DD calling them out.

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utgibbs said:
Having said all that, if G Jones were available, I think it's a much different ball game.
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I don't agree at all. I think having Gerald on the field would not have made THAT much of a difference. Don't get me wrong, I like Gerald Jones. He seems like a great kid with a good attitude. However his football career here at UT has been mediocre at best. He has never demonstrated to me that he is the kind of player that takes over a game. I've never seen him as any kind of difference maker on the field.
 
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#29
I would say that if DD had an issue with the passing game, it was that it wasn't vertical enough. We had a potential mismatch there at times, and we didn't exploit it. Also, by having such a wide passing game, we were playing into the hands of one of their defense's main strengths: speed.

IMO, THAT'S what his beef is/was.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I don't agree at all. I think having Gerald on the field would not have made THAT much of a difference. Don't get me wrong, I like Gerald Jones. He seems like a great kid with a good attitude. However his football career here at UT has been mediocre at best. He has never demonstrated to me that he is the kind of player that takes over a game. I've never seen him as any kind of difference maker on the field.
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He seemed like he had turned that corner and then suffered a hand injury. Having a Senior leader on the field that can lead with both performance and vocally with such a youthful group of receivers is very valuable.

This is all moot, though, as he wasn't on the field and our passing game was dysfunctional at best.
 
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VolsFanRJ said:
I don't see how Chaney had anything to do with the team running out of gas and having a mental breakdown. I didn't see anything wrong with his play calling in the 1st or 2nd half.
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He has to get the TE's involved and should not have completely abandoned the run game with Poole like he did. DD has responsibility there too since he made it clear that he wanted to throw more to kee Oregon honest.... but you have to call the game well.

The team is still trying to get its footing. There are no unfixable problems and no reason to panic right now.
 
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And while I'm in a "ranting" mood. What the hell has happened to Luke Stocker?? Explain to me why we are not throwing to a senior all american 6'6" 260 pound TE at LEAST once everytime we are on offense?? This should be a mismatch every time! He should've dominated the UTM game and been much more involved in the Oregon game. I am very frustrated over him, more than anything else so far this season.
 
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#33
This thread is the best diagnosis of what happened Saturday. Yes, they had better athletes and skill players. But not 45 unanswered points better. Our guys did quit -- and CDD is right for calling them out on it.

This is a MAJOR problem going forward. What if we are down by 7 to Florida this Saturday...how will they respond? What if Alabama has all of the momentum at halftime? What if we are 2-6 eight games into the season...will these guys quit on the whole season, or will they have enough in them to fight for those final four games that can make or break the chances at a bowl game?
 
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#34
kennyb010 said:
Gerald Jones while a great player isn't a 35 point difference of a player.
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While I'm not being an apologist... if GJ was in the game perhaps our Offense wouldn't have been so sputtering. GJ is, far and away, our best route runner and probably would have had an impact.
 
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DC Vol said:
While I'm not being an apologist... if GJ was in the game perhaps our Offense wouldn't have been so sputtering. GJ is, far and away, our best route runner and probably would have had an impact.
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Didn't seem to hinder us all that much for 28 minutes. Its a reason we lose by 10, maybe. But not for what we saw. This thread isn't about the X's and O's, as we proved in 28 minutes we were capable of competing @ that level. This is about the roll over that we showed. It was heartbreaking and eye-opening.
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Brave Volunteer said:
I don't agree at all. I think having Gerald on the field would not have made THAT much of a difference. Don't get me wrong, I like Gerald Jones. He seems like a great kid with a good attitude. However his football career here at UT has been mediocre at best. He has never demonstrated to me that he is the kind of player that takes over a game. I've never seen him as any kind of difference maker on the field.
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Being Simms #1 target is important, but

I thought the G-Gun with the way we were running the football Sat night would have been a huge weapon.
 
