Does anyone buy the fact the committee did us a favor?

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Cartervol

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In saying that keeping us home basically. In a way i'd say its good. But we drew the toughest bracket possible.

I don't know i just hope we play some defense to shut up the naysayers. I'am tired of hearing about how butler or louisville will beat us.
Also their lovefest with carolina is sickening.
 
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Cartervol said:
In saying that keeping us home bascially. In away i'd say its good. But we drew the toughest bracket possible.

I don't know i just hope we play some defense to shut up the naysayers. I'am tired of hearing about how butler or louisville will beat us.
Also their lovefest with carolina is sickening.
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no doubt it's a favor for the fans and regional TV ratings, but we got jobbed.

I'm not upset with the fact that it's UNC, as much as I am the open point that they're the number 1 overall seed implies that we're the overall 8th seed. That's highway robbery.
 
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'Keeping Tennessee close to home' was their excuse for giving us the shaft, no more, no less.

They sure kept Duke 'close to home' when they did them a favor by awarding a 2 seed, didn't they?

Sorry, hard to thank them for hosing us and then backhanding us by putting us in the hardest region in the Tournament..
 
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We did get a tough draw... but it wouldn't have happened if we didn't continue to royally suck in post season tournaments, most recently our lackluster win over a mediocre SC team and loss to Arkansas.

Here is our chance to start changing our post season legacy.

While we're disappointed in the lack of #1 seed... I do think that being a #2 could help from a motivational standpoint. And playing in B-ham we will get quite a few more fans than some locations we could have played.

We just need to make some lemonade.
 
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I agree with the commentary that Tennessee fans love Bruce Pearl and others ( some media, probably most coaches) seem to have a problem with him. I think if things are close or equal in making decisons like this seeding process, the decision will go against Pearl (and thus the Vols). Still I would not trade Bruce for anyone.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
no doubt it's a favor for the fans and regional TV ratings, but we got jobbed.

I'm not upset with the fact that it's UNC, as much as I am the open point that they're the number 1 overall seed implies that we're the overall 8th seed. That's highway robbery.
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Even though the committee indeed announced that UNC was their #1 overall, I do not buy it when looking at the regions. UNC probably has the toughest region of any of the #1 seeds. The only "easy" part is they are playing the whole thing in the state of North Carolina.

Personally, I would say that KU has the easiest region. G'Town is up there with Duke as the weakest #2 in the bracket and Wisconsin and Vandy are a pretty weak #3 and #4, respectively.

Aside from geography (something they were hammered on the past two years), I do not believe that this committee took any second weekend implications into their thought process of laying out the field.
 
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therealUT said:
Even though the committee indeed announced that UNC was their #1 overall, I do not buy it when looking at the regions. UNC probably has the toughest region of any of the #1 seeds. The only "easy" part is they are playing the whole thing in the state of North Carolina.

Personally, I would say that KU has the easiest region. G'Town is up there with Duke as the weakest #2 in the bracket and Wisconsin and Vandy are a pretty weak #3 and #4, respectively.

I do not believe that this committee took any second weekend implications into their thought process of laying out the field.
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the West is pretty handily the weakest bracket to me. G'town is probably being viewed by the committee as the toughest 2 seed. Wisconsin and Louisville were clearly the class of the 3s. Xavier can't play with either of those teams.
 
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To paraphrase Steve Hamer last night... it's more about the name on the front of the jerseys at this time of the year. I have a hard time believing they thought they were doing us a favor when you look at some of the other seeds (i.e. Duke). Hopefully UT will shove it down their throats.
 
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volsforever27 said:
To paraphrase Steve Hamer last night... it's more about the name on the front of the jerseys at this time of the year. I have a hard time believing they thought they were doing us a favor when you look at some of the other seeds (i.e. Duke). Hopefully UT will shove it down their throats.
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I believe that Duke and UNC actually benefit by not sharing the Raleigh pod. If they did, you would have UNC fans avidly cheering against Duke and vice versa. I am quite surprised the K-State ended up in the Omaha pod for that very reason.

It has little to do with the name on the front of the jerseys. UT lost to Arkansas while UNC, KU, and UCLA were winning their conference tournaments. If the selection committee is seeding by how good a shot each team has at winning it all, then playing two crappy games in a tournament setting certainly reflects very poorly on UT, in that category.

"Boo-hoo, the whole world hates Tennessee...":cray:
 
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therealUT said:
I believe that Duke and UNC actually benefit by not sharing the Raleigh pod. If they did, you would have UNC fans avidly cheering against Duke and vice versa. I am quite surprised the K-State ended up in the Omaha pod for that very reason.

It has little to do with the name on the front of the jerseys. UT lost to Arkansas while UNC, KU, and UCLA were winning their conference tournaments. If the selection committee is seeding by how good a shot each team has at winning it all, then playing two crappy games in a tournament setting certainly reflects very poorly on UT, in that category.

