Do negavols affect the program? (merged)

Who should "sunshine pumpers" root for instead of UT?

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#251
#251
Surely every poster in this thread must know that recruits and/or parents of recruits frequent this forum; and, have also heard at least one parent of a current player state that all the negativity does in fact have an impact.

But lets just ignore the facts and continue to post our opinions. Ignorance is bliss after all, and we apparently have some posters that are in a constant state of ecstasy.
 
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#252
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Surely every poster in this thread must know that recruits and/or parents of recruits frequent this forum; and, have also heard at least one parent of a current player state that all the negativity does in fact have an impact.

But lets just ignore the facts and continue to post our opinions. Ignorance is bliss after all, and we apparently have some posters that are in a constant state of ecstasy.
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Find me more than 10 recruits in the past 3 years who have openly admitted to making a decision, or basing their decision, on what is said on here.

Good luck. :good!:
 
#253
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PanicVol said:
Save it man, is that really that insulting? You're being a little sensitive.

And no, i think they're delirious and blind.

Serious answer. Sorry for hurting your feelings.
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Dude, you didn't hurt my feelings.. As far as I know it wasn't even directed at me.. My point was, what's the point? We all do it but it's silly stuff like that that gets stuff started...

I know it's not your fault but all this negative ****ing bull**** is dragging this board down and unless you're a drama queen and like to argue all the damn time it's not fun anymore..

Yea, I know... wah wah wah....
 
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m1al said:
Dude, you didn't hurt my feelings.. As far as I know it wasn't even directed at me.. My point was, what's the point? We all do it but it's silly stuff like that that gets stuff started...

I know it's not your fault but all this negative ****ing bull**** is dragging this board down and unless you're a drama queen and like to argue all the damn time it's not fun anymore..

Yea, I know... wah wah wah....
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Just remember, winning cures all. :hi:
 
#255
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Surely every poster in this thread must know that recruits and/or parents of recruits frequent this forum; and, have also heard at least one parent of a current player state that all the negativity does in fact have an impact.

But lets just ignore the facts and continue to post our opinions. Ignorance is bliss after all, and we apparently have some posters that are in a constant state of ecstasy.
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1-9 in our last ten SEC games. At Tennessee, which has never been a program defined by the moral victory or the "good" loss, that is the primary fact of the situation we're in now.

I challenge you to find me a fanbase in this conference that would be all sunshine and rainbows with that record in the SEC.
 
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m1al said:
Dude, you didn't hurt my feelings.. As far as I know it wasn't even directed at me.. My point was, what's the point? We all do it but it's silly stuff like that that gets stuff started...

I know it's not your fault but all this negative ****ing bull**** is dragging this board down and unless you're a drama queen and like to argue all the damn time it's not fun anymore..

Yea, I know... wah wah wah....
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Ok, I'll just come on here and say this type of stuff everyday.

Man our D looked good today!!!
Forget wins and losses, i hope Dooley stays forever!!!
Oh well, at least those uniforms look awesome!!!!
Our program is really lookin good right now!!
This recruiting class is really shaping up nicely!!!

Lets keep it goin! Lying is fun!
 
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#257
#257
If this program is affected by a few a-holes on a message board, Facebook, and radio call in shows then this program is in a lot worse shape than I could ever imagine.
 
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#258
If people are going to go with this facade that the message boards have some kind of influence, it should be noted that it's more damaging to prop up a failure of a coach than to actually use this supposed power to fix the problem. Perhaps it works in your life to close your eyes and hope that problems magically get better if you just think positively, but that's never worked for me. Oddly, when I try to do something the same way in which I have already failed, it seems to happen again.
 
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PanicVol said:
Ok, I'll just come on here and say this type of stuff everyday.

Man our D looked good today!!!
Forget wins and losses, i hope Dooley stays forever!!!
Oh well, at least those uniforms look awesome!!!!
Our program is really lookin good right now!!
This recruiting class is really shaping up nicely!!!

Lets keep it goin! Lying is fun!
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Well, you do what you gotta do but you know damn good and well that's NOT what I meant...

Have a nice day and GO VOLS....
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Find me more than 10 recruits in the past 3 years who have openly admitted to making a decision, or basing their decision, on what is said on here.

Good luck. :good!:
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I don't need luck. The question is whether or not negativity affects recruits. The answer is yes. But since you don't like that answer now you want to make it about relativity. Feel free to apply statistics based on how many parents post on VolNation, with the understanding that at least one has clearly stated negativity hurts recruiting. Or, to use your logic... find me more than 5 (lets cut your number in half to make it easier) recruits in the past 3 years who have openly admitted that what's said about a program has zero effect. Good luck. :good!:

See what I did there?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Just remember, winning cures all. :hi:
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Eric, I wonder with some folks on here.. I'm glad I have a wife, kids and a grandson that I love dearly and other things in my life that helps me keep perspective on what's really important...
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
1-9 in our last ten SEC games. At Tennessee, which has never been a program defined by the moral victory or the "good" loss, that is the primary fact of the situation we're in now.

