Did he touch home plate really?

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GUNTERSVOL

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I had to stream to get the game and could not record it. I watched every replay with them and understand it was close. I heard some defend the call that he touched the black. Bottom line from everyone's view, did he touch the white part of the plate? That becomes critical according to a google search I got, not an NCAA document, BUT....

✓ No, the "black" is NOT part of home plate. Home plate is 17 inches wide. Some home-plate models have a black edge that extends beyond that 17 inches
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
I had to stream to get the game and could not record it. I watched every replay with them and understand it was close. I heard some defend the call that he touched the black. Bottom line from everyone's view, did he touch the white part of the plate? That becomes critical according to a google search I got, not an NCAA document, BUT....

✓ No, the "black" is NOT part of home plate. Home plate is 17 inches wide. Some home-plate models have a black edge that extends beyond that 17 inches
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It was impossible to tell by that replay. He could have missed it, he could have scraped it with his cleats, or he could have caught the edge.
 
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GoBigOrange_2309 said:
Close as hell. Should have been called out for carelessness alone. I’ve never understood how somebody could miss home on a home run. Same thing as somebody dropping the ball before they cross the goal line
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Replay is now available on WatchESPN. Still tough to see even slowed down. The only thing for sure is the Ump was in the worst possible position to make the call towards the first base circle with a great view of his toe and no view of the back of his foot which was key for this play. Such is life.
 
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he was called safe in real time. The call sucks but not enough on the tape to overturn it.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
I had to stream to get the game and could not record it. I watched every replay with them and understand it was close. I heard some defend the call that he touched the black. Bottom line from everyone's view, did he touch the white part of the plate? That becomes critical according to a google search I got, not an NCAA document, BUT....

✓ No, the "black" is NOT part of home plate. Home plate is 17 inches wide. Some home-plate models have a black edge that extends beyond that 17 inches
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Moot point is moot. Time to move along.
 
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Are you sure that's not only for the strikezone? You'd have a heck of a hard time convincing me there's a part of a base (plate) that you can physically touch that doesn't count as far as the game is concerned...I'd be even more surprised if anyone tried to enforce that rule.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
Are you sure that's not only for the strikezone? You'd have a heck of a hard time convincing me there's a part of a base (plate) that you can physically touch that doesn't count as far as the game is concerned...I'd be even more surprised if anyone tried to enforce that rule.
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Some of my kids are starting to play ball this year, I’ve been telling them the black is part of the plate. We were using pine cones as bases and home, so I told them to imagine. 2 of the 3 ran the bases after the sweep. Maybe they have a better understanding of how it all works. The girl twin asked on the way home who won. Classic considering I went with a Mississippi fan. For the record, they dislike being called Mississippi.
 
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I've never heard of anyone being called out because they only touched the black part of the plate. And any runner in that situation is getting the benefit of the doubt. After all, he hit the ball over the fence, so he earned it.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Some of my kids are starting to play ball this year, I’ve been telling them the black is part of the plate. We were using pine cones as bases and home, so I told them to imagine. 2 of the 3 ran the bases after the sweep. Maybe they have a better understanding of how it all works. The girl twin asked on the way home who won. Classic considering I went with a Mississippi fan. For the record, they dislike being called Mississippi.
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They dislike being called their name. OK.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
I had to stream to get the game and could not record it. I watched every replay with them and understand it was close. I heard some defend the call that he touched the black. Bottom line from everyone's view, did he touch the white part of the plate? That becomes critical according to a google search I got, not an NCAA document, BUT....

✓ No, the "black" is NOT part of home plate. Home plate is 17 inches wide. Some home-plate models have a black edge that extends beyond that 17 inches
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I was sitting right above our dougout down the third baseline and he did not step on the white part of the plate. I was watching close to make sure he did.
 
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VOLtaism said:
Those umpires were not going to take a run off the board in front of that run starved home crowd. They would have been chased down and hung.
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You are exactly right because he did not touch it. I’m not just being a homer I was right there with a perfect view and he stepped over it. I’d put my hand on the Bible and say the same thing.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Some of my kids are starting to play ball this year, I’ve been telling them the black is part of the plate. We were using pine cones as bases and home, so I told them to imagine. 2 of the 3 ran the bases after the sweep. Maybe they have a better understanding of how it all works. The girl twin asked on the way home who won. Classic considering I went with a Mississippi fan. For the record, they dislike being called Mississippi.
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Ive been bothering my rebel friends by calling it “Old Miss”
its a subtle wrong
 
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If the guy hits it out of the park, its a homerun, whether he touches the plate or not.

Too many nits here.
 
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landrus13 said:
Yep. Hard to miss that big, white dish there on the ground. I don't think he stepped on the plate anyway. Pretty sure he stepped right over it but no way were they gonna overturn that at their home park.
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I’m humble, but being nonchalant when you wear the target is probably not gonna work on a message board. 23-1
 
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landrus13 said:
Nah, gotta touch the plate regardless. Just like he has to touch every base as he takes his trot. If not, he can be called out and the run taken off the board.
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Nope, ask Kennesaw State from last weeks game against Ga Tech. Dude hits a HR, touches all but home, 10 minute delay, umps call him safe and the HR stands. Never got a great explanation off the streaming broadcast, evidently if you miss 1st, 2nd, or 3rd you can be called out but home, evidently it doesn’t matter
 
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Easiest way to stop the non touch at home fiasco is to institute a new rule that teammates can't come to home plate but have to remain at the on deck circle. That way, Home Plate is in clear view and the runner doesn't get distracted by trying to dance into his teammates waiting on him at the plate and the Umpire has a clear view on whether he/she touches the plate.
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
Easiest way to stop the non touch at home fiasco is to institute a new rule that teammates can't come to home plate but have to remain at the on deck circle. That way, Home Plate is in clear view and the runner doesn't get distracted by trying to dance into his teammates waiting on him at the plate and the Umpire has a clear view on whether he/she touches the plate.
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I’ve only seen one replay and it looked like the ump cleaned the plate with his foot from where the player got it with his heel.
 
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