Did Chaney and Pittman have interest in Tennessee?

[Jack Burton]

Pruitt needs an OC he can hand the reigns to and let him run. If he has to micromanage his OC then this isn’t going to work out for anybody. I hope Helton is the guy but would rather have a more sure thing like Chaney especially if he brought Pittman.

Word is Chaney fell in love with Knoxville years ago. Not the fan fiction “he ain’t never gonna leave” stuff fans make up when they’re at a school but genuinely loved it here.

 

[BloomuVol]

I'm not sure Helton wants to stay here, and I'm not sure Pruitt wants him to stay. I certainly wouldn't fire him unless you got someone waiting in the wings who can do the job. Lesson's learned I guess.

My guess would be that that's why Joel Osovet is on staff.

 

[onevol74]

I have faith in Helton. Im just gonna make a bold statement and predict he will be a successful HC one day. He is dealing with a roster that cant run the complete offense package he runs. Last season he was scheming up for Sam Darnold and did a great job even if he didnt call majority of plays. Helton is pass heavy, fast burner receiver going for deep ball. unfortunately, he has to scheme based on how bad the offensive line is. Im not saying he's been perfect and hasnt made any mistakes but I was really pleased with the growth I saw in him during the SC game. Plus, his family brings a lot of football knowledge and experience as im sure his dad gives a pointer or two. If he could make the country singer Sam Hunt a decent qb he has a good idea of what hes doing. Just my opinion and rant.

A good coordinator works with what he has to be productive. If he could have worked to create a few more first downs instead of throwing the low percentage passes we would have more wins. He also needs to work with a QB that can read and work the field. Not a QB who you have to tell where to put the ball every play.

 

[RollerVol]

just a couple coaches who couldn't get out of here fast enough...don't blame them either...how many had success after they left here...about everybody, including players...

PS. doubt they would've come back though...

GO VOLS...BEAT CATS!

 

[TheAnti-Dog]

UGA fans are still not sold on Chaney. They love Pittman, though. Rumor has it, Pittman was the one Smart really wanted on staff, but he wouldn't leave Arkansas without Chaney.....So it became kind of a 'package deal' hire just to get Pittman on board. They would pay whatever Pittman wanted to get him to stay. Chaney? Not so much.

 

[Titan&Volfan4life]

Osovet, Friend and Helton all have incredible knowledge and experience on the O side of the ball and we're very lucky to have all 3 of them at Tennessee.

Pruitt must have used some kind of magic to get all 3 of those guys to come work for him at a 4-8 losing team like we had last season and knowing we're a total and complete rebuild playing Bama every year and in the SEC.

The O brainpower s here as far as coaches are concerned and after we get the right player roster we're going to be very happy when our scoreboard lights up like a Christmas tree because we're going to become VERY hard to stop.

It's just going to take several years of great recruiting to get to that point unfortunately.

My main worry is if we're going to be able to pay all of them enough $$$ to keep all of them on the hill.

I hope Fulmer can help keep them all.

VFL...GBO!!!

 

[MikeVol44]

I heard the same Freak. And I know Tim is a VFL but I disagree more with him than I agree. He's a Chicken Little and the sky is falling mentality. While I hold his opinion in high regard being a VFL and former NFL player I don't agree with his thoughts on Drew Richmond. We see his misses and talk about those but we don't see the other plays he makes that are hits. The kid is playing to the best of his ability and my opinion differs than Tim's on this. Just my two cents worth.

Irwin's not making statements because of the state of the program....but he actually KNOWS how to evaluate performance by watching the film and knowing Drew's assignments.... that comes from being all SEC OL and keeping a job in the NFL for 10+ years....

I'll take Irwin's opinion about OL performance any and every day of the week over anyone else's.....

 

[CA_Vol]

This comment by Tim Irwin yesterday caught my ear on the radio.

"I was very much in favor of doing whatever took to hire a great defensive head coach -- and I think Pruitt could be that guy -- and coupling him, and spending some money, to get an offensive coordinator like Chaney and a line coach like Pittman back in there. And I believe, and I have reasons for believing this, that they would have come."

