Do you support Dooley's stance on Arnett?

Do you support Dooley's stance on Arnett?

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#251
#251
Several Points:

1. If Arnett's father has gotten worse than his original state when Arnett signed with us in February, then yes, I would let him go. If he has not gotten worse, then I see no more reason for DeAnthony to be able to go then he would have had in february. DeAnthony cannot transfer until after the school year. His LOI states he must stay one full school year.

2. If his father is not in a worse situation, DeAnthony should not be allowed to play at either Michigan or Michigan State unless losing a year of eligibility at the very least. A LOI does not mean you can stay for one year and then do whatever you please. He made a commitment, and you cannot bail out on your school and use a sick father as a copout.

3. If Dooley does let DeAnthony go (which he undoubtedly will have to), then it should be reported by Dooley that his father truly was in a worse medical state then he was in February when DeAnthony signed on, and that he will be allowed to play at any institution he chooses.

4. However, if Dooley lets him go despite the fact that his father is not in a worse state, then it should be reported that DeAnthony desired to go home to be with his family, though his father's health has not dramatically decreased, and that because of that decision, he will not be allowed to play at the University of Michigan or Michigan State University.

5. We have to be careful about passing judgment in this situation. A situation similar to this got us Alex Bullard. Luckily, Notre Dame did not hold it against us and tell him he could not transfer to us. However, to me, I feel like the key is has DeAnthony's father's health taken such a turn for the worse that it would be imperative for Arnett to be there in case he does not live any longer. Or, has his father's health just became more dehabilitating and not more life threatening. Big difference.

Just my thoughts. Dooley can't just teach commitment and team and cut someone loose just because they wanna leave.
 
#252
#252
He should, he shouldn't, he should, he .....

Is it true his application for an NCAA hardship ruling was denied? If so - there's your answer. Dad's was the same before he came to UT. Also, parents sign with the recruit on the documents when the recruit is under 21. He is.

Stop and think about it. He lets folks back home know he ain't happy or that CB is leaving - whatever. Family or friends notify his former recruiters at MSU or MU, or whoever to see if there is room for a transfer. The schools say, yes - come home - try the hardship route first.

This stuff happens all of the time. Don't think for one second that some guys on our team have not been approached through indirect methods to transfer. You are living in la-la land if you think otherwise. Knowing that happens, and maybe knowing more than what has been played out in the press - UT says fine, you can go now but to no BCS teams. Uh-oh, the gig is up. Whah!

If Dad is worse, what are you waiting on son - get home and be with Dad. School is the least of your issues. But regardless, play by the rules.
 
#253
#253
Absolutely ****ing NO. Kid cannot hurt us,and it shows that football/competing is more important than family,to some folks anyhow
 
#254
#254
4everorange said:
Absolutely ****ing NO. Kid cannot hurt us,and it shows that football/competing is more important than family,to some folks anyhow
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It really isn't about football/competing. Because we ALL know that the kid isn't coming back to play football for us. Even if he suited up, he wouldn't do nothing. It's not about football at all.

It's about "Is this a kid who is trying to get out of a commitment that he made and that his parents made" or "Is this a situation that the father of a young man is severely ill and that it would torture a young man to not be there with his father?" That's the situation.

Know the situation before you say something.
 
#255
#255
You're forgetting that Deanthony's father was never there for him. Why would he give a crap about his dad now, after he's been sick after he was 14 and signed a LOI to Tennessee?
 
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#258
#258
hog88 said:
If your kid was on an athletic scholarship, doing good in school along with their sport I would find you unbielivably selfish to want you kid to give that up to be near you. Come on, what can they do for you and still carry the load of a full time D1 athlete and student?

The answer nothing, all you can do for them is drag them down!
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It is all hypothetical anyways, because my kid passed up a full ride to MSU to go to UT and be closer to Family. :)
(Ive got a great kid)

I agree with you. No argument. If my kid wanted to transfer to be closer to me, it would depend on my condition I guess, but I most likely would be telling my kid to honor the commitment. (I wouldnt let my kid play for "a coach" anyways, my kid is there for the education)

Too much guess work in this whole thing. We only know half truths about the whole situation. We can speculate, and hypothesize all we want, but anything can be refuted, rebuffed, twisted around, because it is all just conjecture anyways.
 
#259
#259
If his dad really is critically ill and may pass away soon--why does it matter where he plays football? IF HE really wants to go back home because of family issues--CDD is not stopping him--pack up and get your butt home...If he thinks he can make it to the NFL, then 1 year off of FB won't hurt him and he can spend more time with his dad--IF his dad is really that critically ill!

CDD is being completely reasonable and DA is attempting to hold him hostage in the media...typical spoiled brat behavior! :salute:
 
#261
#261
TNHopeful505 said:
And the voice of reason comes out...
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Internet sarcasm isn't very easy to tell. This is obviously not about Arnett's dad issues, because his dad has been sick for many years before this. I just think that Charlie Baggett retiring and other things made him realize he does not want to be here. His dad was not there for him, as his brothers were his father roles his entire life. If his dad really was sick, he would be packing his bags and going to CMU.
 
#265
#265
CountVolcula said:
Well, its like when you date a girl and you tell her you love her in order to knock boots with her. You hit it and leave when you get ready or she decides that you arent all that you claim and she finds someone else

Its a different story once you put the ring on the finger

:hi:
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Ahh, always the romantic.
 
