Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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those that left was due to their own choice to voluntarily retire, were office workers (non-techinical) or still in probationary period.

they are now hiring for technical jobs as meteorologists, hydrologists, and radar technicians.

NWS hiring a few hundred people per year is typical. Is the left trying to make something out of nothing again, like when NWS did predict and warn about the Texas flooding and the left try to make something out of nothing over that?

I asked GROK how many people does NWS on average hire per year.....Grok responds: (my emphasis)

"The National Weather Service (NWS) doesn’t publicly release precise annual hiring numbers consistently, but I can provide an estimate based on available data and patterns. The NWS typically employs around 4,000–4,900 people across its 122 weather forecast offices, 13 river forecast centers, 9 national centers, and other support roles, with staffing levels fluctuating due to retirements, resignations, and budget constraints"

"In 2025, the NWS lost over 560 employees due to layoffs and early retirements, with about 375 being probationary employees and 500 taking buyouts. To address this, the NWS received approval to hire approximately 125 new meteorologists and specialists and sought 155 internal transfers to fill critical roles. This suggests a hiring range of 100–200 new employees in a high-turnover year to stabilize staffing, particularly in understaffed offices where vacancy rates reached 20% or higher at 52 of 122 forecast offices."

"Historically, hiring likely averages 100–300 employees annually to replace routine departures (retirements, resignations) and maintain operational capacity, though this varies with budget and policy changes. For example, a 2015–2025 comparison showed vacancy rates rising from 9.3% to 19%, indicating hiring hasn’t kept pace with losses in some years. Without specific annual hiring data, a conservative estimate based on these patterns suggests the NWS hires around 150–250 people per year on average, with spikes in years following significant staff reductions like 2025."

"Hiring numbers depend on budget and operational needs. For fiscal year 2024, the NWS budget was around $1.4 billion, supporting roughly 4,350 full-time equivalent positions. In 2025, despite proposed budget increases for NWS (about 6.7% for 2026), NOAA’s overall budget cuts and staff reductions indicate hiring may be limited to replacing essential roles rather than expanding the workforce

"Based on historical patterns and vacancy rates, the NWS likely hires a few hundred employees annually to maintain staffing, but no specific number for 2024 or 2025 hires is explicitly documented in the sources."
 
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GROK:

Edward Coristine, a 19-year-old former employee of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), known online as "Big Balls," was reportedly attacked in Washington, D.C., while intervening to protect a woman from an assault. According to multiple sources, the incident occurred late Sunday or early Monday at Swann Street and 14th Street in Northwest D.C. Coristine allegedly saw a group of teenagers attempting to carjack or assault a woman in her car and stepped in to defend her. He was severely beaten, suffering a concussion and other injuries, but reportedly saved the woman.

President Donald Trump and former DOGE head Elon Musk commented on the incident via social media. Trump posted on Truth Social, sharing a photo of a bloodied individual confirmed by sources to be Coristine, condemning the rising crime rates in D.C. and threatening to federalize the city if the situation persists. Musk, on X, detailed that a gang of about a dozen young men was involved, and Coristine’s intervention prevented the assault on the woman, though he was seriously injured. Two suspects have been arrested in connection with the attack.
 
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Federal government to drop 300,000 workers this year

About 80% of employees are expected to leave voluntarily while 20% are to be fired.
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"Office of Personnel Management director Scott Kupor said 80% of those employees would leave voluntarily and 20% would be fired. Kupor provided the figures to Reuters on Thursday.

That's a 12.5% reduction in the federal workforce since January."

Put on more steam...
 
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The largest of the listed expenses 14 billion, was paying people 8 months of salary to resign.

That’s not a new expense. That’s a savings. We were going to pay those people for 12 months this year and instead we cut their positions.

Article is a complete joke.

If it costs 14 billion for 8 months salary and you were going to pay 12 months; that means you saved 7 billion.
 
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The largest of the listed expenses 14 billion, was paying people 8 months of salary to resign.

That’s not a new expense. That’s a savings. We were going to pay those people for 12 months this year and instead we cut their positions.

