Did Bajakian leave on his own terms?

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LittleDTO said:
Ha ha. Neither. My hair cutting skills would be a #2 guard on the side and faded up. Scissors aren't needed. Ha ha.

I don't have the connections I once did. However, I do know this.
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Not going to dispute your insider status...I've seen your contributions and I respect them, but the kind of scenario I'm proposing wouldn't have anyone but Butch and Jake involved...you don't tell your longtime friend that you want changes in the scheme and him counter with a preference for the status quo...in a town hall meeting. Unless you're one of the two principles, you couldn't be privy to that. I'm not even saying this happened...but it's possible...and in the spirit of this thread. :hi:
 
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butchna said:
Not going to dispute your insider status...I've seen your contributions and I respect them, but the kind of scenario I'm proposing wouldn't have anyone but Butch and Jake involved...you don't tell your longtime friend that you want changes in the scheme and him counter with a preference for the status quo...in a town hall meeting. Unless you're one of the two principles, you couldn't be privy to that. I'm not even saying this happened...but it's possible...and in the spirit of this thread. :hi:
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I guess anything is possible. I do know that Butch didn't want coach Jake to leave and I do know the reasons he did.
I'm not really an insider either. I just spread the info when I get it.
 
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LittleDTO said:
I guess anything is possible. I do know that Butch didn't want coach Jake to leave and I do know the reasons he did.
I'm not really an insider either. I just spread the info when I get it.
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Appreciate it too. :hi:
 
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SPIN, SPIN,, SPIN.. how many ways are these questions gonna be asked !!! He's gone, who cares why. HE made the choice to go!!!
 
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butchna said:
Very good question...My belief is that Butch was disgruntled with the offense by the end of the season and even more so after watching power running out of Ohio State's spread in the playoffs. He most likely wanted to change some of the emphasis in the scheme and Coach Jake may not have been on board with the scope of it. Who knows? :dunno:
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110% agree as well as what type of qb they want to run the offense and don't forget stretching the field granted oline issues were a part of that
 
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GAVol said:
All signs point to it being a career oriented move. He'd been in the NFL before with Lovie Smith. He's making more money. And no way they'd force out an OC a couple of weeks before signing day by choice.
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How do you know he's making more money? What does a QB coach in the NFL make?
 
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MADISONGAVOL said:
110% agree as well as what type of qb they want to run the offense and don't forget stretching the field granted oline issues were a part of that
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I didn't have a problem with Bajakian...I think he worked with what he had...his job would have gotten easier this year IMO.
 
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ksgovols said:
I was more worried about play calling when Worley was running read option when everybody in the stadium knew he was going to keep it than I was later in the season when Dobbs was at qb.

It was a little square peg/round hole to me.
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i was wondering about that,they could have protected Worley better and gave him a little more time to pass the ball
 
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If Bajakian was forced out, is Debord an upgrade?
We will certainly see...but just think of all the great talking points on VN until this fall......should be fun
 
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No he did not. He left under the terms the Tampa Bay Buccaneers gave him to come be their QB coach.
 
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I have always thought that Butch was displeased with the overall production of the offense the last two seasons.

I would not be surprised at all if Butch asked him to look for a new job so he wouldn't have to fire a friend, because that's what was about to happen if the offense did not show dramatic improvemet in 2015.

The FL, Mizzou, Ole Miss and Vandy games were enough to get Jake fired imho!!
 
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Dougie_D said:
We all know that Butch is loyal. And it seems like he only goes after people who he's previously worked with.

Bajakian and Butch were together for 10 years. 2 years as QB coach while Butch was OC and DeBord was the HC.

How long has Bajakian been itching to go back to the NFL? Did he just use CBJ until they got to a job like Tennessee?

Does anybody know if he left on his own terms or was he kind of forced out?
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He left on his own terms. Why does this need a thread? Pointless assumptions/here-say. Tampa bay....nfl...$$$$. And, he's gone so what does it matter?
 
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CarbonVol said:
When Butch was hired he said he doesn't brand his offense he simply forms his offense around the personel he has. That was either a lie or they don't know what the heck they are doing. If he thought Worley was set up for the read option he has lost his mind.

We ran IMO the worst offense possible for a high school Oline that we have. Very slow developing run plays is ridiculous. I hope Debord improves this offense. It won't take much. I really can't think or a worse candidate to hire that was available. I don't see the benefit in bringing this old geezer in. Butch needs to step out of his conservative little bubble and be a man and make a real hire. This was a chicken sh*t move.
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If you dislike the current coaching staff as much as the above demonstrates. Maybe you'd be happy with another team. I doubt it by your tone but might be worth a try!

GBO!!!
 
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CarbonVol said:
When Butch was hired he said he doesn't brand his offense he simply forms his offense around the personel he has. That was either a lie or they don't know what the heck they are doing. If he thought Worley was set up for the read option he has lost his mind.

We ran IMO the worst offense possible for a high school Oline that we have. Very slow developing run plays is ridiculous. I hope Debord improves this offense. It won't take much. I really can't think or a worse candidate to hire that was available. I don't see the benefit in bringing this old geezer in. Butch needs to step out of his conservative little bubble and be a man and make a real hire. This was a chicken sh*t move.
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Don't hold back tell us how you really feel. I suffered through Wyatt's 58 to 1962 seasons. Debord and CBJ don't worry me.
 
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It's all pretty obvious I think. Butch reads VN religiously and saw all the *****ing about Jake during the season so based on what he saw he figured out a change was needed...I mean we do carry a lot of weight don't we?:rolleyes:
 
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butchna said:
Very good question...My belief is that Butch was disgruntled with the offense by the end of the season and even more so after watching power running out of Ohio State's spread in the playoffs. He most likely wanted to change some of the emphasis in the scheme and Coach Jake may not have been on board with the scope of it. Who knows? :dunno:
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I cant prove this point, but if a smart nerd is on..who can remember every post..this is what happened and our bowl game was jones running the offense for the first time this year...just an opinion i have. or my thought process..


also a drinking/drunk post
 
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gunner said:
I have always thought that Butch was displeased with the overall production of the offense the last two seasons.

I would not be surprised at all if Butch asked him to look for a new job so he wouldn't have to fire a friend, because that's what was about to happen if the offense did not show dramatic improvemet in 2015.

The FL, Mizzou, Ole Miss and Vandy games were enough to get Jake fired imho!!
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So much wrong here. The explanation is simple and has already been expressed. Any other narrative is just false.
 
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