#266
#266
I personally think Dooley is an idiot... Arnett going closer to his dad is a big deal, and he is good enough to play for Michigan - St... Dooley is just scared that he'll go there and recruit kids against Tenn, yet we don't have a single player on our roster from Michigan.. Why can't he just let him go home, be near his dad and let him play at the level he's more than capeable of playing at? This one is all on Dooley for being a straight up idiot. Bryce Brown was one thing, but Arnett's father is ill, and no one knows what might happen to him. Stop playing football for a second and think about this kids future, and his family for 1 split second.. Just ridiculous how much of an idiot our coach is.. Shows hes not a coach, hes a damn lawyer. So stupid. (And yes I am mad, so don't bother giving me some stupid "you mad bro" crap)
 
#267
#267
Eberry said:
I personally think Dooley is an idiot... Arnett going closer to his dad is a big deal, and he is good enough to play for Michigan - St... Dooley is just scared that he'll go there and recruit kids against Tenn, yet we don't have a single player on our roster from Michigan.. Why can't he just let him go home, be near his dad and let him play at the level he's more than capeable of playing at? This one is all on Dooley for being a straight up idiot. Bryce Brown was one thing, but Arnett's father is ill, and no one knows what might happen to him. Stop playing football for a second and think about this kids future, and his family for 1 split second.. Just ridiculous how much of an idiot our coach is.. Shows hes not a coach, hes a damn lawyer. So stupid. (And yes I am mad, so don't bother giving me some stupid "you mad bro" crap)
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then explain this:

"I had heard how recruiting would be, but to be in it, it was like, 'Wow,' " Virginia said. "I felt like I handled it pretty good. DeAnthony did very well, I think because his brothers kind of got involved."

DeAnthony's father "never knew how to be a father," Ralph said, so Virginia relied on her sons to serve as de facto father figures for one another. Ralph looked up to Eric as a father and DeAnthony does the same with Ralph.
 
#268
#268
lexkyvol said:
then explain this:

"I had heard how recruiting would be, but to be in it, it was like, 'Wow,' " Virginia said. "I felt like I handled it pretty good. DeAnthony did very well, I think because his brothers kind of got involved."

DeAnthony's father "never knew how to be a father," Ralph said, so Virginia relied on her sons to serve as de facto father figures for one another. Ralph looked up to Eric as a father and DeAnthony does the same with Ralph.
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People lie to get what they want.
 
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#270
#270
lexkyvol said:
then explain this:

"I had heard how recruiting would be, but to be in it, it was like, 'Wow,' " Virginia said. "I felt like I handled it pretty good. DeAnthony did very well, I think because his brothers kind of got involved."

DeAnthony's father "never knew how to be a father," Ralph said, so Virginia relied on her sons to serve as de facto father figures for one another. Ralph looked up to Eric as a father and DeAnthony does the same with Ralph.
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It's a calculated risk on Dooley's (UT AD's) part because of perception. In the court of public opinion it doesn't matter whether DA's underlying motive is genuine or not. It only matters how it looks. Right now, especially given the MSU and UM are not on our schedule, it looks like this for us:

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#271
#271
Air_Force_Vol27 said:
Arnett doesnt giva a **** about his dad he just wants to play for a good school because he doesnt see us going anywhere right now
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I think it's not only shameful to use an estranged family member's sickness as a "Get out of jail Free" card, but to abandon his teammates as well?

How is Michigan a much better situation? They were sitting in the damn gutter last year, too! Yet they were able to turn it around in one season. Arnett knows as well as anyone, that this team had a white hot offense going into the Florida game, and had Hunter not gone down...Florida would have gone down.

Peyton Manning missing this season at the Colts shows just how dramatic a season can turn when one critical player is missing. Arnett knows that this team is fully capable of lighting the whole conference on fire next season, if they can stay relatively healthy...yet he wants to bail cause Coach Baggett retired.

He should be glad that Dooley offered him as much as he did. Now, he's crying to the media with a letter that sounds like it was written by a 4th grader. When Dooley won't give you a full release, it's because he knows you are full of shiite.
 
#272
#272
zidanefan said:
It's a calculated risk on Dooley's (UT AD's) part because of perception. In the court of public opinion it doesn't matter whether DA's underlying motive is genuine or not. It only matters how it looks. Right now, especially given the MSU and UM are not on our schedule, it looks like this for us:

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I'm not for exposing kids and such, but this kid/ family has gone way too far. I cannot respect the mother for allowing this or their family for that matter. Based on what I've read, this kid is a whiner and they have cont aided this throughout his life so far. I think they should be exposed and used as an example!
 
#274
#274
volornuttin said:
i think it's not only shameful to use an estranged family member's sickness as a "get out of jail free" card, but to abandon his teammates as well?

How is michigan a much better situation? they were sitting in the damn gutter last year, too! yet they were able to turn it around in one season. Arnett knows as well as anyone, that this team had a white hot offense going into the florida game, and had hunter not gone down...florida would have gone down.

Peyton manning missing this season at the colts shows just how dramatic a season can turn when one critical player is missing. Arnett knows that this team is fully capable of lighting the whole conference on fire next season, if they can stay relatively healthy...yet he wants to bail cause hunter is back and the incoming recruits are better than him and dallas and neal emerged late and are better.

He should be glad that dooley offered him as much as he did. Now, he's crying to the media with a letter that sounds like it was written by a 4th grader. When dooley won't give you a full release, it's because he knows you are full of shiite.
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