Disturbing stat....and why we lose

#52
#52
Kentucky had opportunities and Blew it the same as we did last year. I cannot think of one postion group I would switch with UK, however, that does not guarantee us a victory. OP I see your point but win or loss has nothing to do with UK. Each FB game played is different.
 
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fade route said:
UF held Kentucky to 9 points on the road, and KY has 3 WRs with over 100 yds receiving.

UF is at home, and they are facing a Tennessee team with NO WRs with 100 yds receiving
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Fade, no one ever said that the Tennessee-Florida game comes down to how many receivers have 100-yard days.

The running game has proven the key metric over the years. And we have thunder & lightning.

I think we're gonna be okay.

Go Vols!
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Kentucky had opportunities and Blew it the same as we did last year. I cannot think of one postion group I would switch with UK, however, that does not guarantee us a victory. OP I see your point but win or loss has nothing to do with UK. Each FB game played is different.
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Very simple rule of thumb to observe. A close win or close loss....or a bad game does not mean the season is ruined, it doesn't even mean the next game is a win or loss.

Any given Saturday. Appy State/Michigan comes to mind.
 
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fade route said:
My whole point is that this is an easy game for the UF defense to scheme - load the box and make Dobbs beat you with his arm. I used the KY game to show UFs defense is very good and you can bet they watched the second half of the Oklahoma game. 17-10 UF
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Thier corners make this feasible for a time. Normally that would leave the edges available but Florida has good corners. But if they try to do that the whole game we have three rushes to wear them down and have have four short yardage receivers to dump it off to and it will wear them down through the course of a game. If all that isn't enough to defend throw dormady in and sling it after they wear.
 
#57
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Here are some stats that should have the Gators worried.

The Gators gave up 24 points and 3 passing TD's to an ECU team that got pummeled 45-21 by Navy and only scored 28 points against FCS foe Towson, and their defense is supposed to be their strength!

The Gators managed to score only 14 points on a Kentucky team that gave up 33 points to Louisiana Lafayette.

The Gators managed to score only 14 points on a Kentucky team that we put up half a hundred on last year with essentially the same offense (except we now have Kamara in place of Marlin Lane).

In any event I guess we'll know in about 27 hours. I for one can not wait for game time so that all the talking can be done and we can get down to football. I think our offense may surprise some folks on Saturday. Go Vols!
 
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fade route said:
UF held Kentucky to 9 points on the road, and KY has 3 WRs with over 100 yds receiving.

UF is at home, and they are facing a Tennessee team with NO WRs with 100 yds receiving
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Anyone can selectively pick & choose statistics to shape an argument however they see fit. Stats mean ish. CBJ has proven he is a superstar at EVERY aspect of being a HC except for the most important one: X's and O's. CBJ has not won any big games against any quality opponents. Period. He has, however, managed to piss away several games we should have won because of poor in game decisions.

I honestly believe all those years in the 90's we lost to UF, we had the better team. Our staff was outcoached. Sadly, that is still the case today. Until he proves me wrong, my stance will be he will continue to pile up losses in critical games because he and his staff will continue to be outcoached.

Prove me wrong Butch, please. I'm begging.
 
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It's a matter of our youth being ready. And they have had three games to get prepped. That is what will stop us. The inability to finish plays due to youth. I am choosing to believe.
 
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peppervol said:
Neither one of them are "idiots", my friend. This is an opinion board; everybody has one. We all share a common passion and that's that our beloved Vols are victorious. Just my opinion....
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Ok let me rephrase that. Both of their opinions make them look like idiots. Better?
 
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fade route said:
My whole point is that this is an easy game for the UF defense to scheme - load the box and make Dobbs beat you with his arm. I used the KY game to show UFs defense is very good and you can bet they watched the second half of the Oklahoma game. 17-10 UF
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That point you are making is likely the #1 thing UT is considering. We make the much needed adjustments because we have to expect that opponents are going to "load the box." Like many others rolling Dobb's out is a good option. It's hard on defensive linemen and easier on our OL. 24-10 UT
 
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Definitely this thread was started by a troll.
We run the ball down their throats. Dline pins their ears back since their running qb is out and be busy their pocket passer in the chin all day long.
It doesn't end well for Florida.
Shame on you for this thread
 
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fade route said:
UF held Kentucky to 9 points on the road, and KY has 3 WRs with over 100 yds receiving.