He doubled down later in the show

"It's over now, but I wish he would have gotten Chaney and Pittman in here with him to help him run the offense."

I don’t think Chaney or Pittman were leaving UGA with a NCCG, a #1 recruiting class, and a stable of 4 & 5 star offensive lineman coming in. Talking heads talk.

 

[Atlanta917]

NC State had a decent QB and some good DL....but they ended up 7-6 after losing by 14 to Vandy in the Bowl game....another unranked team....
And you're reaching about Troy....they were terrible that year....went 5-7 and lost to MTSU....we put up 718 yards against them in that game...and had to score 55 to win....
Same for Mizzou game that year....took 4 OTs and 585 yards to beat them...... that's over 1300 yards in 2 games....that'll definitely help your offensive averages......

It's no secret that the 2012 team had great talent at WR and some decent RBs....and had a decent OL with I think some players still in the NFL....

But just look at the numbers and they don't lie.....those stellar Offensive #s you quoted were PADDED by leaving starters in against those lower ranked teams....and Shoop's Vandy D that year just blew us up....

I admit it---Cheney has NEVER impressed me....and we are seeing some of his mediocrity exposed on a UGA team that lost 2 of the best RBs in the SEC....and Fromme's performance has not been stellar this year, either.

It's gonna be interesting to see how the pups do against Auburn.....

And BAMA gonna hammer 'em into oblivion worse than LSU....

I think Helton has the offensive chops to make it happen....

Our offense didn't lose the USCe game this year....great game plan for the Chump's D....

Why will auburn vs UGA be interesting? Auburn isn’t very good. UGA is strong against the pass and weak against the run and auburn can’t run the ball. The GT game has the potential to be interesting.

 

[MikeVol44]

Why will auburn vs UGA be interesting? Auburn isn’t very good. UGA is strong against the pass and weak against the run and auburn can’t run the ball. The GT game has the potential to be interesting.

The CONTEXT of the conversation concerned Cheney as an OC.....

Auburn's defense is still pretty good..... UGA will be tested....road team has won that match-up more times than not.

IF Stidham doesn't turn the ball over....it will be a close game.

 

[Atlanta917]

The CONTEXT of the conversation concerned Cheney as an OC.....

Auburn's defense is still pretty good..... UGA will be tested....road team has won that match-up more times than not.

IF Stidham doesn't turn the ball over....it will be a close game.

Auburn hasn't won in Athens since 2005... Auburn does have the talent to make it a close, but they'll have to do some things they haven't done well all season. They'll have to be able to run the ball and pass protect, which they've struggled with all season. So its possible for Auburn to make it a close game, but I don't think its likely.

 

[TheAnti-Dog]

Why will auburn vs UGA be interesting? Auburn isn’t very good. UGA is strong against the pass and weak against the run and auburn can’t run the ball. The GT game has the potential to be interesting.

UGA's run defense has come on pretty good the last couple of games. They held KY to only 79 yards on the ground, with Snell getting 73 of those. UF's leading rusher got 62, their next best was 56.

Auburn got a whopping 19 yards rushing vs. A&M, but won, anyway due to a complete collapse of the A&M defense the last 7 minutes. Their run game hasn't been there all year...or, certainly not like last year.

 

[05_never_again]

I wasn't really impressed with chaneys offense while he was here. We had some talented lineman during that timeframe but our run game was still stagnent. I remember countless threads debating the blocking scheme and why we couldnt ever run downhill with that offensive line.

Yep. They were great pass blockers but bad run blockers. And Bray and the passing game never did anything notable in a big game against a good defense.

I've always thought Chaney was overrated, personally. Georgia had a great offense last year on the backs of 2 future NFL RBs and a great offensive line. Chaney deserves credit for not screwing it up I suppose, because he tends to get pass happy in certain situations, but he did not do that last year.

 

[BIG BOI 23]

After the LSU game GA fans were wanting a change on offense. I bet Chaney is gone next year.

