Disney Finally Flipped! (Again)

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VAVol85 said:
Their identity as a producer of “good for the whole family” entertainment is cooked. They are into a lot of other things - general entertainment, sports, etc. - but the Walt Disney label which used to mean good for all ages and consistent with traditional values is long gone. In retrospect, they should perhaps have created a holding company with a different name to do a wide range of things and kept the Walt Disney label for a more narrow product segment.
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Disney not being fit for kids especially Christian families whose values are based on the Bible happened so long ago that my kids are 24 and 17 and have only ever seen the classic disney movies made from when I was a kid 40 years ago. Disney went woke WAY before a lot of other companies did, by a decade or more compared to some. Its absolute garbage to put that crap in kids shows and cartoons. ESPN also got very political and of course only Leftist as well...and destroyed their once high ratings. SportsCenter used to be "must watch" TV for most men. Now for many of us ESPN only gets turned on for football games and maybe College Gameday. Live sporting events only, no content created by them. Both companies ruined because they got political and woke when there was absolutely zero demand for them to do so...and no logical reason to incorporate that crap into kids entertainment OR sports in the first place.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Back when film farces were crude

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Nice. I had never seen that. I was born in 77 so was too young when it was new. We didnt get HBO until I was like 10yo though so I wouldnt have seen it anyway unless it was shown at school like many folks in the comments witnessed.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Nice. I had never seen that. I was born in 77 so was too young when it was new. We didnt get HBO until I was like 10yo though so I wouldnt have seen it anyway unless it was shown at school like many folks in the comments witnessed.
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We are the same age so I am guessing you got your fill of these in school.
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Willy P said:
I have not been on the "Disney is woke" bandwagon very much, but my daughter watched some of the Proud Family episodes last year and there were bits where they were doing spoken word and protests that would make a lot of people uncomfortable. I remember them repeating "slaves built this country" among a few other lines.
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That makes you uncomfortable? LOL

Unwanted immigrants built this country, too. Hide your kids from these truths!
 
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85SugarVol said:
Rogue One? No way, it’s awesome.

But I’d watch Revenge of the Sith over any of the new trilogy.
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I would too, I've watched that one a ton. But still not 100% sure if it's a meaningfully more well-made movie or if it just had a massive built-in storyline advantage with the Vader thing
 
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I recently watched episodes I and II with my boy, and OMG they are so bad. Disney didn't ruin Star Wars It peaked with Empire and went downhill. I can't speak to Sith, because I haven't seen it in a minute, but I don't remember liking it that much back in the day when I thought of myself as a big SW fan.

Andor and Rogue One are by far the best SW productions since episode V. Honestly, I'll take Andor over any of it.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Rogue One? No way, it’s awesome.

But I’d watch Revenge of the Sith over any of the new trilogy.
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I liked Rogue One as well. I also thought Solo was pretty good.

Revenge of the Sith wasn't bad, but just like with the other 2 prequels, too much focus was on CGI .... and the climactic battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan was a big disappointment.

"Don't try it. I have the high ground." - Obi-Wan Kenobi

Really? The most significant duel in the entire series was decided by who had the higher terrain. What a letdown.

"That high ground business is a crock of $hit and you know it, Obi!" - the upper half of Darth Maul
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I liked Rogue One as well. I also thought Solo was pretty good.

Revenge of the Sith wasn't bad, but just like with the other 2 prequels, too much focus was on CGI .... and the climactic battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan was a big disappointment.

"Don't try it. I have the high ground." - Obi-Wan Kenobi

Really? The most significant duel in the entire series was decided by who had the higher terrain. What a letdown.

"That high ground business is a crock of $hit and you know it, Obi!" - the upper half of Darth Maul
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Lol.
The idea of force ghost Darth maul mocking obi wan is great.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I would too, I've watched that one a ton. But still not 100% sure if it's a meaningfully more well-made movie or if it just had a massive built-in storyline advantage with the Vader thing
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I recently watched all 9 (and Rogue One) in order. The Prequel had a good over arching story line but poor individual scenes and dialogue. It was like it had execution issue.

I think the Sequel Trilogy (except the Last Jedi) had good individual scenes but a rough/incoherent over arching story. A big reason for the Sequel Trilogy's struggles was the Last Jedi which was just bad all around and was a horrible movie. It had cringing scenes, notably the opening scene with the Star Fighter mocking the commanders for that attack. That came off like a Looney Tune episode and not Star Wars.
 
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I think Snoop was recently getting roasted for some anti gay Disney feelings.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That makes you uncomfortable? LOL

Unwanted immigrants built this country, too. Hide your kids from these truths!
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I said it would make a lot of people uncomfortable.

Maybe it’s a lost art, looking at something and saying “I can see how this might make people feel this way”.
 
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NashVol11 said:
No, Episodes 4-6 came out in the '70s, Episodes 1-3 (prequels, origin of Darth Vader) in the early 2000s, Episodes 7-9 most recently
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Really liked the prequel where Anikan became Darth Vader... think it was Revenge of the Sith. Great cast with Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman and Samuel L Jackson. Didn’t know if I would like them, but they did a good job with them. The Last Jedi was pretty good too.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I would too, I've watched that one a ton. But still not 100% sure if it's a meaningfully more well-made movie or if it just had a massive built-in storyline advantage with the Vader thing
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As a standalone, it's probably one is the best in the SW franchise.

But when you binge Andor Season 1 and 2 then watch Rogue 1, it is the best story in the franchise IMO.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I would too, I've watched that one a ton. But still not 100% sure if it's a meaningfully more well-made movie or if it just had a massive built-in storyline advantage with the Vader thing
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Certainly a better story, which is why I’d rather watch it than the new trilogy. There’s no denying that the new trilogy is visually well done, but the storylines are lacking imo.

I like Empire the best, without question. Rogue One is probably second for me out of all the films.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I liked Rogue One as well. I also thought Solo was pretty good.

Revenge of the Sith wasn't bad, but just like with the other 2 prequels, too much focus was on CGI .... and the climactic battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan was a big disappointment.

"Don't try it. I have the high ground." - Obi-Wan Kenobi

Really? The most significant duel in the entire series was decided by who had the higher terrain. What a letdown.

"That high ground business is a crock of $hit and you know it, Obi!" - the upper half of Darth Maul
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Rogue One is great.

Well I mean they had dueled across multiple terrain for an extended period of time, essentially to a draw. It would only make sense imo that it would only end when one had a tactical advantage over the other - the high ground in that fight was the deciding variable.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I recently watched all 9 (and Rogue One) in order. The Prequel had a good over arching story line but poor individual scenes and dialogue. It was like it had execution issue.

I think the Sequel Trilogy (except the Last Jedi) had good individual scenes but a rough/incoherent over arching story. A big reason for the Sequel Trilogy's struggles was the Last Jedi which was just bad all around and was a horrible movie. It had cringing scenes, notably the opening scene with the Star Fighter mocking the commanders for that attack. That came off like a Looney Tune episode and not Star Wars.
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The lines from Anakin in Attack of the Clones were some of the worst ever put to paper.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That makes you uncomfortable? LOL

Unwanted immigrants built this country, too. Hide your kids from these truths!
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As a kid (80s and 90s) I wondered how the FCC and censorship got out of control, why there was so much they couldn’t say on TV or the radio even though I hear it in real life… but now I understand.
 
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