Do you hate Phillip Fulmer?

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The_Orange_Pearl said:
What?

Why would a sucky lawyer make delicious sandwiches?

Being bad at one thing doesn't mean you're bad at everything. Being a coach and AD aren't even close to the same thing.

Also, why would Fulmer be any better in his first 12 years than his last 4? Because he was... and that's the exact same job. I don't follow your reasoning.
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I see what you're saying, but there is nothing to suggest Fulmer would do a good job.
 
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Also, why would Fulmer be any better in his first 12 years than his last 4?


great question
 
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govols/cc said:
I know what I'm talking about. Garcia is a bum & you are too. Spurriers best years are behind him & USCjr is basically his retirement home to play golf. You guys would hire tressel if it meant a bcs bowl next year. At least spurrier gives y'all a consistent 6-7 wins a season.
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You say you do, yet you present nothing to do with the actual subject at hand, which is Fulmer, because you have no defense. Instead, you try to turn it around onto the school I support. CPF ran UT football into the ground. Now, I know you're going to come back with some BS comeback about us being mediocre, SOS being washed up, etc., but try to keep focused on the topic at hand. The coach you blindly support ran your football program into the ground. Worse yet, he went ten years without winning a championship. It was time for him to go. Try to digest that, kiddo.

You have yet to demonstrate in any thread that you have shown up in that you know what the hell you are talking about. You simply make a statement, and your defense pretty much consists of, 'Well, CPF should have remained the Coach at UT because he should have!' Why don't you go start another thread ripping a kid for earning his College Degree, or call a College Degree a worthless piece of paper? No, you, sir, are the bum. When you earn your college degree, you can comment on how easy or rigorous the process is. Until then, kindly sthu.
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Rudy123 said:
Okay, lets look at it logically! Fulmer knows little to nothing about basketball or baseball. He would have to hire coaches at some point. He decided to hire Dave Clawson. How did that work out???? He decided to promote Randy Sanders from within to Offensive Co ordinator. Other than the National Championship game, how did that work out??? 2001 S.E.C. Championship game? 2004 S.E.C. Championship game?
2007 S.E.C. Championship game?
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Not that it really matters, but pretty sure he was an all-american high school catcher. At least highly touted. I still dont want him as AD, but no need to make stuff up to degrade the man.
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Hate him? Hell no. He was a great Coach and symbol of UT football.

Coach Fulmer represented the University and our football program with integrity and class. The only reason I thought he needed to movbe aside at the end of his career was he wasnt keeping our team up to the level of competiition of the other power SEC schools.

Not opposed to him as AD, but I dont know enough about what the job would really entail and if he fits the qualities it needs...
 
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DarthVisor said:
You say you do, yet you present nothing to do with the actual subject at hand, which is Fulmer, because you have no defense. Instead, you try to turn it around onto the school I support. CPF ran UT football into the ground. Now, I know you're going to come back with some BS comeback about us being mediocre, SOS being washed up, etc., but try to keep focused on the topic at hand. The coach you blindly support ran your football program into the ground. Worse yet, he went ten years without winning a championship. It was time for him to go. Try to digest that, kiddo.

