Dobbs passing vs. Vandy

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He was bad at passing last year and about the same this year. As a QB in SEC I would give his passing ( 1-10 ) a 5.
 
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Well according to the guy sitting behind me at the game, Dobbs is awful, Butch Jones runs stupid junk plays, Lane is awful and has no vision, Croom sucks, Alton Howard is overrated, and essentially the entire team is terrible with no talent.

Surprised we made it to a bowl. Looking forward to the incoming freshmen starting over what we already have.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Are we going to see a mental block from Dobbs against Vandy like our whole team has every year against Florida?

Josh Dobbs starting vs Vandy:

2 Games
145 Yards
0 TD
4 INT

Likely could have had 4+ INT's against them this year. Are they in his head at this point?
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Answer: no. By end of season, the O line is a patch-work, 1st and 3rd rbs are injured, multiple wr's injured, and so we just vanilla-down the playbook to get through a game where we are favored. We take our win and go.

P.S. Dobbs has still not started one whole season's worth of games. We know he is a smart guy; he will continue to learn the O, reading D's and making snap judgments on the field.
 
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mtennvol said:
Well according to the guy sitting behind me at the game, Dobbs is awful, Butch Jones runs stupid junk plays, Lane is awful and has no vision, Croom sucks, Alton Howard is overrated, and essentially the entire team is terrible with no talent.

Surprised we made it to a bowl. Looking forward to the incoming freshmen starting over what we already have.
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so you was the clown in front of me. Lol
 
#32
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Dobbs engineered another long drive 95 yards to be exact. He had two 80 yard drives against Bama

Injuries in both games, conservative play calling and both being must win games are just fuel to the fire.

He is going to be fine. Vandy finally got their act together and we were one dimensional on offense.

we have Paralysis of Analysis on Volnation.
 
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its hard to judge dobbs on anything we saw saturday. with hurd out, wr injuries, and oline injuries any qb would play that bad.
 
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Not only did the OL regress, but for some reason we always seem to play like doo-doo against Vandy. Call it a let down....trap game...maybe we view them as annoying little brothers...whatever, but even Peyton had bad games against lowly Vandy.

Bray looked good against many teams, but always seemed to regress against Vandy as well. Don't know what it is. I personally think we just underestimate them each year and just sort of "write it in." And they somehow get up for the game in ways they never seem to with other SEC opponents.
 
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Aesius said:
And the TEs were blocking on almost every play. Dobbs, like Bajakian, was handcuffed during both Vandy games.

Next year he will look significantly better provided the OL can pass block for more than two seconds and North, Pig, Smith, Pearson, Malone, Wolf, and Helm are healthy.
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With all the hurt WRs, I'd like to have a "Jumbo" package with 3 TEs...two for blocking and one on a pass route.

Also get everybody bunched up and let Von take it out wide on a sweep.
 
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Check Mannings stats vs Vandy. More times than not they play over their heads against us - especially on defense
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
When you only have 2 receivers who can get seperation that is very easy to defend. Just put a safety in each side and never worry about it.
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We played two teams who had one receiver that could get separation, A.Cooper and P.Cooper. Both had career days.
 
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Based on Vandy games, Peyton Manning was a pretty terrible QB. Of course, that's why one game doesn't make a player's career or season.

Manning vs. Vandy:

1994 - 10-16, 141 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT - 65-0 win
1995 - 26-42, 265 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT - 12-7 win
1996 - 17-35, 163 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT - 14-7 win
1997 - 12-27, 159 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT - 17-10 win
 
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kell7517 said:
We played two teams who had one receiver that could get separation, A.Cooper and P.Cooper. Both had career days.
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Neither were their team's only good receivers and both are probably the two best receivers we've played against in a long time.

Amari Cooper is probably one of the best receivers we've ever played against. Thank god he's going to the NFL.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
I yell this about 40 times per game actually. He should be in motion on every snap. Look at the game-tying TD at the end of the SC game, or the 2-point conversion against Mizzou.

In the 2-point conversion, Dobbs takes the snap, goes right, the O-line and blockers go with him. It was successful because Mizzou covered all the receivers which gave Dobbs room to run.

This is our offense. Not that sitting duck garbage Bajakian thinks is successful.
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I agree. They keep trying to force the drop back pass, but it simply doesnt fit our offense in any way, shape or form.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Based on Vandy games, Peyton Manning was a pretty terrible QB. Of course, that's why one game doesn't make a player's career or season.

Manning vs. Vandy:

1994 - 10-16, 141 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT - 65-0 win
1995 - 26-42, 265 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT - 12-7 win
1996 - 17-35, 163 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT - 14-7 win
1997 - 12-27, 159 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT - 17-10 win
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Wow, looks like the greatest qb in our program's history had some pretty severe accuracy issues vs Vanderbilt. He couldn't hit the broadside of a barn against 4 Vandy teams that were a collective 12-32.
 
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1. gotta play him and call plays to his strengths

2. the biggest thing here is his record vs Candy is 1-1 and the win sent us bowlin

3. if passing was all he does or did, this would mean so much more. since he makes so many good plays with his feet, well you know........
 
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KBVol said:
Wow, looks like the greatest qb in our program's history had some pretty severe accuracy issues vs Vanderbilt. He couldn't hit the broadside of a barn against 4 Vandy teams that were a collective 12-32.
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Throw that broken hand Peterman to the wolves. He's obviously better than Dobbs. Have you not watched hours of summer camp passing drills?
 
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Sikerth said:
We saw the Dobbs that Butch saw in practice and got bashed for not starting. People act like they know the players better than the coaches do.

I think he was successful early because of defenses that were either bad or not prepared for him. Vandy benefits from getting him late.
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Has anyone ever considered the OL that does was behind in practice was the 2's most of the time and as we all now know, the 1's aren't very good either. It's hard to make good reads when defenders are in your face within 2 sec of receiving the snap. So yes, Dobbs may have been subpar in some practices, but it doesn't matter who is back there, they gonna look terrible behind our OL. Worley is a senior and was given the nod, but there wasn't much separation between the two. Plus, everyone now also knows the staff wanted to RS Dobbs too. I agree he didn't tear it up against Vandy, but everyone has bad games. Let's hope he has a career game in the Bowl and put this behind us and look to next year.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
How is it a bad play call because a freshman WR runs the wrong route?
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That's not what SmokeySC said. He gave one play as an example of miscommunication, then added miscommunication to the list of what he saw as contributing factors to the bad passing game, so that the list became "miscommunication, bad throws, and bad play-calling."
 
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chargervol said:
I was thinking the same.
I still like Dobbs but I don't see why it is so hard to say he was inaccurate against Vandy.
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I think nearly everyone is agreed that he had a bad day throwing the ball, what they're not agreed on is why. It seems to swing all the way from "nobody could have thrown better given the circumstances" to "he hasn't made a good throw all year, either in practice or in games."
 
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