Article is a complete joke.

If it costs 14 billion for 8 months salary and you were going to pay 12 months; that means you saved 7 billion.
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that is some straight up women's math you got there.

"It normally costs 500 dollars, I got it on sale for 300 dollars, so really I didn't spend 300 dollars, I saved 200 dollars." Vol8188.

we are paying them to get nothing out of them, and usually having to go back and backfill those same jobs we are paying people to not do. so no, its not some sort of savings, it was money spent that we are having to spend more money on fixing. there is an article above yours that talks about rehiring on those jobs.

but even if you take out that 14 billion as a one time cost item to fit your bias, its still 7 billion spent on about 1.5 billion saved. still net loss, and pretty bad ratio at that.

and not one thing DOGE has done is irreversible. DOGE was a dog and pony show to keep you distracted, while nothing really changed, and even more money was spent.
 
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that is some straight up women's math you got there.

"It normally costs 500 dollars, I got it on sale for 300 dollars, so really I didn't spend 300 dollars, I saved 200 dollars." Vol8188.

we are paying them to get nothing out of them, and usually having to go back and backfill those same jobs we are paying people to not do. so no, its not some sort of savings, it was money spent that we are having to spend more money on fixing. there is an article above yours that talks about rehiring on those jobs.

but even if you take out that 14 billion as a one time cost item to fit your bias, its still 7 billion spent on about 1.5 billion saved. still net loss, and pretty bad ratio at that.

and not one thing DOGE has done is irreversible. DOGE was a dog and pony show to keep you distracted, while nothing really changed, and even more money was spent.
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You really just like to scream at the clouds. These positions already existed and where being paid based on the budget DOGE/Trump inherited.

They were going to be paid for the entire year, 21b. If you only pay them 8 months that’s a 7B savings. Not an expense.

I have a feeling that even you understand that. And no we aren’t backfilling those same jobs either
 
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federalnewsnetwork.com

VA’s severe health care staffing shortages are on the rise, watchdog finds

The VA inspector general’s report doesn’t fully capture the impact of VA’s plans to reduce its total headcount.
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Did you read the article? I’m assuming not. These are for clinical positions. And the reason clinical positions can’t be filled is because they are nowhere near market value.

Here’s an example. If I’m reading this right they’re looking for a full time provider to start at a salary that would be low for a RN

www.usajobs.gov

Physician Assistant (Mid-Level Practitioner)

<p>Corrections professionals who foster a humane and secure environment and ensure public safety by preparing individuals for successful reentry into our communities.</p>
www.usajobs.gov
 
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Did you read the article? I’m assuming not. These are for clinical positions. And the reason clinical positions can’t be filled is because they are nowhere near market value.

Here’s an example. If I’m reading this right they’re looking for a full time provider to start at a salary that would be low for a RN

www.usajobs.gov

Physician Assistant (Mid-Level Practitioner)

<p>Corrections professionals who foster a humane and secure environment and ensure public safety by preparing individuals for successful reentry into our communities.</p>
www.usajobs.gov
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OIG Determination of Veterans Health Administration’s Severe Occupational Staffing Shortages Fiscal Year 2025

The Veterans Access, Choice, and Accountability Act (VACAA) of 2014 and VA Choice and Quality Employment Act (VCQEA) of 2017 requires the VA Office of Inspector General (OIG) to determine, annually, a minimum of five clinical and five nonclinical Veterans Health Administration (VHA) occupations w
www.vaoig.gov www.vaoig.gov
 
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OIG Determination of Veterans Health Administration’s Severe Occupational Staffing Shortages Fiscal Year 2025

The Veterans Access, Choice, and Accountability Act (VACAA) of 2014 and VA Choice and Quality Employment Act (VCQEA) of 2017 requires the VA Office of Inspector General (OIG) to determine, annually, a minimum of five clinical and five nonclinical Veterans Health Administration (VHA) occupations w
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Once again, per your own article, the issue is with clinical positions. Once again, did you read the article?

In your mind what have you proven here?
 
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