DG's Spring Game Takeaways

#1

DiderotsGhost

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2011
Messages
4,638
Likes
23,598
#1
Time for my (likely) only roundup for the spring.

Unfortunately, I didn’t get to attend the spring game in person, as I’m slammed with work right now, and a 7-hour round-trip drive from Atlanta would’ve been ill-advised, but I did watch on TV. First off, we should state for the record that a ‘spring game’ can only tell us so much. Remember QD's great performance last season? It wasn't much of a predictor of the 2017 season. That said, this year’s less gimmicky game was probably more meaningful than last year’s spectacle. Here were the things I found interesting.

The Game

JG. JG is playing much better under pressure than last season. He made a lot of good throws. I continue to think that JG has the potential to develop into a top-notch QB with proper coaching. Pretty fun to finally get to see “his wheels” in the spring game, as well. He looked much faster, but I suspect he was always playing a little banged up last season and that’s why he seemed so slow. JG looks better in a pro-style system IMO than he did in the spread. Overall, JG's performance was impressive, albeit with the caveat that this was just the spring game.

McBride. McBride's performance left a lot to be desired, but there were some positives, as well. He made a lot of bad passes early; overthrew what could’ve been a TD on the first play. He then threw an INT on the next play. He had a very bad pass at beginning of the 2nd Half that was almost picked off. Then he let another pass sail for an INT under pressure late in the game. His throw on the TD was great, but I can really only think of maybe a few moments where he looked good. That said, there is the huge caveat that he played behind that awful 2nd team O-line and even a lot of great QBs would’ve looked bad behind it. So I’m not sure that we learned much about McBride from the spring game, other than that JG seems world's ahead of him right now.

The Wide Receivers. This will be our most improved position group this season. Last season, it was a huge weakness. Brandon Johnson started emerging towards the end of the year and he continues to get better. Josh Palmer is looking better, as well. Marquez Callaway continues to play well and made a great TD catch on a pass from JG. Throw a hungry Jauan Jennings back into the mix, and I can see our WR corp going from a weakness last year to a strength this season. This is one big reason for optimism this season.

The RBs. Thought both Chandler and Jordan looked pretty good out there as, well. On paper, we really look a lot better right now at the skill positions than we did at the same time last season. There’s only one problem.

O-line looks real bad. Not unexpected, but even the 1st team O-line seemed to fall apart pretty quickly when the blitz came. And that 2nd team O-line was TURR-I-BLE. This could be like 2014 again where every O-line injury we have is going to be huge, because there’s a huge drop-off from the starters to the reserves. The announcers downplayed it a bit (‘playing guys out of position’), but even if we get Trey Smith back, I can see O-line being a huge problem. .

The overall synopsis on the offense.
We’re probably being very underrated in terms of skill players, but I don’t see us having any chance to compete with the SEC elite (Alabama, Georgia, Auburn) unless the O-line sees major improvement quickly. And it’s tough to find “quick fixes” on OL. Against top-notch SEC defenses with strong blitzing D-lines, we’re going to struggle. That said, I think our offense will be much improved this season, but that 'improvement' may be going from #110 to #50.


Other Thoughts

Keller Chryst. Chryst won't be on campus for another couple of months. We don’t know how good Chryst will be, but I don't think he's going to be anointed starter. JG is playing well and Chryst is not going to have an easy time beating him for the job. Regardless, I’m pretty sure that, barring injuries, our starting QB come October is either Chryst or JG.

West Virginia. The weird thing is that I come away more optimistic about our odds against WVa. Teams like Bama and Georgia are going to use their D-line to eat us apart, but WVa’s weak defense isn’t necessarily going to give our offense the same problems. If our offense can score a bunch of points, we might have a shot. We’re still underdogs, and it’ll be tough to win Game #1 in the new regime, but it’s a more winnable game than many are giving us credit for. And if we’re going to have a successful season, we’re going to have to cobble together some tough wins against teams like WVa, Florida, Mizzou, and South Carolina.

