Defense Next Year

#76
#76
I agree, BB. Reread my post. A hard hitting defense is a feared "D" but not every hit can be bone jarring. Even the cats you named above don't smoke the ball-carrier each and every time.
 
#77
#77
jave36 said:
Again, those are the ten that came to mind, and it has more to do with coaching than ability. Bynum will be a good one too I think. I think people will be amazed how our "bad roster" turns into a good defense with good coaching.
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Again you brought up 10 guys with 3 that barely played. Jordan Williams and Saulsberry would make. 12 for your list. You think 12 guys is enough to play really winning football on defense? And then there's maybe one impact guy who's injury prone out of the guys you named.

I said the LB recruiting is what's lacking but the complete back 7 on defense has been a total fail. Jordan Williams, McCullers, Couch, O'Brien, T.Taylor, and O.Phillips are the guys I like up front. Sentimore won't be here and played when he wanted to(Watch him versus Bama).
 
#78
#78
oskie_score said:
I agree, BB. Reread my post. A hard hitting defense is a feared "D" but not every hit can be bone jarring. Even the cats you named above don't smoke the ball-carrier each and every time.
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They are making strong tackles all game though. And they get some good shots in every game or when they can. I have watched our guys have chances to blow guys up and it never happens.
 
#80
#80
The Breakerboy said:
They are making strong tackles all game though. And they get some good shots in every game or when they can. I have watched our guys have chances to blow guys up and it never happens.
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A majority of the problem is coaching and fixable.

AJ had very good season, finishing with almost identical numbers as Mayo (best / last yr) even though AJ played in a 3-4.
AJ (Soph) finished w/ 138 tackles, 63 solo. 8.5 TFL, 1 QB sack, 8 QBH, 1 PD, 1 Fumble recovery.

Mayo (JR yr) finished w/ 140 tackles, 80 solo, 8.5 TFL, 1.5 QB sacks, 5 QBH, 1 PD, 1 INT (34 return for TD), and 1 FF.
 
#81
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oskie_score said:
A majority of the problem is coaching and fixable.

AJ had very good season, finishing with almost identical numbers as Mayo (best / last yr) even though AJ played in a 3-4.
AJ (Soph) finished w/ 138 tackles, 63 solo. 8.5 TFL, 1 QB sack, 8 QBH, 1 PD, 1 Fumble recovery.

Mayo (JR yr) finished w/ 140 tackles, 80 solo, 8.5 TFL, 1.5 QB sacks, 5 QBH, 1 PD, 1 INT (34 return for TD), and 1 FF.
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Stats don't tell the story here. Mayo will hit you and he's a better athlete. AJ had those tackles because we couldn't get off the field. It's not like he's all over the place punishing people. I like AJ though and feel he should pattern his game after Brandon Spikes. He's got to shed blocks much better for a big LB.
 
#82
#82
You are right. Stats do not tell the story. AJ has done more with less. The leading tackler (second is Moore w/ 86) on a defense that had more holes in it than Swiss cheese unlike Jerod who had the support of Wes Brown, Dan Williams, Chris Walker, Rico McCoy, EB, etc. Big difference in personnel and staff.
 
#83
#83
oskie_score said:
You are right. Stats do not tell the story. AJ has done more with less. The leading tackler (second is Moore w/ 86) on a defense that had more holes in it than Swiss cheese unlike Jerod who had the support of Wes Brown, Dan Williams, Chris Walker, Rico McCoy, EB, etc. Big difference in personnel and staff.
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Hold on let's get this straight the only thing better AJ really had was EB14 and Chavis.

McCullers is better for a LB than Dan Williams.

Chris Walker wasn't really that good of a player(he played hard though)

Wes Brown isn't better than Couch or Sentimore

Rico McCoy had one good game in my books(The SECCG vs. LSU) he was more of a sidekick.

Comparing Mayo and AJ Johnson as players really isn't fair to AJ. He's not near the caliber of player Mayo was. Mayo is a much much better athlete.

Chavis is the one real huge difference for the two. Because while we love EB14 he wasn't just lights out in 2007 his first year. He was hit or miss all year. Playing for Sunseri is the biggest problem here for AJ.
 
#84
#84
Nah man.

Dan Williams is 10Xs better than McCullers.
In Theory, You would hope McCullers was like Mt cody but he has not been anything close.
dan commanded double teams and was a main stay in the backfield. McCullers has never dominated like Dan.

Chris Walker is better than every Defensive end we have on this team. Esp before injury.


