DC Candidates?

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VolnJC said:
in other news
The 49ers have met with Chip Kelly about their head coaching job, according to CSN Bay Area.
and
Oregon: 247Sports reports Washington defensive coordinator Pete Kwiatkowski has turned down the Oregon defensive coordinator job.
and
UCLA: Something to keep in mind: Back in October 2013, Jim Mora said, “If the situation was right, I’d consider hiring Lane Kiffin.” The two are friends. Mora now has an offensive coordinator opening.
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Noel Mazzone has not accepted or signed the contract yet to be TAMU OC.
So Mora does not have an OC opening.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
God that's what is worrying me too. Since when has Butch gone outside of his network to hire a coach? The Shoop hire would be a big departure from the norm for him.
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Yep. I now get the feeling that some are going all Shoop a loop here and Hoke is going to be the guy. I think too much familiarity can be a bad thing. Just gotta have some faith that Butch makes the right call.
 
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I don't care that he's been a head coach, Hoke has never been a DC. It's a risky hire, and a bad move imo.
 
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And what the hell happened today? Last I read, Shoop was all but guaranteed to be the man, but now it's back up in the air again? WTF? We need a great hire, and we need it soon. Butch doesn't need a ****storm this close to NSD.
 
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gunner said:
Isnt Butch all about finding the right fit?
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Yeah I get that. But I'll still be skeptical of hiring a DC with no DC experience in a crucial year. Could potentially be an upgrade (should at least be a recruiting upgrade), but worth firing Jancek for?

Shoop is a clear upgrade. The rationale there would be undeniable. We wouldn't be able to tell if Hoke is an upgrade and by how much until October.

It would be a head scratcher and probably not as good of a change as Shoop is all.
 
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Vol knight said:
According to Hubbs, Hoke was the de facto DC when he was the HC at Ball State.
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What exactly does De-Facto DC imply though? Was he in charge of play calling? Game planning? Both? Most Michigan fans give the credit for his defenses at UM to Greg Mattison.
 
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Vol knight said:
According to Hubbs, Hoke was the de facto DC when he was the HC at Ball State.
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Okay, let's say that's true. It was Ball State. Let that sink in. Ball State. Sure, Hoke might be good at recruiting, but what does that matter if he's terrible as a DC? It's not like a position coach where you can at least hope a player overcomes poor coaching through talent. Your DC actually needs to be pretty good at his job, and Hoke has no resume to back him up.
 
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Weezer said:
Okay, let's say that's true. It was Ball State. Let that sink in. Ball State. Sure, Hoke might be good at recruiting, but what does that matter if he's terrible as a DC? It's not like a position coach where you can at least hope a player overcomes poor coaching through talent. Your DC actually needs to be pretty good at his job, and Hoke has no resume to back him up.
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Personally, I trust Butch with whoever he thinks is the right guy. He obviously made the right decision in hiring Debord when a lot of fans were against it.
 
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Vol knight said:
Personally, I trust Butch with whoever he thinks is the right guy. He obviously made the right decision in hiring Debord when a lot of fans were against it.
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That is a weak ass argument meant to garner likes for your post. Butch is capable of screwing up. See the Oklahoma and Florida games this year as proof. Brady Hoke might make a great DC for somebody, but going into next year with the talent we have on this team is no time to break in someone who has never even held the title of Defensive Coordinator.
 
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Weezer said:
That is a weak ass argument meant to garner likes for your post. Butch is capable of screwing up. See the Oklahoma and Florida games this year as proof. Brady Hoke might make a great DC for somebody, but going into next year with the talent we have on this team is no time to break in someone who has never even held the title of Defensive Coordinator.
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Actually, I'm just posting my opinion. I could care less whether someone likes my post or not.
 
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OrangeUaVol2 said:
Look I get he has good total d stats. 3 years at vandy to of those coming when east was down. If he's that great explain why PSU didn't beat NW.
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Same reason we didn't beat Arkansas...they BEAT us (with your boy as the coordinator).
 
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I went to bed thinking Shoop was a done deal and now I wake up to Brady Hoke?

I work at ball state and Hoke is a great guy and ran a high character program, but I don't see the difference between him and Jancek taking this team to the next level.

We still don't know if Jancek was fired based on performance or fit...who is hired as his replacement will provide some insight.
 
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People ate some greasy tacos before bed last night and Hoke started coming out of their butt! Pepto! VN! :pinch:
 
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