Tyson Helton. It's early and I'm not one for grand predictions, but he's a much better OC than we’ve had in years. Certainly the best since Cheney, at least.

The staff. I’m actually pretty happy with our staff overall and think this is the best staff we’ve probably had in at least 12 years. Not saying ‘best staff in America’ or anything crazy --- but I don’t look at anyone on the staff and say ‘how did that guy get the job?’ David Johnson at WR coach particularly impresses me.

Guys that could start at Bama or UGA. Media people keep saying none of our guys would start at Bama or Georgia. This is a huge exaggeration IMO. We’re not at the level of Bama or UGA, but guys like Marquez Callaway, Jauan Jennings, and Trey Smith would absolutely make a starting line-up at any school in America. Darrell Taylor and Nigel Warrior are in the discussion, as well. If fully healthy, Darrin Kirkland, Daniel Bituli, and Shy Tuttle are also in that conversation. The problem is that we don’t have enough of those guys right now. Even our worst teams have had superstars, but you need at least 22 great players on offense and defense (starters + backups) to compete for national titles. Right now, we’re very short of that number.

Defense. I didn’t get a great sense of where the defense was at in this game. I will say we're deeper on defense than offense as the 2nd team defense played much better than the 2nd team offense, but that doesn't necessarily mean we're 'deep' on defense; merely that the 2nd unit offense is pretty thin.

Growing Pains. We'll face some significant growing pains in the 1st year for multiple reasons. First off, shifting philosophies on defense is always difficult and normally takes more than 1 year. While we have reasonable personnel for the shift, it's still unlikely that our D comes out playing like Alabama on Game 1. Likewise, a shift in philosophy on offense could cause problems; I think our QBs can adjust; it's more the size issue. Pro-style offenses need bigger bodies; Pruitt has been trying to rapidly transform our offense through recruiting, but it's going to take some time. So even though I think we have more talent than people realize on the roster, the style changes will be difficult in Year 1.

The summation So what did learn overall from the spring game? Maybe not a ton, but we did learn a little. I am encouraged by improved WR play and the fact that JG continues to develop. Right now, I think we’ll make a bowl game, but I also think we’re losing at least 4 games. A weak O-line and the growing pains associated with philosophy changes on both offense and defense will limit the ceiling in Y1. And in spite of all of that, I can't wait for the season to start!

GBO!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 59 people
#2
#2
Good Summary!! :hi:

If we can get Trey and Chance Hall back (and they stay Healthy) could be game changer for Oline, if not.....Yikes!?! :blink::blink:


.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
#3
#3
I believe the question was which player on Tennessee would start at Alabama, and I agree with the no one answer. Trey Smith, he has been out due to medical. Jennings also has not practiced this spring, and he didn't play the majority of last year. he is an unknown. Callaway can make some great plays, but is still inconsistent.
Could all of these plays, and more, take the next step and start shining this year? Yes
No one is there yet. I saw glimpses, but still saw a lot of why we only won 4 games last year. Still need to work on developing the plays and for goodness sakes, tackling! Pretty sure I saw a walk on RB on Orange team break tackles and drag the pile about 10+ yards.

Otherwise, good analysis.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#4
#4
Good Summary!! :hi:

If we can get Trey and Chance Hall back (and they stay Healthy) could be game changer for Oline, if not.....Yikes!?! :blink::blink:


.

With Trey and Chance healthy, we probably still have the worst O-Line in the SEC (especially factoring in the depth and S&C deficiencies). Without them, our OL is probably bottom half of the Sun Belt.

What Butch did with S&C, his blocking schemes, and his OL coach buddy hiring system will set us back on the OL until 2020.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#5
#5
With Trey and Chance healthy, we probably still have the worst O-Line in the SEC (especially factoring in the depth and S&C deficiencies). Without them, our OL is probably bottom half of the Sun Belt.