UF is at home, and they are facing a Tennessee team with NO WRs with 100 yds receiving
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Why would that mean UT loses?

UK has played a lighter schedule than UT so far... and UT isn't a pass first team like UK is.
 
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Kentucky also threw 3 interceptions and ran for just 81 yards as a team vs. FL who ran 237, passed for 295 and lost just one fumble. Kentucky should have been blown out yet they still almost won.
 
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fade route said:
UF held Kentucky to 9 points on the road, and KY has 3 WRs with over 100 yds receiving.

UF is at home, and they are facing a Tennessee team with NO WRs with 100 yds receiving
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We win because, it's...time...:peace2: :pepper:

GO VOLS!
 
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You should have asked the question....After 10 years why should it change?
I'm like many that will just wait until Sunday and either be thrilled or just business as usual depression.
 
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This is disturbing. Taken from RF..

Rick Neuheisel is as bewildered by our offense as anyone:

"Tennessee to me is a conundrum. You've got this dual-threat QB in Josh Dobbs who finished 4-1 last year... Had that epic comeback against SC... walloped Iowa in the bowl game and gave everyone these high expectations. So they start this season by beating Bowling Green who we now know is a great team. We watch them take a 17-0 lead vs Oklahoma. You were there for the game Chris. Was there anything more exciting and seen a crowd into more than anything like that? And yet after the first 2 plays of the 2nd half, Tennessee was held to 9 yds of offense for the rest of the half. When they needed to make a first down to help the defense they couldn't do it. By the end of the game the defense was spent. I don't see the marriage between offensive philosophy and the skill set of the QB. Josh Dobbs had 14 carries for 12 yds vs Oklahoma. I didn't see a lot in the way it generated yards... I didn't see them take advantage of Josh Dobbs' skill set. I think you're wasting your most valuable resource. Not one receiver for Tennessee right now has over 100 yds in receiving. That's ridiculous. Pig Howard, and I know he missed game 1, Marquez North, Von Pearson... And even the backs Kamara, and I know Hurds having a terrific year, but if all I have to do is stop Hurd then I'm going to live with Josh Dobbs in the pocket when I have Hargreaves in the secondary then I feel good about that. To me I think unless there's a complete transformation of offensive philosophy, and Josh Dobbs' legs don't figure into this game mightily, then I think Florida is going to take care of business.

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"Just like Colin Kapernick at Nevada. Just like RG3 at Baylor. When you get the QB into running formations and give the defense the knowledge that guy's a weapon then you have to add an extra defender to the box. Then what do you do to the coverage... You make it simple to understand. And you're throwing downfield can come to life... rather than having to finesse throws. I don't see the logic yet in how Tennessee is playing offense. When they had a chance to get their signature win vs Oklahoma, they blew it. They had it won. They took the foot off the gas pedal. It was embarrassing to watch."
 
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fade route said:
UF held Kentucky to 9 points on the road, and KY has 3 WRs with over 100 yds receiving.

UF is at home, and they are facing a Tennessee team with NO WRs with 100 yds receiving
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You can't win with scared money...:no: We got this...:pepper::pepper:

GO VOLS!
 
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Fade..... Stick to the politics forum bro. Political trolling is your specialty. Not football.
 
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Catbone said:
This is disturbing. Taken from RF..

