Difference between Felix vs Aidoo

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Sudden Impact said:
I am not sure Cade Phillips is not better than both of them.
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Cade is one of those guys you hope is on your team because he is such a pain to play against. He looks for contact and gives you that little extra shove. I saw Arkansas players get frustrated having to deal with him. He just has to be careful to not go too far.
 
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Delmar said:
Yep. Felix is offensively challenged but he makes up for it with hustle, defense and rebounding. And looking for the lobs. Much more aggressive than Aidoo. And Milicic is a step ahead of both of them. That dude never quits on a free ball.
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Milicic makes up for the offensive reduction.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
I am not sure Cade Phillips is not better than both of them.
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From what I've seen the last 5 games, Phillips is better than both of them. He's more mobile, more active defensively, better offensively (getting open for dunks, passing and setting screens) and a better rebounder.
 
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pimo1 said:
Igor was not an upgrade for anyone that left in portal. He replaced JJJ. Okpara replaced Aidoo (aidoo has played better/equal to okpara) Phillips/Estrella replaced Awaka. Estrellas injury has made that a slight L. Cade has played awesome. Estrella was playing well also. Aidoo and Awaka have both played extremely well in their new destinations (post Aidoo injuries). This game Aidoo put on a show. Be honest 2 steals 3 blocks and 2 fouls in a win.. AIdoo puts up those numbers in a W last year no matter his offensive output he's on a pedestal. Be consistent.
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IMO, Igor is an upgrade to JJJ. He seems to help the flow of the offense and is a stud rebounder and defender. While JJJ was a stud defender, I think the difference is Igor's length. Phillips, Okpara and Igor > JJJ, Awaka and Aidoo, by a meaningful margin.
 
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Lefteye said:
Other than a stray game where he knocks down a 15 footer or 2, can you expand on the “far more offensively skilled”.

Better way to ask the question is who would make the better pro right now? Keeping in mind Aidoos 15 ft jumper only showed up ever 5-7 games, same w the jump hook. His gait is nowhere near the player of Okpara in overall game. Imo
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Don't confuse skill with production. I think you're perhaps underselling Aidoo's offensive arsenal. The jump hook and mid-range jumper were both a little more prevalent in his Tennessee career than you're admitting as I remember it, but nevertheless, he has those weapons. Okpara doesn't. How many times have you even seen Okpara attempt a shot outside of 2 feet? Good for him that he knows his limitations, but they are just that...limitations. Aidoo is also a very good passing big man, fwiw.
 
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Lukusw said:
I think it's a bit of an apple to orange comparison. Aidoo loves playing 10-15 ft from basketball (or farther). We don't need that on this team. Okpara rolls and finishes harder than Aidoo-- that's a better fit on the current team. Both are good help defenders. Okpara is a stronger on ball defender. Looking at each player on their own, Aidoo is better. But concerning the fit and how it works in our current team, I think Okpara is better for us.
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I don’t think so. If I was he coach and had a choice for my team, I would take Okpara and not look back. He is more aggressive on the boards, defensively, and going to the rim on offense. He takes up more space and is much stronger. He even hit foul shots today. Aidoo seems to disappear for periods of the game.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Don't confuse skill with production. I think you're perhaps underselling Aidoo's offensive arsenal. The jump hook and mid-range jumper were both a little more prevalent in his Tennessee career than you're admitting as I remember it, but nevertheless, he has those weapons. Okpara doesn't. How many times have you even seen Okpara attempt a shot outside of 2 feet? Good for him that he knows his limitations, but they are just that...limitations. Aidoo is also a very good passing big man, fwiw.
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Fair point on perhaps underselling JA, but the big games are all that stick with me. To answer your question, none. However he is just a junior and his free throw attempts show the ability to improve his shot. We’re obviously not going to agree on this one. I’ll just say I’m ecstatic to have Felix limitations on this UT team. And add glad Aidoos don’t factor in it.
 
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Lefteye said:
Fair point on perhaps underselling JA, but the big games are all that stick with me. To answer your question, none. However, he is just a junior, and his free throw attempts show the ability to improve his shot. We’re obviously not going to agree on this one. I’ll just say I’m ecstatic to have Felix limitations on this UT team. And add glad Aidoos don’t factor in it.
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Maybe you misunderstood the intent of my original comment. I never said I preferred Aidoo. The discussion was the difference between the two. I never staked a claim to one over the other.

