Defensive drills, what are they teaching?

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Watched practice this week and saw defensive linemen and linebackers going through a shedding drill where you shed one blocker and then the next. this was a dummy drill but the coaches had them turning into the block and pushing off with the outside hand when they should have been using the same side forearm to try and slide off the block and continue pursuit. Turning into the block gives the blocker control and slows pursuit. Using your forearm and keeping the blocker to your side gives you a chance to slide off the block and continue pursuit or puts the blocker in a situation that he has to hold to stop your pursuit.

Pruitt having been a defensive coordinator at Bama, tells me he knows better but then again maybe Bama's talent is so good that they can have bad technique and still get the job done.

What do you think? Is this a new technique? Maybe the drill has another purpose?

Edit: This was not a pass rush drill or a drill where the player was taking on the block to find the ball. This was shedding drill where the d player was in pursuit.

Update:Watched game film to see if players actually used this technique in game.. didn't actually see anyone turn into a blocker so maybe the drill has another purpose... did see a lot of SC holding not being called though.

Some of you apparently got triggered over my asking about the drill. I hope you don't get triggered this easily while driving.
 
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DVols33 said:
Watched practice this week and saw defensive linemen and linebackers going through a shedding drill where you shed one blocker and then the next. this was a dummy drill but the coaches had them turning into the block and pushing off with the outside hand when they should have been using the same side forearm to try and slide off the block and continue pursuit. Turning into the block gives the blocker control and slows pursuit. Using your forearm and keeping the blocker to your side gives you a chance to slide off the block and continue pursuit or puts the blocker in a situation that he has to hold to stop your pursuit.

Pruitt having been a defensive coordinator at Bama, tells me he knows better but then again maybe Bama's talent is so good that they can have bad technique and still get the job done.

What do you think? Is this a new technique? Maybe the drill has another purpose?

Edit: This was not a pass rush drill or a drill where the player was taking on the block to find the ball. This was shedding drill where the d player was in pursuit.
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I don’t have a clue, but I am glad you caught it!!!!! Please call the coaches ASAP and explain, better tell them what jr high school you learned out so they will take you seriously
 
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I'm confident that we have one of the best defensive coaching staffs in the country. Every defensive coach on this staff, with the exception of Terry Fair, has a wealth of Power 5 coaching experience. These guys probably wouldn't have as many years of coaching experience as they do at the Power 5 and NFL levels unless they're pretty dang good at their jobs. Pruitt has had a few sideline management and game management blunders, but that is to be expected from a first year head coach. With that being said, the team is clearly much better coached in terms of player development on both sides of the ball than what we saw under Butch and Dooley. We just don't have many big time players right now. The ones we do have are newcomers who are going to improve a ton going into 2019. Gotta give the staff a couple of years to go and get some more dudes.
 
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DVols33 said:
Watched practice this week and saw defensive linemen and linebackers going through a shedding drill where you shed one blocker and then the next. this was a dummy drill but the coaches had them turning into the block and pushing off with the outside hand when they should have been using the same side forearm to try and slide off the block and continue pursuit. Turning into the block gives the blocker control and slows pursuit. Using your forearm and keeping the blocker to your side gives you a chance to slide off the block and continue pursuit or puts the blocker in a situation that he has to hold to stop your pursuit.

Pruitt having been a defensive coordinator at Bama, tells me he knows better but then again maybe Bama's talent is so good that they can have bad technique and still get the job done.

What do you think? Is this a new technique? Maybe the drill has another purpose?

Edit: This was not a pass rush drill or a drill where the player was taking on the block to find the ball. This was shedding drill where the d player was in pursuit.
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Admin, can we get a set of emoji‘s? That’s the only way I can think of to respond to this.
 
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Shedding blocks is very important for defensive players. We are not good at it. It seems like anytime an offensive player gets a hand on our defensive guys, our guys cannot get free. This leads to guys being out of position and missed tackles. Just another basic technique that Pruitt should not have to teach to this team.
 
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I think they have hold position and shed.
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That's true if you're trying to find the ball or get up in the way of a pass but not if you are running at an angle to the blocker. Turning into the blocker enough to try and push off with your outside had gives the blocker the advantage. And in the drill there were two blockers to contend with so my thoughts were that the idea was to slide off the block.