Rick Neuheisel is as bewildered by our offense as anyone:

"Tennessee to me is a conundrum. You've got this dual-threat QB in Josh Dobbs who finished 4-1 last year... Had that epic comeback against SC... walloped Iowa in the bowl game and gave everyone these high expectations. So they start this season by beating Bowling Green who we now know is a great team. We watch them take a 17-0 lead vs Oklahoma. You were there for the game Chris. Was there anything more exciting and seen a crowd into more than anything like that? And yet after the first 2 plays of the 2nd half, Tennessee was held to 9 yds of offense for the rest of the half. When they needed to make a first down to help the defense they couldn't do it. By the end of the game the defense was spent. I don't see the marriage between offensive philosophy and the skill set of the QB. Josh Dobbs had 14 carries for 12 yds vs Oklahoma. I didn't see a lot in the way it generated yards... I didn't see them take advantage of Josh Dobbs' skill set. I think you're wasting your most valuable resource. Not one receiver for Tennessee right now has over 100 yds in receiving. That's ridiculous. Pig Howard, and I know he missed game 1, Marquez North, Von Pearson... And even the backs Kamara, and I know Hurds having a terrific year, but if all I have to do is stop Hurd then I'm going to live with Josh Dobbs in the pocket when I have Hargreaves in the secondary then I feel good about that. To me I think unless there's a complete transformation of offensive philosophy, and Josh Dobbs' legs don't figure into this game mightily, then I think Florida is going to take care of business.

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"Just like Colin Kapernick at Nevada. Just like RG3 at Baylor. When you get the QB into running formations and give the defense the knowledge that guy's a weapon then you have to add an extra defender to the box. Then what do you do to the coverage... You make it simple to understand. And you're throwing downfield can come to life... rather than having to finesse throws. I don't see the logic yet in how Tennessee is playing offense. When they had a chance to get their signature win vs Oklahoma, they blew it. They had it won. They took the foot off the gas pedal. It was embarrassing to watch."
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DeBord was a bad hire for this offense. He wants Dobbs to be a pocket passer, which he isn't. I think we have the same problem as last year. No trust in the back up QB so be overly cautious with the starting QB. Would love to see a pop pass line Ole Miss pulled last week. Shouldn't be hard to suck the defense in with a Dobbs run and sneak Kamara behind them
 
#75
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Catbone said:
This is disturbing. Taken from RF..

Rick Neuheisel is as bewildered by our offense as anyone:

"Tennessee to me is a conundrum. You've got this dual-threat QB in Josh Dobbs who finished 4-1 last year... Had that epic comeback against SC... walloped Iowa in the bowl game and gave everyone these high expectations. So they start this season by beating Bowling Green who we now know is a great team. We watch them take a 17-0 lead vs Oklahoma. You were there for the game Chris. Was there anything more exciting and seen a crowd into more than anything like that? And yet after the first 2 plays of the 2nd half, Tennessee was held to 9 yds of offense for the rest of the half. When they needed to make a first down to help the defense they couldn't do it. By the end of the game the defense was spent. I don't see the marriage between offensive philosophy and the skill set of the QB. Josh Dobbs had 14 carries for 12 yds vs Oklahoma. I didn't see a lot in the way it generated yards... I didn't see them take advantage of Josh Dobbs' skill set. I think you're wasting your most valuable resource. Not one receiver for Tennessee right now has over 100 yds in receiving. That's ridiculous. Pig Howard, and I know he missed game 1, Marquez North, Von Pearson... And even the backs Kamara, and I know Hurds having a terrific year, but if all I have to do is stop Hurd then I'm going to live with Josh Dobbs in the pocket when I have Hargreaves in the secondary then I feel good about that. To me I think unless there's a complete transformation of offensive philosophy, and Josh Dobbs' legs don't figure into this game mightily, then I think Florida is going to take care of business.

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"Just like Colin Kapernick at Nevada. Just like RG3 at Baylor. When you get the QB into running formations and give the defense the knowledge that guy's a weapon then you have to add an extra defender to the box. Then what do you do to the coverage... You make it simple to understand. And you're throwing downfield can come to life... rather than having to finesse throws. I don't see the logic yet in how Tennessee is playing offense. When they had a chance to get their signature win vs Oklahoma, they blew it. They had it won. They took the foot off the gas pedal. It was embarrassing to watch."
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Because we lost our upper class men and had to throw highschoolers on the field and had to play the safe game hoping not to give it away.... Dddduuuuuuhhhhhhh
 
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