You have yet to demonstrate in any thread that you have shown up in that you know what the hell you are talking about. You simply make a statement, and your defense pretty much consists of, 'Well, CPF should have remained the Coach at UT because he should have!' Why don't you go start another thread ripping a kid for earning his College Degree, or call a College Degree a worthless piece of paper? No, you, sir, are the bum. When you earn your college degree, you can comment on how easy or rigorous the process is. Until then, kindly sthu.
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Lol. Talk about lack of reading comprehension. I never said we weren't ready for a change at head coach. He didn't run the program in the ground either. He was obviously a very fine coach to accomplish what he did & you can't take that away just because he didn't win a championship his last 10 years. Programs & coaches come on hard times eventually. You of all people should know that. I think it was wrong the way Fulmer was let go especially with nobody worth a damn to replace him. Go back to cockytalk or go have a few drinks with your 5th year senior drunk qb. Everytime you defend that guy saying all he did was key a car & the countless drunk episodes & suspensions don't really mean anything shows your ignorance.
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govols/cc said:
Lol. Talk about lack of reading comprehension. I never said we weren't ready for a change at head coach. He didn't run the program in the ground either. He was obviously a very fine coach to accomplish what he did & you can't take that away just because he didn't win a championship his last 10 years. Programs & coaches come on hard times eventually. You of all people should know that. I think it was wrong the way Fulmer was let go especially with nobody worth a damn to replace him. Go back to cockytalk or go have a few drinks with your 5th year senior drunk qb. Everytime you defend that guy saying all he did was key a car & the countless drunk episodes & suspensions don't really mean anything shows your ignorance.
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The only thing wrong about the way he was fired is it didn't happen sooner. But, I wouldn't expect you to be able to understand such a simple concept.
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DarthVisor said:
The only thing wrong about the way he was fired is it didn't happen sooner. But, I wouldn't expect you to be able to understand such a simple concept.
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So if spurrier goes 5-7 this year he should be fired? Gotcha.
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govols/cc said:
So if spurrier goes 5-7 this year he should be fired? Gotcha.
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You're much like CPF in the sense that you are predictable and repetitive. Again, you find no defense for your idiotic position, so you try to turn it around on SC. We may go 7-5, but not 5-7. Regardless, SOS earned his free pass last year. Your boy had losing seasons twice within four seasons of each other. Worse off, SC had not beaten UT since 92 when they beat UT in 05. It's just an example of how competent coaches owned CPF, and how far he let the program fall. No excuse for that game in 05 being remotely close.
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DarthVisor said:
You're much like CPF in the sense that you are predictable and repetitive. Again, you find no defense for your idiotic position, so you try to turn it around on SC. We may go 7-5, but not 5-7. Regardless, SOS earned his free pass last year. Your boy had losing seasons twice within four seasons of each other. Worse off, SC had not beaten UT since 92 when they beat UT in 05. It's just an example of how competent coaches owned CPF.
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What is my position? I never said we weren't ready for a change at HC but who was we gonna get that was better. I'm also not gonna bash the coach that did great things at Tennessee. Things you outsiders have never seen but want to act like you have a right to judge the man. The year before Fulmer was fired he took us to the seccg & was a play or 2 away from winning. Spurrier takes you guys & gets clobbered but gets a free ride? You guys don't have a right to judge anybody or any program with your hypocritical asses. You bring up beating us in 92 & the year after Fulmer became coach. How many years did it take to beat him?
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utvolpj said:
I saw plenty and your eval of him is way off post-January 99 (I could even give him thru 2001)
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All I'm saying is I'm not gonna bash the man. He had 2 bad years. He had 9 seasons with 10 or more wins. The other winning seasons we had three 8 & two 9 respectively. Btw 3 of those 10 win seasons were post 2001 with a 9 & 10 win season sandwiched between our 2 debacle years.
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Snakes on a Wii said:
Just heard this on local radio. A local guy (Memphis) said he can't imagine that anyone actually hates Phillip Fulmer as a person.

However, he said, he knows that people hate him as their football coach.

So let's put it to you VN. Do you hate Phillip Fulmer?

As your football coach?

As your AD?

As a person?
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Hate is a strong word. I prefer loathe, despise or detest (all as the football coach or possible AD). I don't care to know Phil as a person.
 
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Snakes on a Wii said:
Just heard this on local radio. A local guy (Memphis) said he can't imagine that anyone actually hates Phillip Fulmer as a person.

However, he said, he knows that people hate him as their football coach.

So let's put it to you VN. Do you hate Phillip Fulmer?

As your football coach?

As your AD?

As a person?
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fulmer great person, avg football coach, dont want to think about AD.
 
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govols/cc said:
What is my position? I never said we weren't ready for a change at HC but who was we gonna get that was better. I'm also not gonna bash the coach that did great things at Tennessee. Things you outsiders have never seen but want to act like you have a right to judge the man. The year before Fulmer was fired he took us to the seccg & was a play or 2 away from winning. Spurrier takes you guys & gets clobbered but gets a free ride? You guys don't have a right to judge anybody or any program with your hypocritical asses. You bring up beating us in 92 & the year after Fulmer became coach. How many years did it take to beat him?
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I have watched more than enough UT football to know that CPF was ruining a damn good program, which is more more than you can say, evidently. And I was not bragging about beating UT in 05. I was making a point. Let me expand on it for you. We were a pretty bad team in 05. UT should have ran us out of Knoxville. But, what happened? CPF got beat by an inferior team with a coach superior to him. If CPF were truly as good as Fulmerites like you say he was, stuff like that would not have happened.
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Lol omg. We were a pretty bad team in 05. That 15-13 drubbing was from a superior coach? Think we lost to vandy the same year if that tells you much.
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govols/cc said:
All I'm saying is I'm not gonna bash the man. He had 2 bad years. He had 9 seasons with 10 or more wins. The other winning seasons we had three 8 & two 9 respectively. Btw 3 of those 10 win seasons were post 2001 with a 9 & 10 win season sandwiched between our 2 debacle years.
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You can discuss opinions about how he is not qualified for the AD position without bashing.

Some people on this board worship Fulmer and if you state facts, they believe you are a heretic.
 
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govols/cc said:
Lol omg. We were a pretty bad team in 05. That 15-13 drubbing was from a superior coach? Think we lost to vandy the same year if that tells you much.
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Again, you'te missing the poiny. The fact that we were even in that game was a solid indicator that Fulmer's best years were long gone. Losing both to SC and Vandy that year was a pretty solid indication that UT needed to go in a different direction. Why is this so hard to understand?
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DarthVisor said:
Again, you'te missing the poiny. The fact that we were even in that game was a solid indicator that Fulmer's best years were long gone. Losing both to SC and Vandy that year was a pretty solid indication that UT needed to go in a different direction. Why is this so hard to understand?
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Dude we had a bad year! I'm glad you looked at us as the greater team but the fact is it just didn't come together for us that year. All I saw was 2 bad teams that played a close game & that's what it was.
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