"Boo-hoo, the whole world hates Tennessee...":cray:
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I think a two seed is fair. What i don't agree with is being put in the same region with the number one overall. Most years that would mean were the worst two seed.
We should be in kansas's bracket if were the odd man out of the one seed's as they claim.
 
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therealUT said:
I believe that Duke and UNC actually benefit by not sharing the Raleigh pod. If they did, you would have UNC fans avidly cheering against Duke and vice versa. I am quite surprised the K-State ended up in the Omaha pod for that very reason.

It has little to do with the name on the front of the jerseys. UT lost to Arkansas while UNC, KU, and UCLA were winning their conference tournaments. If the selection committee is seeding by how good a shot each team has at winning it all, then playing two crappy games in a tournament setting certainly reflects very poorly on UT, in that category.

"Boo-hoo, the whole world hates Tennessee...":cray:
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surely your not implying that the two UNC debacles against two mediocre teams, neither of which could be Arky, somehow supported a 1 seed. They played terribly in both games.
 
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The only way to truly prove your worth is to beat the best.

I look forward to seeing how the team responds to this challenge, starting on Friday, followed by a difficult test in either S. Ala. or Butler.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
surely your not implying that the two UNC debacles against two mediocre teams, neither of which could be Arky, somehow supported a 1 seed. They played terribly in both games.
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I stated earlier, or in another thread, that I personally do not see UNC as the #1 overall seed. So, I really do believe UNC was penalized (although the committee will stick to their guns that they are the #1 overall) for shoddy play in the ACC Tournament.
 
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therealUT said:
I stated earlier, or in another thread, that I personally do not see UNC as the #1 overall seed. So, I really do believe UNC was penalized (although the committee will stick to their guns that they are the #1 overall) for shoddy play in the ACC Tournament.
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but you said we got our seeding of 2 based upon the committee's view of our likelihood of winning it all and that said view was cemented by our shoddy play in the SECT. Well UNC played every bit as poorly against two substantially worse opponents, but weren't downgraded. I understand that they won, but a buzzer beater against a non-tourney VaTech team was a downright pathetic effort. Our Arky game was better, even in a loss.

We was robbed.
 
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The committee had nothing to do with this. They were given an order from on high (the NCAA) that the priority was to keep the top seeds as close to home as possible (see Duke in DC for their first and second round games) and that the higher ranked teams should be kept closest to home. Balancing the bracket is secondary to keeping teams close to home. As a result you have the top 1 and the top 2 in the same bracket. It's a joke and everybody on the committee knows it, but they have to operate under that mandate.
 
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torchb said:
The committee had nothing to do with this. They were given an order from on high (the NCAA) that the priority was to keep the top seeds as close to home as possible (see Duke in DC for their first and second round games) and that the higher ranked teams should be kept closest to home. Balancing the bracket is secondary to keeping teams close to home. As a result you have the top 1 and the top 2 in the same bracket. It's a joke and everybody on the committee knows it, but they have to operate under that mandate.
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There have been years, especially pre Pearl, when Tennessee was hoping against hope to just get in the Big Dance. Now we're talking about a possible #1 seed before the selection committee publicizes the bracket. I say take our spot and kick ass against whoever gets put on the floor with the guys. There aren't any paths to the Final Four paved with cupcakes.
 
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therealUT said:
I stated earlier, or in another thread, that I personally do not see UNC as the #1 overall seed. So, I really do believe UNC was penalized (although the committee will stick to their guns that they are the #1 overall) for shoddy play in the ACC Tournament.
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Interesting theory. I think the first weekend in Raleigh? and the second weekend in Charlotte was considered to be such a HUGE advantage, that giving them the lesser seeds in addition would've looked like they were laying out the red carpet for North Carolina.

Speaking from experience in 2007, playing in the East against North Carolina just might be better than being shipped to the West to play UCLA. Been there, done that. If you read the KU message boards, the consensus was we would take any seed rather than be sent West again--partly because we only have about 3 alumni there!-

By the way, having KU and the KSU-USC matchup both in the opening round in Omaha has created a ticket nightmare. My son lives in Omaha, and he says as soon as the bracket came out, the first round tickets were instantly being scalped for $250 apiece and the price is still going up.
 
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I did not like the seeding but don't think UT is being singled out or penalized. The selection committee is not making an attempt at fairness, their first priority is to fill seats in arenas. If you look at it from that perspective I think they did a good job. Actually I felt our seeding the previous 2 seasons was higher than deserved especially the surprise #2 seeding. UNC gets knocked off and this is a great bracket all of a sudden. Its for sure the national champion can easily beat American, Butler and Louiville so lets play ball!
 
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hmanvolfan said:
There have been years, especially pre Pearl, when Tennessee was hoping against hope to just get in the Big Dance. Now we're talking about a possible #1 seed before the selection committee publicizes the bracket. I say take our spot and kick ass against whoever gets put on the floor with the guys. There aren't any paths to the Final Four paved with cupcakes.
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Good point...
 
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