I will be watching next game to see if the D line is interacting like this in the game for it would explain a lot about our defensive performance.
 
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Do you seriously think they only teach one technique ? The shed technique you use depends on where the ball is in relation to the block . This is a valid technique if the ball is behind the blocker and moving lateral to the block.
 
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I think coaches know how to teach proper technique when they get to this level.

Perhaps OP didn’t understand the concepts they were trying to teach because he wasn’t on the field with the group.

Analogy: A person sees three armed men take money from a bank and put it in the back of a truck. Should he call the police? No, because when he got closer at a different angle, he saw that they were Brinks employees and the truck was marked with the Brinks logo.

Moral of the Story: Be wary of what you observe when you don’t know the context.
 
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I think coaches know how to teach proper technique when they get to this level.

Perhaps OP didn’t understand the concepts they were trying to teach because he wasn’t on the field with the group.

Analogy: A person sees three armed men take money from a bank and put it in the back of a truck. Should he call the police? No, because when he got closer at a different angle, he saw that they were Brinks employees and the truck was marked with the Brinks logo.

Moral of the Story: Be wary of what you observe when you don’t know the context.
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Note to self : When planning Brinks job, get hold of some company logo clothing.
 
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DVols33 said:
Watched practice this week and saw defensive linemen and linebackers going through a shedding drill where you shed one blocker and then the next. this was a dummy drill but the coaches had them turning into the block and pushing off with the outside hand when they should have been using the same side forearm to try and slide off the block and continue pursuit. Turning into the block gives the blocker control and slows pursuit. Using your forearm and keeping the blocker to your side gives you a chance to slide off the block and continue pursuit or puts the blocker in a situation that he has to hold to stop your pursuit.

Pruitt having been a defensive coordinator at Bama, tells me he knows better but then again maybe Bama's talent is so good that they can have bad technique and still get the job done.

What do you think? Is this a new technique? Maybe the drill has another purpose?

Edit: This was not a pass rush drill or a drill where the player was taking on the block to find the ball. This was shedding drill where the d player was in pursuit.

Update:Watched game film to see if players actually used this technique in game.. didn't actually see anyone turn into a blocker so maybe the drill has another purpose... did see a lot of SC holding not being called though.

Some of you apparently got triggered over my asking about the drill. I hope you don't get triggered this easily while driving.
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So they were longarming the outside shoulder and turning to hold the edge?
 
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a vol n tears said:
There is a reason the op had permission to watch practice, and I doubt it was delivering iHop. Probably knows something. But of course Tenn has the best defensive coach of all time and never makes a mistake..
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You are right! He wasn't delivering Ihop, he was delivering pizzas to the team.
 
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DVols33 said:
Watched practice this week and saw defensive linemen and linebackers going through a shedding drill where you shed one blocker and then the next. this was a dummy drill but the coaches had them turning into the block and pushing off with the outside hand when they should have been using the same side forearm to try and slide off the block and continue pursuit. Turning into the block gives the blocker control and slows pursuit. Using your forearm and keeping the blocker to your side gives you a chance to slide off the block and continue pursuit or puts the blocker in a situation that he has to hold to stop your pursuit.

Pruitt having been a defensive coordinator at Bama, tells me he knows better but then again maybe Bama's talent is so good that they can have bad technique and still get the job done.

What do you think? Is this a new technique? Maybe the drill has another purpose?

Edit: This was not a pass rush drill or a drill where the player was taking on the block to find the ball. This was shedding drill where the d player was in pursuit.

Update:Watched game film to see if players actually used this technique in game.. didn't actually see anyone turn into a blocker so maybe the drill has another purpose... did see a lot of SC holding not being called though.

Some of you apparently got triggered over my asking about the drill. I hope you don't get triggered this easily while driving.
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I am curious, what level of expertise do you have to make this assessment? You seem to have some level of knowledge, but do you actually know what purpose the drill actually had? Not being smart, just asking to clarify the validity of the statements. I know I am not a defensive guru, but something tells me CJP and his staff are.
 
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