Fact is, though, I prefer Okpara. He is a power player with high-level athleticism and a "mean" disposition on the floor. Aidoo is a finesse offensive player for the most part. I can remember multiple time being upset with him lazily laying up balls when he could have dunked it and left no doubt. FO leaves no doubt...he dunks everything he possibly can. I doubt he ever becomes a mid-range threat, but that's fine. Just keep doing what he's doing and be efficient. That is the one complaint I might have, is that he misses a lot of those shots he doesn't dunk. Can have a lot of 1-5, 1-6 type games. He has to be a finisher.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Maybe you misunderstood the intent of my original comment. I never said I preferred Aidoo. The discussion was the difference between the two. I never staked a claim to one over the other.

Fact is, though, I prefer Okpara. He is a power player with high-level athleticism and a "mean" disposition on the floor. Aidoo is a finesse offensive player for the most part. I can remember multiple time being upset with him lazily laying up balls when he could have dunked it and left no doubt. FO leaves no doubt...he dunks everything he possibly can. I doubt he ever becomes a mid-range threat, but that's fine. Just keep doing what he's doing and be efficient. That is the one complaint I might have, is that he misses a lot of those shots he doesn't dunk. Can have a lot of 1-5, 1-6 type games. He has to be a finisher.
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I didn’t say you did prefer him I don’t think.
 
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Lefteye said:
I didn’t say you did prefer him I don’t think.
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Well, definitively claiming we were not going to agree on this, and then following it up by saying you're thrilled to have Okpara and his limitations on our team seemed to imply that you felt I either wasn't thrilled with him, or that I somehow preferred Aidoo. In that context, I thought perhaps you misunderstood my original post to be an attempt to make a case for my preference for Aidoo over Okpara.
 
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25 ZZ = 24 ZZ
Lanier= DK
25 Mashak=SV
Igor > JJJ
Okpara= Aidoo
25 Gainey>24 Gainey
Dubar<24 Mashak
Phillips>Tobe
 
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cncchris33 said:
Well, definitively claiming we were not going to agree on this, and then following it up by saying you're thrilled to have Okpara and his limitations on our team seemed to imply that you felt I either wasn't thrilled with him, or that I somehow preferred Aidoo. In that context, I thought perhaps you misunderstood my original post to be an attempt to make a case for my preference for Aidoo over Okpara.
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My original post said I thought Felix is more athletic and active. Didn’t say anything negative about JA other than playing by misspelling his name. Your original quote did read to me that you had stronger feelings for JA. I didn’t mean to imply you preferred him over Felix. My fault

We good, man?
 
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Lefteye said:
My original post said I thought Felix is more athletic and active. Didn’t say anything negative about JA other than playing by misspelling his name. Your original quote did read to me that you had stronger feelings for JA. I didn’t mean to imply you preferred him over Felix. My fault

We good, man?
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No worries. I was just giving my opinion on the differences in the two. My preference is for Okpara for reasons already mentioned, but also, and perhaps most importantly, because he wants to be here.
 
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JacketVol said:
Oak has got to NOT commit dumb fouls like he did today. 94 feet away from the basket and the small bump. We need him. He’s a good 5!force. Like the way he plays
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Yeah...with the limited number of scholarship players I find myself cringing every time a foul is called, or a player hits the deck really hard.
 
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pimo1 said:
In this matchup AIdoo won.. by a lot.

Okpura contributed 10 and 4 on 50% shooting.thats actually close to normal except for the low fg% (he's averaging 7 and 6 on 62%). Aidoo went 4 points 5 boards and shot 66% bombed on the freethrow line. Sounds like I'm losing this argument huh? But, he had 2 steals and 3 blocks with 2 fouls.. those are crazy nice numbers for his role. Flip them on rosters and this game is more like 90-40 instead of 76-52.

Losing Awaka and Aidoo sucks badly. That being said I think we won overall in the exchange because the guys we brought in fit well and I think Dubar gets better as the season goes on. We traded AIdoo and Awaka for Okpara that's a push because between what Okpara brings and how Philips has stepped up we are actually in a slightly better situation when you factor in Milicic who replaced JJJ. Lanier for DK so far is a wash also if you factor in Gaineys improvement. Dubar,if he can step up, is what makes the difference here. I think he can and will. Phillips is my low key MVP this season as far as my expectations and his delivery.
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Aidoo had as many rebounds as 5'9" Zeigler had today.
 
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Let's just keep in mind when we discuss both, that they seem to be good character guys. You always want good guys to do well.....just not against us.

With that said, Okpara seems more steady off his feet to collect a lob with authority. Aidoo has a more versatile game but it disappears too often.
 
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