Did Fulmer overvalue himself?

[roadvol]

A drunk rhesus monkey could have won a natty with that talent. That’s what my post earlier was about. He was a great recruiter, but just a good coach, that will get you a championship but it won’t put you in the all time greats category

Sure they could .... why not count all the titles UT has won since Fulmer left....there's a reason that Fulmer won more games in UT history except Gen Neyland.
( btw.. if you are correct ,why doesn't UT just hire a rhesus monkey?)

 

[roadvol]

Sure they could .... why not count all the titles UT has won since Fulmer left....there's a reason that Fulmer won more games in UT history except Gen Neyland.
( btw.. if you are correct ,why doesn't UT just hire a rhesus monkey?)

I recall the experts and "wannebe coaches"demanding Fulmer be fired back then .They were declaring any mediocre coach could win at UT with our history and facilities. That with any average coach we should win a SEC title at least every 3-4 years and a NC at least 1-2 times every 8-10 years.
How has that worked out?

 

[strkr]

I recall the experts and "wannebe coaches"demanding Fulmer be fired back then .They were declaring any mediocre coach could win at UT with our history and facilities. That with any average coach we should win a SEC title at least every 3-4 years and a NC at least 1-2 times every 8-10 years.
How has that worked out?

I would use the word entitled instead of over valued. Once he won natty in 1998 I feel program started trending down after 2005 with Vandy loss and as was stated Meyer and Saban came into the league and things changed. I feel he felt he should be allowed to coach until he made the decision to step down. An ugly exit for sure in 2008.

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

I would use the word entitled instead of over valued. Once he won natty in 1998 I feel program started trending down after 2005 with Vandy loss and as was stated Meyer and Saban came into the league and things changed. I feel he felt he should be allowed to coach until he made the decision to step down. An ugly exit for sure in 2008.

Agree, it was time for him to step down for the reasons you state. Seemed he thought once he had reached the top of the mountain could cruise from then on. But he deserved a better outcome. AD should have just privately told him to resign for whatever reason he wanted and let him save face. And if he was too stubborn to do that then firing was his only other option.

 

[Remy]

It’s amazing to me how many people can crawl into Fulmer’s skin and tell you his innermost thoughts and biases. A whole lot of conclusions are being drawn about the guy without first hand evidence. That s says more about the folks making these sort of claims for good or bad than it does about Fulmer imo.

 

[Iravolfan]

In 2008 Tennessee made the worst decision they have ever made!! 152-52 ! What is our record since ?? I’ll HANG UP AND LISTEN! Atlanta lately ? NO! 2007 was the last trip ! FULMER is 2nd in winning % , behind only the Great Robert Neyland

 

[#1fulmerite]

I recall the experts and "wannebe coaches"demanding Fulmer be fired back then .They were declaring any mediocre coach could win at UT with our history and facilities. That with any average coach we should win a SEC title at least every 3-4 years and a NC at least 1-2 times every 8-10 years.
How has that worked out?

To be fair, Kiffen had a winning record with less talent and even lost a bowl game. That one and done and the timing of him leaving is what did the program in.

 

[GBO2011]

Here is my conclusion. Philip Fulmer is the Aaron Rodgers of CFB coaches. He won a championship, is widely respected around the college football landscape, but, there is much more he could have accomplished, and there was that one team he just couldn’t beat.

 

[roadvol]

To be fair, Kiffen had a winning record with less talent and even lost a bowl game. That one and done and the timing of him leaving is what did the program in.

The onr year thst Kiffin was coach, he was favored in 8 games ( with talent inherited from Fulmer that he didnt run off) and and had a record of 7-6. So he under performed