Dobbs passing vs. Vandy

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Are we going to see a mental block from Dobbs against Vandy like our whole team has every year against Florida?

Josh Dobbs starting vs Vandy:

2 Games
145 Yards
0 TD
4 INT

Likely could have had 4+ INT's against them this year. Are they in his head at this point?
 
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In my humble opinion, Dobbs is a much better passer *when he's moving out of the pocket ala '09 Crompton. I think he struggles to make reads in the pocket behind our struggling line.
 
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Wolfeman_Vol said:
In my humble opinion, Dobbs is a much better passer *when he's moving out of the pocket ala '09 Crompton. I think he struggles to make reads in the pocket behind our struggling line.
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I yell this about 40 times per game actually. He should be in motion on every snap. Look at the game-tying TD at the end of the SC game, or the 2-point conversion against Mizzou.

In the 2-point conversion, Dobbs takes the snap, goes right, the O-line and blockers go with him. It was successful because Mizzou covered all the receivers which gave Dobbs room to run.

This is our offense. Not that sitting duck garbage Bajakian thinks is successful.
 
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We saw the Dobbs that Butch saw in practice and got bashed for not starting. People act like they know the players better than the coaches do.

I think he was successful early because of defenses that were either bad or not prepared for him. Vandy benefits from getting him late.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Are we going to see a mental block from Dobbs against Vandy like our whole team has every year against Florida?

Josh Dobbs starting vs Vandy:

2 Games
145 Yards
0 TD
4 INT

Likely could have had 4+ INT's against them this year. Are they in his head at this point?
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Chatt, you're a good poster. This thread is beneath you IMO.
 
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fade route said:
Chatt, you're a good poster. This thread is beneath you IMO.
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This isn't to bash him. Just a thought, some players see other certain teams and freak out, and I think at this point that could be happening with Dobbs and Vandy. Just curious if anyone else feels the same way.
 
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We were down our best WR in both games. And this year we were also down Malone. I think only 3 players caught a pass.
 
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And the TEs were blocking on almost every play. Dobbs, like Bajakian, was handcuffed during both Vandy games.

Next year he will look significantly better provided the OL can pass block for more than two seconds and North, Pig, Smith, Pearson, Malone, Wolf, and Helm are healthy.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
We were down our best WR in both games. And this year we were also down Malone. I think only 3 players caught a pass.
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chatt-townVOL said:
I yell this about 40 times per game actually. He should be in motion on every snap. Look at the game-tying TD at the end of the SC game, or the 2-point conversion against Mizzou.

In the 2-point conversion, Dobbs takes the snap, goes right, the O-line and blockers go with him. It was successful because Mizzou covered all the receivers which gave Dobbs room to run.

This is our offense. Not that sitting duck garbage Bajakian thinks is successful.
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On the money here guys. Both years we've been so beat up by the vandy game he doesn't have much to throw to. He also made some bad throws too. Him being a better on the run thrower also explains why he looks inconsistent in practice. If he's simply running drills, he would make throws like in the vandy game.

His best passes in the vandy game were out of the pocket throws across the field.
 
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fade route said:
And one was a RB. No weapons for Dobbs.
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Eh. I'm not buying this as an excuse for Dobbs performance. The 2 weapons he DID have are our best WR's at seperating themselves from the defender. They were getting open.

Plus we are completely stacked at tight end now and they are great options to go to. Now to be fair, Bajakian wasn't calling plays where he was using Tight Ends as receivers, but when he did I don't think Dobbs saw them. He threw once to Alex Ellis and it was high.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Eh. I'm not buying this as an excuse for Dobbs performance. The 2 weapons he DID have are our best WR's at seperating themselves.

Plus we are completely stacked at tight end and they great options to go to. Now to be fair, Bajakian wasn't calling plays where he was using Tight Ends as receivers, but when he did I don't think Dobbs saw them. He threw once to Alex Ellis and it was high.
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When you only have 2 receivers who can get seperation that is very easy to defend. Just put a safety in each side and never worry about it.
 
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I recall one the INT's where dobbs threw short and wharton went long. So miss-communication , bad throws and play calling as well..

I seriously doubt Vandy is in Dobb's head .
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Eh. I'm not buying this as an excuse for Dobbs performance. The 2 weapons he DID have are our best WR's at seperating themselves from the defender. They were getting open.

Plus we are completely stacked at tight end now and they are great options to go to. Now to be fair, Bajakian wasn't calling plays where he was using Tight Ends as receivers, but when he did I don't think Dobbs saw them. He threw once to Alex Ellis and it was high.
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They really weren't. And he didn't really have enough time to wait for them to get open anyway.
 
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SmokeySC said:
I recall one the INT's where dobbs threw short and wharton went long. So miss-communication , bad throws and play calling as well..

I seriously doubt Vandy is in Dobb's head .
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How is it a bad play call because a freshman WR runs the wrong route?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
We were down our best WR in both games. And this year we were also down Malone. I think only 3 players caught a pass.
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That's true but that still doesn't take away the fact that the majority of his passes were extremely inaccurate and should have had atleast 2 other interceptions. He had Wolf wide open down the middle and badly missed him. Hopefully his accuracy improves because he won't be able to run it 20 times a gamefotr a whole season. He takes way too many bad hits and is very reckless with his body. A few times I honestly wondered if he would be able to get up.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
This isn't to bash him. Just a thought, some players see other certain teams and freak out, and I think at this point that could be happening with Dobbs and Vandy. Just curious if anyone else feels the same way.
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So he lit up Alabama . . . but he's got a mental block when he sees a Commodore helmet?
 
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I doubt that Vandy is in Dobb's head, but Dobbs is not a good passer. Now, he will throw some good passes, but many are high or behind the receiver. He doesn't always make good decisions when he throws. Some of the reasons are the times he has been given to throw and the people who he is throwing to, but a lot of it is on him. He compensates well with his feet, but the turnovers get you beat.
 
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Sikerth said:
We saw the Dobbs that Butch saw in practice and got bashed for not starting. People act like they know the players better than the coaches do.

I think he was successful early because of defenses that were either bad or not prepared for him. Vandy benefits from getting him late.
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Dobbs was shaky against Vandy, but we are still a better offense with him than we were with Worley. You are almost ALWAYS better off with an athletic QB who can run. You can't overstate it. As good as Manning was, what did we win with him--1 SEC title. Next year, with Martin, we won the Big Taco. What did we do with all the passing statues we've had for 12+ years before Dobbs? Nothing. Look at Manziel: Not a great passer but very elusive and not only wins the Heisman but wins a lot of games for a A&M team that was expected to do little--including beat bama. Lack of athleticism at the QB position has been one of our obvious weaknesses. Dobbs needs work on his passing technique--for one thing, getting the ball up near his shoulder so that he can release it more quickly. And we still have issues with our wide receivers. We have 1--count 'em, 1--dependable guy in Howard. North has been banged up most of the year and useless; Smith hurt, Croom not fast enough to be a bona fide WR, Pearson and Malone still learning the game. And has others have noted, our QBs simply could not stand in the pocket this year with our porous offensive line. The passing game must get a lot better if we want to be a good team next year--Dobbs, receivers, including TEs (who done very little), and, first and foremost, better protection up front.
 
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