Democrats already talking about voter fraud., The election hasn't even started.

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MichaelMoore.com : Report Warns of Potential Voting Problems in 10 States

Two weeks before the midterm elections, at least 10 states, including Maryland, remain ripe for voting problems, according to a study released yesterday by a nonpartisan clearinghouse that tracks electoral reforms across the United States.
The report by Electionline.org says those states, and possibly others, could encounter trouble on Election Day because they have a combustible mix of fledgling voting-machine technology, confusion over voting procedures or recent litigation over election rules -- and close races.
The report cautions that the Nov. 7 elections, which will determine which political party controls the House and Senate, promise "to bring more of what voters have come to expect since the 2000 elections -- a divided body politic, an election system in flux and the possibility -- if not certainty -- of problems at polls nationwide."
In a state-by-state canvass, the 75-page report singles out places, such as Indiana and Arizona, where courts have upheld stringent new laws requiring voters to show poll workers specific forms of identification. It cites states such as Ohio and Pennsylvania, which have switched to electronic voting machines whose accuracy has been challenged. And it points to states such as Colorado and Washington, which have departed from the tradition of polling sites in neighborhood precincts.
The report of the clearinghouse, sponsored by the Pew Charitable Trusts, is the latest of several warnings in recent weeks and months by organizations and scholars who say that electoral problems persist in spite of six years of efforts by the federal government and states to correct voting flaws. The flaws gripped the public's attention after the close 2000 presidential election, which led to recounts in Florida and the intervention of the Supreme Court.
The election shambles of 2000 prompted Congress to pass in 2002 legislation intended to help states make significant election changes, such as by replacing outdated voting equipment. Some of the changes, including making sure that databases of registered voters are accurate, were required to be in effect by this year.
Doug Chapin, director of Electionline.org, said "things are getting better over time." But he said many of the changes in recent years have led to new problems and disputes. For instance, the decisions by many states to convert to electronic voting machines have yielded new concerns about whether they are secure and accurate, about paper records as backup proof and -- this year -- about whether the electronic or paper record should be considered the official tally if a candidate demands a recount.
The report cites Maryland for what it calls a "dismal primary" in September that "included human and machine failures galore," in part because Montgomery County election officials forgot to distribute to polling places the access cards needed for its electronic machines to work. The study raises questions about whether Montgomery officials are prepared for the bigger crowds in the general election and whether large numbers of mistrustful voters will resort to absentee ballots.
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Sadly, electronic voting machines have become the new scapegoat for anybody that loses an election. People act as if voter fraud is a new concept.
 
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Ah! Blackwell, GOP for Governor in Ohio, was secretary of state and has been accused of voter fraud in 04 for Bush.

Now that he is running for Governor democrats in the state have already charged him with "writing" a computer program that he alone has access to and has already won the election campaign even though he is down!
 
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There's not a much easier tactic than playing on people's fear of technology.
 
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Gustave Gilbert conversation with Hermann Goering.

Later in the conversation, Gilbert recorded Goering's observations that the common people can always be manipulated into supporting and fighting wars by their political leaders:
[SIZE=-1]We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars." "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

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OrangeEmpire said:
Ah! Blackwell, GOP for Governor in Ohio, was secretary of state and has been accused of voter fraud in 04 for Bush.

Now that he is running for Governor democrats in the state have already charged him with "writing" a computer program that he alone has access to and has already won the election campaign even though he is down!
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Some people never met a conspiracy theory they didn't like...
 
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That, or a lot of dead people voted in Northeast Ohio................and their votes were not counted.....
 
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Aren't you all a little worried that the electronic voting machines can be hacked?
 
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OWB said:
Aren't you all a little worried that the electronic voting machines can be hacked?
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The thought crosses my mind, but not really any moreso than with a paper ballot. No matter how you vote, you are placing some degree of trust in the hands of the vote counters.
 
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GAVol said:
The thought crosses my mind, but not really any moreso than with a paper ballot. No matter how you vote, you are placing some degree of trust in the hands of the vote counters.
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But with the electronic voting, there aren't any vote counters right?
 
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OWB said:
Aren't you all a little worried that the electronic voting machines can be hacked?
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If they can be hacked - what's to say they would consistently be hacked in a partisan manner?

Voter registration can be fraudulent - see the activities of ACORN as an example.
 
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I'm not really worried about it though, if worst comes to worst, we can always let the Supreme Court decided....oh wait..:sad:

Is it worst comes to worst, worse comes to worse, or worse comes to worst? Hmm..
 
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I think it's funny how this is slanted to where only Dems are whining. All I've heard for the past two years is that we better present 20 forms of picture ID and bring a blood sample to the polls because the walking dead and foreigners are voting en masse. I think there is more whining coming from the GOP than the Dems. Strange is that the same complaints from the Dems that are very vocal are quietly being supported by the GOP in many areas.
 
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OWB said:
Man we used to have some crazy acorn wars when I was younger. Those things sting..:mf_surrender:
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How about persimmon wars? The ripe ones make a mess, the unripe ones hurt like hell and the little leaves on make curve balls possible :dance2:
 
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With the issue here in GA, there is a HUGE loophole on early voting. The GOP closed all of these loopholes with election day voting but yet has left early voting wide open to voting fraud. There is this huge push for photo ID's but yet a huge loophole has been left on the early voting. Are we back to pandering again?
 
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