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#37
I think its good a couple of coaches may be a bit put upon this morning, players too . . . had enough of the love-fest, hand clapping, "hey, its all gonna be ok if" crap . . . when you don't perform to expectations you have to have someone jacking you up a notch, a little well-placed discomfort does away with complacency and helps to keep some potential slackers motivated . . . stick the shoe up deep Coach Dooley . . . its your program, make 'em do it your way
 
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DC Vol said:
The thing that bothers me was Simms comments post-game. Basically the passing game plan was "throw it up and let (hope) your mismatched receivers get it". Our biggest passes were on plays that were blind luck from the QB and fantastic adjustments by the WR.
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That would have been my plan all night long. We had those mismatches. I'm with the poster who said the 5-yard out route might be safe 9 out of 10 times, but those picks get you beat. Reference SECCG 2007.

I know Simms throws high, but we had wide open guys in the center of the field (for obvious reasons; Oregon knew we weren't throwing there). Every time we went up top, even on the bad balls, our WR beat their DBs.
 
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kennyb010 said:
Gerald Jones while a great player isn't a 35 point difference of a player.
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Yeah, but the Wes Rucker stat says it all - more than competitive before the pick-6.

Converting that third down with two minutes left, in hindsight, might have completely changed that game (forget hindsight, we knew it then).

AND, I think the G-Gun weapon would have been immense, and I assume Dooley was saving it for this game. The G-Gun, with our effective running game, would have been worth 7 to 10 points.

Factor that and a few key third down conversions, and suddenly, it's a dogfight instead of a roll over in the fourth.
 
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#40
We can't do what Va.Tech did against James Madison. Seriously, talk about needed an attitude adjustment. WE CAN ABSOLUTELY HANG WITH FLORIDA if the attitude is right. Florida is having some MAJOR issues of it's own right now and if we can find a way to capitalize, then we have a shot. I don't think Florida is anywhere near as good as Oregon so far this year. I believe Florida will finish stronger than Ore, but right now, not so much.
 
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utgibbs said:
Yeah, but the Wes Rucker stat says it all - more than competitive before the pick-6.

Converting that third down with two minutes left, in hindsight, might have completely changed that game (forget hindsight, we knew it then).

AND, I think the G-Gun weapon would have been immense, and I assume Dooley was saving it for this game. The G-Gun, with our effective running game, would have been worth 7 to 10 points.

Factor that and a few key third down conversions, and suddenly, it's a dogfight instead of a roll over in the fourth.
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Not denying that it would change the game Gibbs, but guys will get hurt this year, next year, and the year after. We lose by 10, I'm thinking what your saying. We roll over and decide we aren't going to compete, I can't even listen to a reason as to why. See my point @ all?
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#42
I think the problem has more to do with strength and conditioning than anything else.

We ran out of juice, that's conditioning.
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#43
#43
There was never a need for "mental toughness" against UT Martin. A stronger opponent in the 1st game would of helped this teams mindset in the Oregon game, maybe. Not that it would of changed the outcome but perhaps we avoid getting slapped around in the 2nd half.
 
#44
#44
Couldn't quite get it done, but we put a fight up.
And
Couldn't quite get it done and we quit.
Are 2 FAR different things. Ill take the personel problems that cause the former over the toughness/culture issues that cause the latter.
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#45
#45
Saturday night reminded me of the game at Neyland against Alabama in 2007. The game that ended up being CPF's waterloo. We played with Alabama for a while. Then they got a couple of lightning-quick long scores, and the air went out of the team AND the stadium. The route was on. I'll never forget that night -- Alabama dancing and celebrating like they owned Neyland.
 
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#47
volinaustin said:
I think the problem has more to do with strength and conditioning than anything else.

We ran out of juice, that's conditioning.
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If conditioning causes what you saw, we may as well pack up for the year and fire BWilie. Conditioning is about 20% of mentality. Your conditioning and fatigue being a factor is when you turn to your mental toughness. We obviously got tired. Guess what, we are gonna get tired in exactly 10 out of 10 more ball games. You have to have the toughness to fight through it. AGAIN: if we fight through it and lose by 12 BC of our depth and inexperience, this thread doesn't exist. The depth/fatigue/experience is the argument I'd offer up had we been able to "weather the storm" and fight til the end. We weren't, and we didn't.
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#49
#49
Dooley will do what he needs to do....I think he'll get us back on top in a few years...I just hope our fans can give him time
 
#50
#50
I don't believe that Gerald Jones would have made a 35 point difference folks.
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