Dean says "Lady Vols Need to Be Tougher..."

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I think she struggles against smaller post player especially if they are playing man, she seems to be more timid.

I would like for her to establish to the refs, how she's going to play, she sets the tone with her aggressiveness. I hope that changes, don't worry about fouls, just play smart.

I luv Nunn size...
 
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teacherdean said:
I believe it all starts with the head coach. I think that Holly is a great cheerleader, but, at least within the last five years, she just does not project herself as being a physical tough coach. Someone has to be the bad guy and we just do not have bad guy coaches. I would like to see us step up our physical game, however, that would require a coaching personality change, and I just do not see it as part of our coaching DNA.
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I have never been able to understand this narrative. I've been live in person at games where I've seen Holly totally rip into players and the team as a whole. I've seen her throw a clip board on the floor during an SEC tourney game....I just don't get what she needs to do to appear "tougher" to some fans. I mean damn does she need to fight these girls while the cameras are on when they mess up to appear "tough"???

Do some of you all get special access to practice or the huddles to be able to guage Holly's toughness meter?? Just because you see Holly being POSITIVE towards her players while the cameras are rolling doesn't mean she's not tough.
 
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For instance, she challenged Nared to be a consistent contributor this year, that is instilling toughness, player's expectations.

Its crazy, there is no one model fit all coaching style, Holly knows this team and players, and you can challenge a player without yellin at em, just hold em accountable for their play and how they go about getting better.
 
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teacherdean said:
I believe it all starts with the head coach. I think that Holly is a great cheerleader, but, at least within the last five years, she just does not project herself as being a physical tough coach. Someone has to be the bad guy and we just do not have bad guy coaches. I would like to see us step up our physical game, however, that would require a coaching personality change, and I just do not see it as part of our coaching DNA.
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I've been saying this since last year.
They need an Alpha coach.
 
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BMvol27 said:
The responsibility to develop players ultimately falls on the head coach.
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He is supposed to be responsible for coaching the posts on the team. He has failed imho and he has had plenty of time and rope to get it done better.
 
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LadyVol1908 said:
I have never been able to understand this narrative. I've been live in person at games where I've seen Holly totally rip into players and the team as a whole. I've seen her throw a clip board on the floor during an SEC tourney game....I just don't get what she needs to do to appear "tougher" to some fans. I mean damn does she need to fight these girls while the cameras are on when they mess up to appear "tough"???

Do some of you all get special access to practice or the huddles to be able to guage Holly's toughness meter?? Just because you see Holly being POSITIVE towards her players while the cameras are rolling doesn't mean she's not tough.
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Holly can scream yell, jump up and down and place her hands on her hips all game long... But leadership and toughness in leadership has little to do with theatrics or outbursts. It has everything to do withe your player's respect.

The example that explains it best is...
Last season DD would on occasion drive into traffic and pickup her dribble with no plan in mind.
Then she would heave a bad shot or errant pass, ending in a turnover.
Upon doing this she would look towards the bench for someone who would reprimand her.
She didn't see it.
Not a soul on that bench would give her "what for"... So she would do it over and over again.
Later she would do something else incomprehensible that caused her to be substituted.
As she would walk to the bench, she would scan the bench looking for someone to visually "challenge" her for doing what she just did.
Nothing happened.
No glaring stare,no getting her face or anything....Just a confused DD walking back to the bench. Unscathed for her outburst.

This team has several players who NEED this influence.
And it may not be HW who handles this responsibility.
It doesn't have to be HW, but it definitely has to be someone ON that bench!
 
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Coach Jumper said:
Holly can scream yell, jump up and down and place her hands on her hips all game long... But leadership and toughness in leadership has little to do with theatrics or outbursts. It has everything to do withe your player's respect.

The example that explains it best is...
Last season DD would on occasion drive into traffic and pickup her dribble with no plan in mind.
Then she would heave a bad shot or errant pass, ending in a turnover.
Upon doing this she would look towards the bench for someone who would reprimand her.
She didn't see it.
Not a soul on that bench would give her "what for"... So she would do it over and over again.
Later she would do something else incomprehensible that caused her to be substituted.
As she would walk to the bench, she would scan the bench looking for someone to visually "challenge" her for doing what she just did.
Nothing happened.
No glaring stare,no getting her face or anything....Just a confused DD walking back to the bench. Unscathed for her outburst.

This team has several players who NEED this influence.
And it may not be HW who handles this responsibility.
It doesn't have to be HW, but it definitely has to be someone ON that bench!
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I agree, which is why I think Reeves addition is so important because I think she is that type of get in your face (if thats what it takes coach). Diamond has a hunger that we didn't quite get to see last season that I think we see so far with everything she has done this off-season and against Carson-Newman. She wants to go down as one of the greats and by leading this program back to a Final Four after a 8/9 year absence could in fact do that.
 