What lol the man has helped land

Eason
Fromm
Fields

Also you fire him you might lose his buddy Pittman and OL coach is a tough hire to make very few out there like Pittman who do well everywhere they go

They had a bad game last year against Auburn then turned around and beat their ass for the title

Dropping a game a year or even 2 is no big deal

 

[vol-un-tear]

What lol the man has helped land

Eason
Fromm
Fields

Also you fire him you might lose his buddy Pittman and OL coach is a tough hire to make very few out there like Pittman who do well everywhere they go

They had a bad game last year against Auburn then turned around and beat their ass for the title

Dropping a game a year or even 2 is no big deal

From Georgia fans after they lost. Not me. They want to see the young 5* play.

 

[BIG BOI 23]

From Georgia fans after they lost. Not me. They want to see the young 5* play.

Yep and Fromm responded like a real one supposed to just like he did in Atlanta and against OU

Dawgs are dumb af they automatically assume they have Watson or Tebow sitting on the bench

And guess what both those guys sat out their freshman year for the most part Tebow was crucial as a runner and I remember Watson played Scar and ended their 5 game winning streak on a torn acl

Those were 2 special quarterbacks not just because of the talent they had

Dawgs are just getting worried he was probably lied to and may transfer to a better situation which he has tons out there to chose from

Fromm may start next year too

Say they play bama close again in atl but lose by 10 but win big in bowl game do u actually think they go with anyone but Fromm?

Lol I hope they do they really think they got Tua or maybe even better in Fields just sitting there waiting for deployment just like how saban did them snatched their souls out their chest along with that NC they are desperate for

 

[vol-un-tear]

Yep and Fromm responded like a real one supposed to just like he did in Atlanta and against OU

Dawgs are dumb af they automatically assume they have Watson or Tebow sitting on the bench

And guess what both those guys sat out their freshman year for the most part Tebow was crucial as a runner and I remember Watson played Scar and ended their 5 game winning streak on a torn acl

Those were 2 special quarterbacks not just because of the talent they had

Dawgs are just getting worried he was probably lied to and may transfer to a better situation which he has tons out there to chose from

Fromm may start next year too

Say they play bama close again in atl but lose by 10 but win big in bowl game do u actually think they go with anyone but Fromm?

Lol I hope they do they really think they got Tua or maybe even better in Fields just sitting there waiting for deployment just like how saban did them snatched their souls out their chest along with that NC they are desperate for

Agree they should be happy.

 

[MikeVol44]

Auburn hasn't won in Athens since 2005... Auburn does have the talent to make it a close, but they'll have to do some things they haven't done well all season. They'll have to be able to run the ball and pass protect, which they've struggled with all season. So its possible for Auburn to make it a close game, but I don't think its likely.

Yeah....I agree with you....remember....I have said that it will be INTERESTING to see how Chaney calls the game....that's what I meant....

But strange things have happened this year....like UT beating Auburn at Auburn---when was the last time we won there???

And Florida beat LSU--just how in the Hades did that happen????

I agree that it's not likely....but if UGA comes in the least bit overconfident, or if Chaney shows his infamous inconsistency in play-calling....it will get interestingly close....

Just my 2 cents....take it or leave it..... I've been wrong before.....

 

[MikeVol44]

Pruitt needs an OC he can hand the reigns to and let him run. If he has to micromanage his OC then this isn’t going to work out for anybody. I hope Helton is the guy but would rather have a more sure thing like Chaney especially if he brought Pittman.

Word is Chaney fell in love with Knoxville years ago. Not the fan fiction “he ain’t never gonna leave” stuff fans make up when they’re at a school but genuinely loved it here.

This stupid obsession and lover affair for Chaney as an OC is just flat out ridiculous....

We saw his inconsistency with a good offense when he was here...and two first-round draft picks at WR...

We saw him last year struggle to put up 20 points against a ND team that Miami beat by 33...
We saw him last year put up 230 yards total offense against Auburn at Auburn...in the regular season before their best RB got hammered by Bama's D...
And we saw him totally collapse in the 2nd half (10 points) against BAMA with our HC making adjustments and calling the defensive plays....
And he accomplished all of that with the best talent UGA has had on offense since---I don't know--at least 15 years!!