What Butch did with S&C, his blocking schemes, and his OL coach buddy hiring system will set us back on the OL until 2020.


No talent and very weak means our OL sucks.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#6
#6
I believe the question was which player on Tennessee would start at Alabama, and I agree with the no one answer. Trey Smith, he has been out due to medical. Jennings also has not practiced this spring, and he didn't play the majority of last year. he is an unknown. Callaway can make some great plays, but is still inconsistent.
Could all of these plays, and more, take the next step and start shining this year? Yes
No one is there yet. I saw glimpses, but still saw a lot of why we only won 4 games last year. Still need to work on developing the plays and for goodness sakes, tackling! Pretty sure I saw a walk on RB on Orange team break tackles and drag the pile about 10+ yards.

Otherwise, good analysis.

I now it's spring. But as I stated yesterday, a whole lot of the tackling look like some kind of group dance.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#7
#7
We’ve not had a dominant O-Line in years.

Tired of seeing us getting pushed around.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#9
#9
We’ve not had a dominant O-Line in years.

Tired of seeing us getting pushed around.

Ever since Butch took over. We would have been fairly competitive if Worley, Peterman, Dobbs, Dormady, JG could have more than a half of a second to throw.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 6 people
#10
#10
Ever since Butch took over. We would have been fairly competitive if Worley, Peterman, Dobbs, Dormady, JG could have more than a half of a second to throw.

2015, in particular, we would've been a 10-2 or 11-1 team with a legit O-line. That was a really good team with a struggling OL.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#11
#11
They are a 7-5 team right now. I'm glad we have a long off season to improve. A lot of mistakes to correct.

I'm glad to more formations on both sides of the ball.

I think CJP will be good at the tough conversations that need to happen.

I would have like to seen Mcbride run with the 1s.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#12
#12
They are a 7-5 team right now. I'm glad we have a long off season to improve. A lot of mistakes to correct.

I'm glad to more formations on both sides of the ball.

I think CJP will be good at the tough conversations that need to happen.

I would have like to seen Mcbride run with the 1s.

7-5?? Really curious to know which 7 games we will win... we are probably a 5-7 team right now.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#13
#13
JG's issues are still in his head. He has to do pre/post snap reads much better and stop holding the ball so long.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#14
#14
It all starts with recruiting big strong guys... it’s not that hard.

The problem is that we have done that. Basically everyone on our O-line was at least somewhat highly recruited, if not very highly recruited. These aren't 3-star guys who had Tennessee as far and away their best offer, which makes their play as a collective unit the last few years even more disappointing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#15
#15
7-5?? Really curious to know which 7 games we will win... we are probably a 5-7 team right now.

Three of the OOC games should be gimmes. UT has more raw talent than WVU, Vandy, UK, and Mizzou. As far as pure talent, UT probably still has more talent than USCe.

If Pruitt is the right guy and the coach we're hoping for, this is a 7 regular season win team. Minus one then it is somewhat of a more negative outlook. Minus two, he's probably not the right guy. Plus one then it is more of a positive outlook. Plus 2... start looking for a street to name after him.

Development is more of an issue than talent in the roster he inherited. There are some talent holes... but the great coaches figure out how to win games in spite of less than ideal circumstances.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#16
#16
Three of the OOC games should be gimmes. UT has more raw talent than WVU, Vandy, UK, and Mizzou. As far as pure talent, UT probably still has more talent than USCe.

If Pruitt is the right guy and the coach we're hoping for, this is a 7 regular season win team. Minus one then it is somewhat of a more negative outlook. Minus two, he's probably not the right guy. Plus one then it is more of a positive outlook. Plus 2... start looking for a street to name after him.

Wtf are you smoking?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#17
#17
Three of the OOC games should be gimmes. UT has more raw talent than WVU, Vandy, UK, and Mizzou. As far as pure talent, UT probably still has more talent than USCe.