I challenge you to find me a fanbase in this conference that would be all sunshine and rainbows with that record in the SEC.
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Good post. No disagreement from me. Completely irrelevant to the topic at hand, however.
 
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m1al said:
Well, you do what you gotta do but you know damn good and well that's NOT what I meant...

Have a nice day and GO VOLS....
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Read your previous post. That is what you want: a world of make-believe.

It might just work at Disney, the White House or the ACC. It doesn't cut center in the SEC.
 
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m1al said:
Eric, I wonder with some folks on here.. I'm glad I have a wife, kids and a grandson that I love dearly and other things in my life that helps me keep perspective on what's really important...
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Wow man, its just a sports forum. Think its past your bed time.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
I don't need luck. The question is whether or not negativity affects recruits. The answer is yes. But since you don't like that answer now you want to make it about relativity. Feel free to apply statistics based on how many parents post on VolNation, with the understanding that at least one has clearly stated negativity hurts recruiting. Or, to use your logic... find me more than 5 (lets cut your number in half to make it easier) recruits in the past 3 years who have openly admitted that what's said about a program has zero effect. Good luck. :good!:

See what I did there?
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Sure, but I asked you to prove your point, and you came with a counter point that has basically the same answer as the example I asked you to prove, zero. The fans inside Neyland, tailgating outside the stadium, and the compliments from those that recognize them on their visits, have an infinitely more profound impact than anything anyone says on here.
 
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m1al said:
Eric, I wonder with some folks on here.. I'm glad I have a wife, kids and a grandson that I love dearly and other things in my life that helps me keep perspective on what's really important...
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I understand. I have a great life outside this place as well. :hi:
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Read your previous post. That is what you want: a world of make-believe.

It might just work at Disney, the White House or the ACC. It doesn't cut center in the SEC.
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Oh yea dude, you definately have me pegged.. Pardon me all to hell for actually thinking people on here are smart enough and mature enough to not act like morons..

It doesn't cut center in the SEC.
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:eek:lol: This is NOT the SEC, It's a message board there tough guy.. Thanks for helping to prove my point..
 
#269
#269
I thought our program isnt as " fragile" as everyone thought... Do you actually think the team gives any credence to a bunch of unathletic, unintelligent negavols who play World of Warcraft in their spare time? Heck NO! Our program will get to where it needs to be, regardless of their idiocy. VFL! Go Big Orange.
 
#270
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Good post. No disagreement from me. Completely irrelevant to the topic at hand, however.
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I don't see how it could be irrelevant. The argument recently has been on the impact of negative fans when it should be focused on the impact of negative results.

A poor record in this conference does considerable harm to Tennessee's ability to attract players compared to conference rivals.

We had negative fans on message boards throughout the 1990s. I didn't see it stop Fulmer from recruiting Top 5/Top 10 classes year in and year out. The record at Tennessee was strong and spoke for itself.

Now I'm being told negative fans are some grave danger to the well-being of Tennessee football. The continual run of losses are the danger to this program as it builds the perception that our level is with the bottom-tier of the conference instead of the upper level.
 
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PanicVol said:
Ok, I'll just come on here and say this type of stuff everyday.

Man our D looked good today!!!
Forget wins and losses, i hope Dooley stays forever!!!
Oh well, at least those uniforms look awesome!!!!
Our program is really lookin good right now!!
This recruiting class is really shaping up nicely!!!

Lets keep it goin! Lying is fun!
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:lolabove:
 
#272
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Sure, but I asked you to prove your point, and you came with a counter point that has basically the same answer as the example I asked you to prove, zero. The fans inside Neyland, tailgating outside the stadium, and the compliments from those that recognize them on their visits, have an infinitely more profound impact than anything anyone says on here.
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You're missing the point Eric. This was the question...

Do you all think bashing players, coaches etc. on message boards negatively effect recruiting, players and the program in anyway?
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The answer to the question is an absolute... yes or no. As I stated in my previous post, the answer is yes which you seem unwilling to accept... so now you are trying to make it relative (e.g. fans, compliments, etc. has more impact than negative posting on VolNation).

fwiw... whether you're willing to admit it or not... I proved my point in the previous post. Also fwiw, I agree with you that game day, fan excitement, etc. likely has a bigger impact on recruits than posts on VolNation. But unfortunately that wasn't the question.
 
#273
#273
PanicVol said:
Wow man, its just a sports forum. Think its past your bed time.
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After reading some of your posts that's rich.... :eek:lol:

Might want remember your own words from now on...

Think I'll get me a glass of milk and go to bed now...
 
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