**almost forgot Robert Ayers was on mayo's defense too
 
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#85
#85
Mayo had two players at the most helping him out that are better than AJ Johnson's crew(I really think Walker was best his freshman year). Dan is better than McCullers but this scheme is the bigger problem. They were stunting McCullers in games. Just not smart football.

I still think Mayo was a much better player in every aspect of the game. Block shedding should be AJ Johnson's strength as a big strong LB. I've been disappointed with his progression this year. I hope the new coach uses him like Brandon Spikes at Florida. But for that to happen the young talent on the D-line has to step up.
 
#86
#86
there is no doubt Mayo is probably one of the best LBs we have ever had. only a handful better.

AJ is not the superstar he is made out to be.

He has plenty of busts.

I have never seen a less aggressive set of tennessee linebackers in my life.

an all around Stinker by the defensive staff
 
#87
#87
Here's a thought: If we get Patterson, and he brings in the 4-2-5, what would the lineup look like???

Lineup wouldn't change too much, but I think McNeil would be a beast in the 3rd safety spot. Also I think I'd move Curt to DE
 
#88
#88
The Breakerboy said:
Hold on let's get this straight the only thing better AJ really had was EB14 and Chavis.

McCullers is better for a LB than Dan Williams.

Chris Walker wasn't really that good of a player(he played hard though)

Wes Brown isn't better than Couch or Sentimore

Rico McCoy had one good game in my books(The SECCG vs. LSU) he was more of a sidekick.

Comparing Mayo and AJ Johnson as players really isn't fair to AJ. He's not near the caliber of player Mayo was. Mayo is a much much better athlete.

Chavis is the one real huge difference for the two. Because while we love EB14 he wasn't just lights out in 2007 his first year. He was hit or miss all year. Playing for Sunseri is the biggest problem here for AJ.
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You talkin' crazy now, BB. By comparison 2007 "D" was better and deeper at almost every position than 2012---AJ, Couch, & Maggitt (when healthy) the exceptions---on par.

Chris Walker wasn't really that good of a player(he played hard though)
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What you smokin, BB'??

Even as a Freshman EB was better than any starter in our 2012 backfield. Period.

Wes Brown isn't better than Couch or Sentimore
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At this stage...yes, he is.
Rico McCoy had one good game in my books(The SECCG vs. LSU) he was more of a sidekick.
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Sidekick?? :loco: McCoy finished (2007 / Soph yr) second on the team, behind Mayo, and sixth in the SEC w/ 106 tackles. He led or tied the team in tackles 6 of 13 gms. He was voted All-SEC (Coaches & AP). That's more than a "sidekick".

I like Mayo (now and then) but he had better coaching and support personnel/staff and he didn't blowup until his JR/final yr.
Is AJ the athlete that Mayo is? At this stage no, but he has out performed Mayo in their first two yrs. We haven't seen AJ's best. The right (hire) DC and LB coach could change that.
 
#89
#89
I4Jay said:
AJ is not the superstar he is made out to be. He has plenty of busts.
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That's on coaching. AJ showed flashes of brilliance his Frosh yr. earning him the distinction of being voted to five different FR AA teams. That's no fluke. Better coaching = better results.
 
#90
#90
oskie_score said:
That's on coaching. AJ showed flashes of brilliance his Frosh yr. earning him the distinction of being voted to five different FR AA teams. That's no fluke. Better coaching = better results.
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I'm smoking but you think AJ showed flashes of brilliance. Come on with that.
 
#91
#91
I4Jay said:
hopefully we decide to play someone at Free safety who is more of a Hybrid CB/S
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interesting to see if one of the young bigger CBs could compete and excel between the hashes
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Gray Moving to Safety. :salute: :yes:
 
#95
#95
I4Jay said:
Gray Moving to Safety. :salute: :yes:
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I dot doubt your info but I don't know how anyone including Gray could know that right now...it's not like any of the currently employed defensive staff will be here next year
 
#96
#96
Coleman should move since he doesn't get his head around well. I think Gray is a much more natural CB.

In the mold of the CBs lining up on the edge for the Florida Gators. Them getting their stripes their first year(Roberson in particular) has given them the best CB combo in the country.

Would love to see Gray and Orta make some major progress in the spring at CB.
 
#97
#97
There are no bodies for sprng at safety. Randolph out. Mcneil likely out trying to get healthy, more than likely a surgery.

So regardless of coach the scenario is what it is
 
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