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This will definitely challenge their toughness...right out the gates. What are you made of ladies?

For UT, the contest begins an arduous stretch with three games in the span of five days, featuring contests at JMU on Friday, at home vs. Navy on Sunday and at East Tennessee State on Tuesday.
 
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Coach Jumper said:
Holly can scream yell, jump up and down and place her hands on her hips all game long... But leadership and toughness in leadership has little to do with theatrics or outbursts. It has everything to do withe your player's respect...
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You don't think the player's respect Holly?
 
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Over the years I have been impressed whenever Dean spoke to the media regarding the Lady Vols. He talks a good game but apparently it has not translated to the players.

If Holly goes he goes along with her. There's a reason why he's still an assistant after all these years.
 
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mlindsay said:
I agree, which is why I think Reeves addition is so important because I think she is that type of get in your face (if thats what it takes coach). Diamond has a hunger that we didn't quite get to see last season that I think we see so far with everything she has done this off-season and against Carson-Newman. She wants to go down as one of the greats and by leading this program back to a Final Four after a 8/9 year absence could in fact do that.
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She is one of the greats.

I wish you guys could have seen her in her youth. I saw her at 13-14-15. She was amazing. Won everything. . . Now, she is looking for a way to do it in college. One of the very few times I used the phrase 110% was due to a 3rd qtr where she went off for about 18. Not a single basket looked like the others. What was worse, she was equally active on defense. DD is like many athletes I have coached. . .
"If you can't show them the answer to their problem(s)...You can't get their respect.

DD has won championships, but now is now. she naturally, would want to have one in college...other wise she would have chosen to go anywhere. She chose UT. She chose here because we get natty's.

We have one of the top female ballers in the country,,,actually, 11 of them. But they got to be coached.

I see a similar spirit in Shaqui. She has to learn a new concept in guarding at the arc. I watched her "lean her body forward" and try to play an out of reach player. If someone that big leans forward, I am taking her to the paint right then. She needs to study Jaime for this. Jaime's vertical stance and no-wasted motion, movement on defense is fantastic. Jaime uses her feet,. to position her body on defense. She never leans. She plays the offensive-players "lead-foot", and she closes out on opponents if they pick up their dribble. all of this is textbook. Between her and Meme, I saw two players controlling their quarry.



Re DD
Consider:
If DD walks to the bench looking like "she got away with it" and no one gives her the right words,,, She'll keep doing things like that until she finds someone can say the right words. Jollette did this last year, but this is not a one time job...It is a responsibility...Players like DD, sometimes she needs to be lifted, sometimes lowered, and if neither is necessary,,,leave her alone and let do her business. . .


I too hope Reaves is this type of influence.
 
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LVJeff said:
You don't think the player's respect Holly?
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Coach W had the player's respect.
And mine..
But,
respect is initially,
given,
then earned over and over again and again.

Coach Warlick re-acquired their respect in the postseason...
But respect is earned, over and...


We know...
I know..
The players experienced growth this summer.
two that I know of personally looked for my summer influence to work on their game.. And I can see by how Jaime is moving on both offense (She drove into an opposing player) and on defense she has worked hard this summer. (Her lateral movement is beautiful. Butt down, back straight, no up and down motion at the shoulders when moving. perfect technique).

Mercedes ran as fluidly as a 5"10" or 6 footer does. She didn't "lope",
she ran!
I would lay a dollar down that she worked with a running coach.

Now
we get to see if the coaches have worked on their game as well.

Just like each and every one of you in VolNation,
I give my respect to Coach Warlick right from the gitgo. But respect is earned, over and...
 
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Coach Jumper said:
Holly can scream yell, jump up and down and place her hands on her hips all game long... But leadership and toughness in leadership has little to do with theatrics or outbursts. It has everything to do withe your player's respect.

The example that explains it best is...
Last season DD would on occasion drive into traffic and pickup her dribble with no plan in mind.
Then she would heave a bad shot or errant pass, ending in a turnover.
Upon doing this she would look towards the bench for someone who would reprimand her.
She didn't see it.
Not a soul on that bench would give her "what for"... So she would do it over and over again.
Later she would do something else incomprehensible that caused her to be substituted.
As she would walk to the bench, she would scan the bench looking for someone to visually "challenge" her for doing what she just did.
Nothing happened.
No glaring stare,no getting her face or anything....Just a confused DD walking back to the bench. Unscathed for her outburst.

This team has several players who NEED this influence.
And it may not be HW who handles this responsibility.
It doesn't have to be HW, but it definitely has to be someone ON that bench!
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Wow.....did DD tell you all this????
 
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