could that EVER result in a fascist/leftis/totalitarian state?

BTW, the media RAVED about the crowds Obama drew during the campaign with his EMPTY "hope and change" rallies.


You could well be the most blind person I've ever run across.
 
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lawgator1 said:
But I personally think he has gone well past that point. Now, there is no way that he can rise to power like Hitler did. The world is too savvy a place for that, now.
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The fact that Obama became President categorically disproves this assertion. Even if you agree with him you cannot say A) he was qualified for the office or B) he was vetted by the MSM. Even the Clintons complained about it.

But he can sure do some damage to race relations, religious tolerance, education reform, etc.
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How so? By affirming on a consistent basis the Constitutional principles that people should be able to peacefully worship as they please, extend the same rights to all, demand the same responsiblity from all, and to REALLY reform education by putting it back in the hands of the people by stripping control from liberal elites?

I think what the real threat is here is that he is making it okay again to hate. It is almost in vogue. For a long time this underbelly of our country had lost its way, it had become disorganized. It wasn't okay at parties to blame blacks or religions for our problems.
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yeah it was Beck followers who beat a black conservative in MO... um no, that was Obama's SEIU thugs. Maybe it was the KKK standing at a poling place with clubs shouting racist comments at black voters... ummm no. Maybe there has been a huge rise in white on black crime cutting into the 8000% greater likelihood of black on white crime?

You need to either put up your proof or get a clue.

YOU and those like you are doing far more to foment hatred and racial antagonism than Beck ever has or even could.

Beck is a rallying point for people who feel that way and he has allowed them to come back out of hiding.
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There is a nugget of truth here. The REAL Americans are finding their voices again and they're saying NO! to Progressives and statists... They're finally not wilting when false charges of racism and such are hurled at them. They aren't afraid of the left's lies any more.

So in that respect, thank goodness for people like Beck.

Tell us honestly what you really, really fear if Beck and those who agree with him actually influence public policy. Do you think institutional racism will return? It won't. Do you think gays will be hanged in the public square? They won't.

What is it about Beck but more specifically his message of rights, freedom, and responsibility terrifies you so much?
 
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So let me get this straight LG, Glenn Beck is a danger to society and Hitler-like (I'm sorry but that one was absolute gold) because he speaks his mind on television and holds rallies? (all under his and all Americans' constitutional rights of course...)

If you're serious, you're more of a danger to this country than Glenn Beck or Chris Matthews or any other of the major political show hosts could ever be...
 
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volinbham said:
LG at times I think you just stir the pot but if you believe what you posted then I really just don't know what to think
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I have had this same thought more than once when reading through his threads and individual posts. LG is in denial just as many republicans were concerning Bush and the way the republican party was running the country.
 
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i still haven't seen a single statement from beck that even implies racism or breeding hatred. it's absurd. he is what he is. a drunk DJ who found jesus (one addiction for another) and realized he could make a lot more money being political than he could making fart jokes at 6am.
 
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lawgator1 said:
But I personally think he has gone well past that point. Now, there is no way that he can rise to power like Hitler did. The world is too savvy a place for that, now. But he can sure do some damage to race relations, religious tolerance, education reform, etc.
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you would think so but Obama proved that wrong

and you should read up on this

Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

it's getting to be like "Name That Tune" with your posts LG- I predict Godwin's law in 3 posts
 
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droski said:
i still haven't seen a single statement from beck that even implies racism or breeding hatred. it's absurd. he is what he is. a drunk DJ who found jesus (one addiction for another) and realized he could make a lot more money being political than he could making fart jokes at 6am.
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dude, come on, you've been around here long enough to know that lg doesn't need to actually hear him say these things. he knows what everyone thinks and what their "true" intentions are.
 
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kev20 said:
dude, come on, you've been around here long enough to know that lg doesn't need to actually hear him say these things. he knows what everyone thinks and what their "true" intentions are.
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actually Joe Sixpack sent him a secret tape from backstage at the event. LG and JS are tight like that
 
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lawgator1 said:
I understand that a lot of people are willing, and indeed want, to excuse away a lot of what he does simply as entertainment that antagonizes.

But I personally think he has gone well past that point. Now, there is no way that he can rise to power like Hitler did. The world is too savvy a place for that, now. But he can sure do some damage to race relations, religious tolerance, education reform, etc.

I think what the real threat is here is that he is making it okay again to hate. It is almost in vogue. For a long time this underbelly of our country had lost its way, it had become disorganized. It wasn't okay at parties to blame blacks or religions for our problems.

Beck is a rallying point for people who feel that way and he has allowed them to come back out of hiding.

Its not his fault, really. I mean, times are tough and everyone needs someone to blame. Having Obama as the foil to work against, the black president who can serve as the presentation piece to blame everything on lazy black people on welfare, may just work out for Beck and the GOP after all.

Like I said, Beck has made it okay to say that out loud again.
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ur such a crying b***h, u bring race into every single topic, and now its hate that GB is bringing back, and oh poor obama, he's the black president who gets blamed for everything. fact of the matter is genius that the majority of ppl aren't in favor for his health care plan, nor believe he knows what he's doing on economics and foreign relations. its not a race issue, but somehow u believe the GOP is all about hating the black man. you couldn't be further from the truth
 
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Lg would have you believe that everyone who has questioned Obama on anything is dressed in white sheets.
 
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