If Pruitt is the right guy and the coach we're hoping for, this is a 7 regular season win team. Minus one then it is somewhat of a more negative outlook. Minus two, he's probably not the right guy. Plus one then it is more of a positive outlook. Plus 2... start looking for a street to name after him.

Development is more of an issue than talent in the roster he inherited. There are some talent holes... but the great coaches figure out how to win games in spite of less than ideal circumstances.


Maybe more overall talents but not alt certain positions or difference makers
 
#18
#18
7-5?? Really curious to know which 7 games we will win... we are probably a 5-7 team right now.

WV- toss up.

Scrub - w

Scrub- w

Fl- toss up

Ga - toss up

Auburn - toss up

Gumps - toss up

SC- win

MO - win

Scrub win.

Ky- win

Vandy- win

What was on the field Saturday would win those 7 and maybe more.

WV and SC is my guess for the difference.

The days of losing gimmie games is over. I'm glad for that too.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#19
#19
WV- toss up.

Scrub - w

Scrub- w

Fl- toss up

Ga - toss up

Auburn - toss up

Gumps - toss up

SC- win

MO - win

Scrub win.

Ky- win

Vandy- win

What was on the field Saturday would win those 7 and maybe more.

WV and SC is my guess for the difference.

The days of losing gimmie games is over. I'm glad for that too.


You are actually delusional. WVU, UGA, UA, AU are straight up losses. USC and Mizz are definitely not automatic wins either.

I will agree that I think the FL game is a toss up. But we haven't exactly fared well in this game over the last decade.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#20
#20
Maybe Chance Hall and Trey Smith will be ready in Aug. Maybe Jahmir Johnson makes a push. Our OL will be different if these guys are ready. We’ll see what happens
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#21
#21
Development is more of an issue than talent in the roster he inherited. There are some talent holes... but the great coaches figure out how to win games in spite of less than ideal circumstances.

Development is one issue, the other HUGE elephant in the room is players laying down in 2016 and 2017 - see Vandy, USCe, Georgia, Mizzo, and Kentucky.

CJP hit the nail on the head with his "quitting" comment, this alone is the biggest obstacle to overcome and it will take some time. Don't be surprised if we see several players announce their intent to transfer over the next couple of weeks, which will be driven by the "exit" interviews being conducted by CJP and staff.

CJP's attitude is simple, practice and play with purpose and effort or "See ya".
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
#22
#22
WV- toss up.

Scrub - w

Scrub- w

Fl- toss up

Ga - L

Auburn - L

Gumps - L

SC- toss up

MO - toss up

Scrub win.

Ky- win

Vandy- win

What was on the field Saturday would win those 7 and maybe more.

WV and SC is my guess for the difference.

The days of losing gimmie games is over. I'm glad for that too.

Fixed.

Should be 5 win floor, 9 win ceiling.

Expect 6-7 wins.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#23
#23
No talent and very weak means our OL sucks.

I couldn’t tell much from the game. Was D told to hold off on hard hitting?

But one thing shocking me a bit was the o-line dominating our #1 D!

Overall our D was poor last year - but earlier in year and at times they could stop some drives and occaisionally looked ok. Is it possible our O-line is much better? Or is our D even much weaker than last year?
 
#24
#24
You are actually delusional. WVU, UGA, UA, AU are straight up losses. USC and Mizz are definitely not automatic wins either.

I will agree that I think the FL game is a toss up. But we haven't exactly fared well in this game over the last decade.

You are right there are no guarantees. Wins or losses. I've seen too many crazy ending to games to guarantee anything about any game.

Scheme change on offense is big. The scheme change on defense is the real wild card.
 
#25
#25
Maybe Chance Hall and Trey Smith will be ready in Aug. Maybe Jahmir Johnson makes a push. Our OL will be different if these guys are ready. We’ll see what happens

There are several guys on the D Line that may still get a look at the O Line. Beats guarding the water cooler.

Let's hope those yet to arrive are putting in the proper gym work. Them showing up ready to compete would be a welcome surprise.
 
Advertisement



Back
Top