Derek Dooley Vs. Recruiting Smart Players

[bamacheats]

Leonard Little was pretty good...murderer
Dwayne Goodrich was pretty good...murderer
Ray Lewis was pretty good...murderer
O.J. was pretty good...murderer
Stallworth was pretty good...murderer

I'm thinking Vandy can keep the smart guys, I like the thuggs cuz they keep it real!
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[Behr]

Leonard Little was pretty good...murderer
Dwayne Goodrich was pretty good...murderer
Ray Lewis was pretty good...murderer
O.J. was pretty good...murderer
Stallworth was pretty good...murderer

I'm thinking Vandy can keep the smart guys, I like the thuggs cuz they keep it real!
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:crazy:

 

[craighead]

Fact of the matter is that any "elite" program is going to have a few "bad apples" on the team. That's just the way it is. Bama, Florida, OSU, Oklahoma etc, have all had incidents over the last few years. Everybody needs a few wildboys.

 

[hatingbamaisawayoflife]

so far he has done nothing imo since taking over but i reserve the right to give judgement after i see the boys on the field...the cupboard is not full but it is not bare.

 

[YankeeVol]

Coach Dooley will do a good job in recruiting, just give it a few years to get some depth and we will be just fine

 

[IPorange]

I want thugs

The meaner, the better. I want a guy to gauge the opposing players eyes.

 

[ob79]

I posted in another thread something similar to what the OP opined....basically, in order to rebuild depth quickly, CDD & co. need to target players who are SEC caliber but also hold a high(er) GPA & test scores, in order to avoid attrition from the team's signing classes & depth chart.

Its not necessarily a philosophy that needs to hold true throughout his tenure, but definitely one that should be adhered to while resurrecting this, once elite, program.

Its the quickest way to ensure that every need is filled and quality depth is developed.
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[hog88]

Smart is good but Vandy is full of them......

 

[WA_Vol]

Hey Guys (and Gals)! I am from South Louisiana and have been a Volunteers fan for years. I do not post on here often but I do have one thing I would like to mention. I have noticed that Dooley's recruiting style is a little different from Lane Kiffin's approach in that he is being alot more selective on the kids he is going after, instead of using the "Umbrella" approach like the previous staff. It seems as though he is targeting smarter players that have a greater chance of staying in school all 4-5 years opposed to becoming academic casualties in year 2 or 3 or not even qualifying at all. If the players he is recruiting are Tennessee quality, I like this approach. I like it quite a bit. It is going to take time to get this roster back where it needs to be to compete with Florida and Bama but I have the confidence we will get there, eventually. I live with a bunch of Tiger fans down here is Cajun Country and they absolutely love Derek Dooley. They wanted him to replace Les Miles. Alright folks. I am out! Just thought I would throw that out there. This topic is open for discussion. Go Vols Baby!

Good post. This is a smart approach if it's true. UT has had a problem retaining players.

The problem with this approach, you are eliminating a lot of top players each year. Vandy has had to use approach for years, and have difficulty getting enough quality players.

 

[TreeGreen]

Good post. This is a smart approach if it's true. UT has had a problem retaining players.

The problem with this approach, you are eliminating a lot of top players each year. Vandy has had to use approach for years, and have difficulty getting enough quality players.

We don't need Vandy admissions passing players we just need players who can put in enough effort to go to class and not flunk out.

 

[bigslk]

Ask Vandy how recruiting "smart" players is working out for them.

I want thugs, I want a kid who will run for 150 yards and 3 TD's and then after the game shoot an AK just because he feels like it.

The meaner, the better. I want a guy to gauge the opposing players eyes.

Basically, I want to be Florida.

All kidding aside, I just want to get back to winning football...been awhile since I woke up on a Saturday and thought, " We are going to beat the sh#t outta this team" and that team not be a WKU type.

+2 :good!:

 

[Brave Volunteer]

I wish people would stop comparing this approach to what Vandy does!

First of all, it is MUCH MUCH tougher to qualify to get into Vandy than it is UT. Just because Dooley is looking for smarter guys doesn't mean he's looking for only athletes smart enough to get into Vandy. Vandy does what they do because they have no other choice.

 

[lilesrt]

I wish people would stop comparing this approach to what Vandy does!

First of all, it is MUCH MUCH tougher to qualify to get into Vandy than it is UT. Just because Dooley is looking for smarter guys doesn't mean he's looking for only athletes smart enough to get into Vandy. Vandy does what they do because they have no other choice.

You can basically take all the energy it took to sign M. Dixon and throw it out the window. He looked great on tape but guess what? He did not qualify. He adds no benefit to us. The same holds true for the 2009 WR with the last name of Green. He was a four star and actually looked pretty promising. Guess what? Home boy could not make the grades. Take that effort, throw it out the window. John Brown, DT from Juco ranks, is another one who is on the fence. If JB cannot make it into UT what makes people think he is going to maintain grades good enough to stay at UT? Chances are he probably will not. The ultimate point I am trying to emphasize is that just because these players have four stars and are promising athletes does not make them a viable recruiting target. There are two parts to the equation. Athleticism and Academics. In college football they go hand in hand. IMO, it is better to sign a little less talented guy who can make the grades, that may take a little bit more time to develop, and be around for his entire career than it is to sign a bunch of thug, academic casualties that do not make it in or are forced to go the Juco route bc they cannot academically cut it. After all, most players in major college football are not truly productive until there Sophomore, Junior, and Senior years anyway.