Disparity between east and west

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Listening to WNNL (I know...) during lunch and they brought this up.

In my opinion it stems from the veil of competition. In recent times the east has had 1 maybe 2 good teams, good being relevant. While the easy has had 3-6 teams that can compete with each other.

Being in the East and beating up on the 5 easy teams and squeaking by the 1 good on looks great, even dropping 1 or both of your cross divisional games puts you at 11-1 or 10-2 and an SEC championship birth (likely a loss). In the scenario it looks like the team is good because you've played lesser opponents but lose to most (or all) of your true tests.

Now look at a west team. They go 50% winning 3 of their 6 divisional games plus their 2 cross divisional games puts them at 5 conference wins and likely 9-3 or worse. When a team dips to 7 or 8 wins consistently that coach gets put on the hot seat. So they consistently strive to get better.

The difference is the grind of the schedule forces the west to recognize coaching disparity and the east teams are happy at 10 wins (because technically that's great) and SEC championship chance.....Under this scenario you have a breeding ground for the coach Richts, guys that wI'll win all or most of what they're supposed to and none of the games they aren't favored in.
 
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The West is currently 7-0 against the East with an average MOV of 23.4 points. Looking ahead, at this point it's looking somewhat likely that the West will go 14-0. UK would need to beat MSU, or UF needs to get a win at Arkansas or at LSU. The East team won't win any of the remaining four.
 
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The East has South Carolina, Mizzou, Vandy, and Kentucky. No good player wants to go there. The East will always be far weaker.
 
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The Orange Pants said:
The East has South Carolina, Mizzou, Vandy, and Kentucky. No good player wants to go there. The East will always be far weaker.
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Kentucky has had a few decent teams, but its been awhile. If LSU was in the East, Les would still have a job he would be getting a raise, and they would be building his statue outside of Tiger Stadium. In the West, he's just a new member of the unemployment office.

The thing with the West is the physical nature of game after game. Nothing helps healing your wounds like playing Missouri, I'm not even sure I call that flag football.
 
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Not too many years ago the East was the beast...cyclical like everything else. The media blows everything out of proportion. Bama will one day pay for the last 10 years...I promise!
 
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bamawriter said:
The West is currently 7-0 against the East with an average MOV of 23.4 points. Looking ahead, at this point it's looking somewhat likely that the West will go 14-0. UK would need to beat MSU, or UF needs to get a win at Arkansas or at LSU. The East team won't win any of the remaining four.
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And then the east champ will beat the west champ in Atlanta.

That's the way things go when one side looks overwhelmingly more dominant than the other.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Kentucky has had a few decent teams, but its been awhile. If LSU was in the East, Les would still have a job he would be getting a raise, and they would be building his statue outside of Tiger Stadium. In the West, he's just a new member of the unemployment office.

The thing with the West is the physical nature of game after game. Nothing helps healing your wounds like playing Missouri, I'm not even sure I call that flag football.
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Saban, in the middle of the most prolific streak I can recall, is only good for 1 win per year better than Les. He is so disrespected.
 
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I laugh every time I read stuff like this. For literally the first 15 years of division play, the East was better than the West and Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss and Arkansas were going through coaches like most people eat popcorn. It's all cyclical.
 
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GAVol said:
I laugh every time I read stuff like this. For literally the first 15 years of division play, the East was better than the West and Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss and Arkansas were going through coaches like most people eat popcorn. It's all cyclical.
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While the East was up, it was never this lopsided.
 
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GAVol said:
I laugh every time I read stuff like this. For literally the first 15 years of division play, the East was better than the West and Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss and Arkansas were going through coaches like most people eat popcorn. It's all cyclical.
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Yes. Just remember that in 1998 we played Mississippi state in the SECCG and Bama went 4-7 that year.
 
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In the mid 1990-early 2000, the EAST was comparably dominated, with UT and UF leading the way. It is just a cycle

LSU had weak teams all through the 1990s, same with Alabama. The same cycles occurred with Nebraska, Miami, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Florida State, and Michigan. The closest to steady performance (pains me to say) has been Florida and Ohio State.
 
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GAVol said:
I laugh every time I read stuff like this. For literally the first 15 years of division play, the East was better than the West and Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss and Arkansas were going through coaches like most people eat popcorn. It's all cyclical.
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I remember that talk too. There were similar discussions then, how it wasn't fair to Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia to have to play such a hard schedule. Talk of needing to balance the divisions. The east fans ate it up while the west fans vented on call in shows.

What ended up happening is the east ran it's course with Spurrier leaving for the pros, Fulmer getting complacent, and Georgia doing what Georgia does. While the west kept trying to improve by closing recruiting gaps and hiring the best coaches they could find.
 
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bamawriter said:
Then how do you explain the last 7 years?
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Has the west ever gone 14-0 against the east before?

I'm just saying when crazy records like that are accomplished it just sets up for the upset.

See the 18-0 Patriots losing in the Superbowl or the 73-9 Warriors losing a 3-1 lead in the finals.

Weird stuff happens when records are made.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Has the west ever gone 14-0 against the east before?

I'm just saying when crazy records like that are accomplished it just sets up for the upset.

See the 18-0 Patriots losing in the Superbowl or the 73-9 Warriors losing a 3-1 lead in the finals.

Weird stuff happens when records are made.
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I was going to rebut this, but your predictions always carry such iron-clad logic and are inevitably accurate, so I guess I'd better not.
 
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bamawriter said:
I was going to rebut this, but your predictions always carry such iron-clad logic and are inevitably accurate, so I guess I'd better not.
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I'll just put it this way, if I'm a Bama fan I want someone on the east to beat someone in the west before the sec championship game.

Cause you know if the west goes 14-0 that'll be the talk and then just like the 73-9 Warriors or 18-0 Patriots, the overwhelming favorite will flop.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I'll just put it this way, if I'm a Bama fan I want someone on the east to beat someone in the west before the sec championship game.

Cause you know if the west goes 14-0 that'll be the talk and then just like the 73-9 Warriors or 18-0 Patriots, the overwhelming favorite will flop.
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Your two examples certainly prove the rule, and I will respectfully accept your argument and will neither look up, nor utilize my own memory, to present examples to the contrary.
 
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We've had so much talk of the gauntlet we had in the middle of our schedule. Just think of the west teams having to do it year after year. The only real weak one in the west this year is Miss State. Heck, even Vanderbilt is keeping their games close right now. We may still have some gauntlet left in our season. We need to heal up and make the stretch run. 10-2 would still be an improvement. Brick by brick eh?
 
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