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This is for the guys who really understand defensive schemes. Knowing that Pavia is a dual threat QB, I kept seeing this huge gap between the corners/safeties and the line that he was constantly able to exploit for big yards. Why didn't Tenn. pull the linebackers into that space to bottle up the run game? Better five yards than fifteen.
 
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They actually did it on the drive of Pavia’s second INT. They pretty much settled with keeping Pavia in front of them, and allowing him 3-4 yards per carry. He eventually got frustrated and tried to force a pass downfield into double coverage which was picked.

We then refused to use this same gameplan the remainder of the night. It made absolutely no sense.
 
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rocketskates said:
They actually did it on the drive of Pavia’s second INT. They pretty much settled with keeping Pavia in front of them, and allowing him 3-4 yards per carry. He eventually got frustrated and tried to force a pass downfield into double coverage which was picked.

We then refused to use this same gameplan the remainder of the night. It made absolutely no sense.
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Whether we refused to use the same plan or the players didn't execute it we don't know.

Either way it's Banks responsibility. Has he mentioned at all this year the performance on the field is unacceptable or has he basically hidden out? I haven't wasted my time watching all the interviews.
 
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mudhen said:
This is for the guys who really understand defensive schemes. Knowing that Pavia is a dual threat QB, I kept seeing this huge gap between the corners/safeties and the line that he was constantly able to exploit for big yards. Why didn't Tenn. pull the linebackers into that space to bottle up the run game? Better five yards than fifteen.
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There's the million questions. Why?

Everyone knew it was coming. Yet, we rolled out the red carpet for him to run
 
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mudhen said:
This is for the guys who really understand defensive schemes. Knowing that Pavia is a dual threat QB, I kept seeing this huge gap between the corners/safeties and the line that he was constantly able to exploit for big yards. Why didn't Tenn. pull the linebackers into that space to bottle up the run game? Better five yards than fifteen.
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Buddy, my six year old could’ve told you Pavia was gonna run the ball. Truly understanding defensive schemes is not needed. He’s done it all year. We chose you ignore it.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Whether we refused to use the same plan or the players didn't execute it we don't know.

Either way it's Banks responsibility. Has he mentioned at all this year the performance on the field is unacceptable or has he basically hidden out? I haven't wasted my time watching all the interviews.
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You got that right. Watching the interviews is truly a waste of time.
 
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mudhen said:
This is for the guys who really understand defensive schemes. Knowing that Pavia is a dual threat QB, I kept seeing this huge gap between the corners/safeties and the line that he was constantly able to exploit for big yards. Why didn't Tenn. pull the linebackers into that space to bottle up the run game? Better five yards than fifteen.
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This was one of the things Kevin Simon was so upset about after the game. That, and the lack of any alphas in the middle of the field, noting that no one seemed to have any pride back there, and they were afraid to be physical.
 
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The_topis_Rocky89 said:
My dad was like why didn’t we spy Pavia and it wasn’t until he said that I was like dang he’s right.
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Spying on him and doing anything about are two different things. I the way I see it, we didn't have anyone who could do anything about it. Mainly because our guys who could spy were/are too slow.
 
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mudhen said:
This is for the guys who really understand defensive schemes. Knowing that Pavia is a dual threat QB, I kept seeing this huge gap between the corners/safeties and the line that he was constantly able to exploit for big yards. Why didn't Tenn. pull the linebackers into that space to bottle up the run game? Better five yards than fifteen.
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we were missing our top D lineman. We lost two more during the game. I believe what you are describing was the game plan, but the DL we had in the game were taking bad angles which made it harder for the LB to fill a gap. that along with Pavio being very good at running and he simply hit the gap that didn't get filled . It pains to say, but he is a very good quarterback and plays like a dog.
 
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mudhen said:
This is for the guys who really understand defensive schemes. Knowing that Pavia is a dual threat QB, I kept seeing this huge gap between the corners/safeties and the line that he was constantly able to exploit for big yards. Why didn't Tenn. pull the linebackers into that space to bottle up the run game? Better five yards than fifteen.
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Not much of an expert, but football is a numbers game. If you add a spy, you lose a player in pass coverage. A spy can’t rush the QB from the snap or drop back in coverage.

In simplest terms—assume you rush 4 DL and have a defender for each of 5 eligible receivers. That leaves you with two extra players to be safeties in coverage or extra rushers in a blitz. If you take one of those extra players as a spy, your ability to play sound coverage is limited—and that matters a lot against Vandy, which wants to attack the seams with the TEs and runs a lot of RPOs. A spy can turn into a mere spectator who has no time to rush and is no help in coverage.

If you sub off a DL to play spy, you lose even more from the rush and may have open gaps against RB runs. If you try to spy with a DL, the QB might be faster and the spy gets beat.

Some teams respond with a “mush rush,” where the DL refuses to rush upfield, stay in their lanes, and get no further than level with the QB. That approach should deny the big runs up the middle and forces the QB to retreat and run wide against LBs and secondary players who are supposed to be faster than the QB. You don’t get many sacks or pressures that way, but you can play base defense and limit QB runs without a spy. It’s not Tennessee’s philosophy, though, and it usually required playing zone behind.
 
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I was unfortunately there. I watched a team that straight gave up. Kind of similar all year long though honestly. You had teams that talked trash and then smacked you in the mouth. I can't say that I have ever seen a team with the lack of preparation that we saw this season as a whole. CJH gonna have to do some soul searching over the next few weeks. Maybe he will decide to pull his nuts out and fire the OC and DC and hire some dudes that are championship caliber.

I guess we should have seen this coming when he didn't try to put 100 on UF.
 
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mudhen said:
This is for the guys who really understand defensive schemes. Knowing that Pavia is a dual threat QB, I kept seeing this huge gap between the corners/safeties and the line that he was constantly able to exploit for big yards. Why didn't Tenn. pull the linebackers into that space to bottle up the run game? Better five yards than fifteen.
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Why didn't they spy him with the MLB?
 
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vols 30 said:
There's the million questions. Why?

Everyone knew it was coming. Yet, we rolled out the red carpet for him to run
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There was one drive in the second half, one that Vandy got a FG out of it, but Pavia took off for big gains right up the middle on at least successive plays before our defense wised up. But it was there for him the whole game. He was taunting our defense to stop him and they couldn't figure how.
 
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The_topis_Rocky89 said:
My dad was like why didn’t we spy Pavia and it wasn’t until he said that I was like dang he’s right.
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I couldn't believe we didn't put a spy on him. If I were Banks, I would have told Arian Carter to stay with him the entire game. Even follow him to the bathroom if he heads that way. J/K about that part.
 
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savannahfan said:
Spying on him and doing anything about are two different things. I the way I see it, we didn't have anyone who could do anything about it. Mainly because our guys who could spy were/are too slow.
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We did do something about it. We were shutting him down early on and went away from it in the second half.
 
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