Not to mention the mediocrity we've seen from UGA this year against LSU......
and that not so dominant performance against a mediocre KY team that had to have help from officials to beat Mizzou.....

This UGA team still has 2 more losses coming to them....and yes....my opinion is skewed with personal bias....
But that's all you guys have going for you by thinking Chaney is the answer at OC....just personal bias....

I've seen some solid game plans this year from Helton while fielding some of the WORST talent on offense since the '70s....

I think his upside is WAY better than Chaney's ceiling at UGA....

 

[Jack Burton]

This stupid obsession and lover affair for Chaney as an OC is just flat out ridiculous....

We saw his inconsistency with a good offense when he was here...and two first-round draft picks at WR...

We saw him last year struggle to put up 20 points against a ND team that Miami beat by 33...
We saw him last year put up 230 yards total offense against Auburn at Auburn...in the regular season before their best RB got hammered by Bama's D...
And we saw him totally collapse in the 2nd half (10 points) against BAMA with our HC making adjustments and calling the defensive plays....
And he accomplished all of that with the best talent UGA has had on offense since---I don't know--at least 15 years!!

Not to mention the mediocrity we've seen from UGA this year against LSU......
and that not so dominant performance against a mediocre KY team that had to have help from officials to beat Mizzou.....

This UGA team still has 2 more losses coming to them....and yes....my opinion is skewed with personal bias....
But that's all you guys have going for you by thinking Chaney is the answer at OC....just personal bias....

I've seen some solid game plans this year from Helton while fielding some of the WORST talent on offense since the '70s....

I think his upside is WAY better than Chaney's ceiling at UGA....

I’m not married to Chaney. He passed too much when he was here at UT. However, he would have likely put more than 7 offensive points on the board vs Charlotte. I’m just saying we should be open to making a change IF we can upgrade.

 

[MikeVol44]

I’m not married to Chaney. He passed too much when he was here at UT. However, he would have likely put more than 7 offensive points on the board vs Charlotte. I’m just saying we should be open to making a change IF we can upgrade.

And I've been saying that he's NOT an upgrade......

And it's just not very intelligent to think the OC is the problem with the LACK of talent we have on this offense and in the FIRST year of a rebuild.....

 

[Atlanta917]

Yeah....I agree with you....remember....I have said that it will be INTERESTING to see how Chaney calls the game....that's what I meant....

But strange things have happened this year....like UT beating Auburn at Auburn---when was the last time we won there???

And Florida beat LSU--just how in the Hades did that happen????

I agree that it's not likely....but if UGA comes in the least bit overconfident, or if Chaney shows his infamous inconsistency in play-calling....it will get interestingly close....

Just my 2 cents....take it or leave it..... I've been wrong before.....

That's true. Chaney has shown that he will abandon the run early, so its a definite possibility. I just think if a team is going to exploit UGA's rush defense GT will be the more likely candidate.

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

Every time Ga is on the tube I watch Cade Mays. I think it is a travesty they let him leave the state. But, he has the MEAN streak everyone is talking about. He goes until the whistle blows and he tries to drive his man into the ground We need a whole rack of players like that.

It's not like we can force him to stay. What do you propose we do? He didn't want to be here. Move on.

 

[LakeMaryFLVol]

This comment by Tim Irwin yesterday caught my ear on the radio.

"I was very much in favor of doing whatever took to hire a great defensive head coach -- and I think Pruitt could be that guy -- and coupling him, and spending some money, to get an offensive coordinator like Chaney and a line coach like Pittman back in there. And I believe, and I have reasons for believing this, that they would have come."

He doubled down later in the show

"It's over now, but I wish he would have gotten Chaney and Pittman in here with him to help him run the offense."

Tim provides the real status of the program imo . If I want to check in to see how far we have to go, I listen to him. He made an earlier comment this year about the fact that the young men are being coached up for first time in a long time. Provided some long term REALISTIC hope

 

[LocoVol]

I agree, I think he by far has the most honesty in his Vol discussions. I always liked Doug Matthews also but I feel hes a little soft on criticism with Phil as AD.