Defense to employ a Nose Tackle

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Sabanocchio said:
3-4 Defense - The Basics of the 3-4 Defense
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A NT is more common in the 3-4 as you know. UT played primarily 3 defensive tackles last season and 2 graduated. I thought the coaching staff might look at using a 3-4 some this year, from a personnel standpoint.

I know Monty is famous for the Tampa 2 using a 4-3. The Tampa 2 drops the middle LB into a cover 3 to prevent teams from taking advantage of the gap in the middle of the field in a cover 2.

UT's secondary should be good though. I'm not sure a cover 3 would be needed in pass defense most of the time.

justingroves said:
Most people are confused by his responses
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This will confuse you more, guess which finger I'm holding up? :the_finger:
 
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rbroyles said:
We used a 3-4 in high school in the 60's. This was particularly effective against the option or toss sweep which were very common at the time.
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I was thinking they might consider a 3-4 against Florida's spread option.
 
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The thing about the 3-4 is that we don't have the greatest personnel for it.

We'd basically have Dan Williams, who isn't big enough for a 3-4 DT, and then Marlon Walls and Victor Thomas as DE's.

So what happens to Ben Martin/Chris Walker/Wes Brown in that situation?
 
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bburger991 said:
The thing about the 3-4 is that we don't have the greatest personnel for it.

We'd basically have Dan Williams, who isn't big enough for a 3-4 DT, and then Marlon Walls and Victor Thomas as DE's.

So what happens to Ben Martin/Chris Walker/Wes Brown in that situation?
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I was thinking something like this would provide the most experience and depth:

DE- Ben Martin, Chris Walker
NT- Dan Williams, Victor Thomas
DE- Wes Brown, Marlon Walls

Chris Walker could play some OLB in a 3-4, he was originally recruited as a LB.
 
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This does seem to fit the personnel we have with our need for speed on defense.

We don't have the best match ups at tackle, so one great tackle at the NT works well. That position needs speed, strength, and great field sense to get the ball runner fast. Penetration is a must for whatever stud plays that position.

This sounds like a defense that will rely on speed and gang tackling. They all got to get the ball in a hurry, and that is the type of personnel we have.

In fact, this sounds like an 'orange swarm' defense to me.
 
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I noticed in the practice film Fri., that the DT was lining up over the center a lot. But we were still in a base 4-3.
 
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bdarnell said:
I think he was responding to the guy who said we might run a 3-4 this year.
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That's correct...the thread was gong to down a 3-4 rat hole based on the NT subject. I was merely pointing out that we won't be running a 3-4 just because we're deploying a 'NT'.
 
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VolinDawgland said:
That's correct...the thread was gong to down a 3-4 rat hole based on the NT subject. I was merely pointing out that we won't be running a 3-4 just because we're deploying a 'NT'.
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If you expect a thread to stay perfectly on topic, you are to be disappointed.
 
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At the practice I never saw a 3-4. Only a 4-3 with a tackle either over center or shaded. Honestly it worked great. Can't say if the reason was bad o-line play or great d-line play. Either way Williams was in the backfield more than Crompton and that is a win-win scenario for us.
 
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majic73 said:
The nose tackle is the heart of the Tampa 2 philiosophy . The Middle LB seems to get all of the credit for making this defense spin ...but the middle LB has the flexibility to drop into coverage because of a dominant nose tackle playing 3 technique . The ends rush up field , the outside backsers maintain the perimeter , the run is funnelled to the center of the field . Hard hitting safeties along with the middle backer punish runners and the receiver of short catches . The defense is somewhat designed to give up the underneatch , but the safeties and mid backer are then to punish the player with gang tackling and hard hitting . The net result : bend but don't break . Offenses have to execute alot more plays and take alot more contact to score . The hardhitting causes alot of turnovers ... a trademark of the tampa 2 . Dan williams must be dominant at the nose for any of this to work .
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Sounds logical to me with Rico and EB/DMO back there.
 
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